Re: What is ELF? was Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-21 Thread Thomas David Rivers
> > What is ELF? What environments and languages for those environments > (other than those already mentioned) support ELF Application Binary > Interfaces? The results of my searches have left me confused. > > Clark Morris Hi Clark, Check out

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-20 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Clark Morris wrote: Would a non-IBM C/C++ be suitable for TPF? Clark Morris z/TPF is an ELF-based environment. You can use a z/TPF-targeted variant of GCC or the Dignus tool chain for z/TPF. I don't believe there are too many (any?) TPF 4.1 shops still around, but at that time

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
Clark Morris wrote: >Does TPF support Ziip/Zaap processors? Does PL1 support TPF? >Would metal C or a non-IBM C/C++ be suitable for TPF? I see Dana Mitchell already replied about ALCS. In short, anything you can do on/with z/OS you should be able to do on/with ALCS. That includes whatever

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-19 Thread Dana Mitchell
We run ALCS here, all applications are written in assembler, but it does support LE: (ALCS) interfaces with the IBM Language Environment® for MVS file medium supported by the MVS Data Facility Product to be written in the C, C++, PL/I, and COBOL languages. ALCS also provides relational

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-19 Thread Clark Morris
ent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 10:09 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Fwd: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs > >Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Reichman Joseph <joseph.reich...@irs.gov> >> Date: April 18, 2018 at 1:06:33 PM EDT >> To: "reichma

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-19 Thread J R
I don't often agree with you, Scott, but when one of the leading mainframe advisers advocates replacing mainframe assembler code with multi-platform java, it's only a matter of time before businesses will try to save money on hardware also. > On Apr 18, 2018, at 20:50, scott Ford

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-19 Thread Scott Chapman
Agreed, that would be interesting: same (significant and reasonable) Java workload on Linux on Intel, Windows on Intel, z/OS, and zLinux. And throw Linux on AWS in there as well. I'm almost at a position where I could do most of those. I think I did some of those tests a few years ago, but I

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
Cheryl Watson wrote: >There are two very big reasons to replace assembler with >Java The second is that Java, for the most part, will >run on zIIPs and reduce the cost of software. Although I'm fond of Java, I'm not bold enough to make that cost forecast, not as a general prediction anyway.

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-18 Thread David Crayford
On 19/04/2018 12:00 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 10:21:20 +0800, David Crayford wrote: On 19/04/2018 5:19 AM, Cheryl Watson wrote: The z13 and z14 can run Java faster than any other processor. Do you mean any other mainframe processor? My observations are that Java runs

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 10:21:20 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >On 19/04/2018 5:19 AM, Cheryl Watson wrote: >> The z13 and z14 can run Java faster than any other processor. > >Do you mean any other mainframe processor? My observations are that Java >runs significantly faster on a x86 Linux system

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-18 Thread David Crayford
On 19/04/2018 5:19 AM, Cheryl Watson wrote: The z13 and z14 can run Java faster than any other processor. Do you mean any other mainframe processor? My observations are that Java runs significantly faster on a x86 Linux system compared to our z13s running z/OS with a zIIP. It's not just Java

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-18 Thread scott Ford
n > Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 10:09 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Fwd: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Reichman Joseph <joseph.reich...@irs.gov> > > Date: April 18, 2018 at

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-18 Thread Cheryl Watson
nframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 10:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Fwd: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs Begin forwarded message: > From: Reichman Joseph <joseph.reich...@irs.gov> > Date: April 1

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
istserv.ua.edu Subject: Fwd: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs Begin forwarded message: > From: Reichman Joseph <joseph.reich...@irs.gov> > Date: April 18, 2018 at 1:06:33 PM EDT > To: "reichman...@gmail.com" <reichman...@gmail.com> > Subject: FW: IRS Assemb

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-18 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike LaMartina Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs I am surprised that IRS wants to replace Assembler with Java. I can't think of a bigger

Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-18 Thread Mike LaMartina
Subject: Fwd: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs Begin forwarded message: > From: Reichman Joseph <joseph.reich...@irs.gov> > Date: April 18, 2018 at 1:06:33 PM EDT > To: "reichman...@gmail.com" <reichman...@gmail.com> > Subject: FW: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jo

Fwd: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

2018-04-18 Thread Joseph Reichman
Begin forwarded message: > From: Reichman Joseph <joseph.reich...@irs.gov> > Date: April 18, 2018 at 1:06:33 PM EDT > To: "reichman...@gmail.com" <reichman...@gmail.com> > Subject: FW: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs > > > > > From: Reichm