Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-05 Thread Staller, Allan
It was my impression that SECINT PTFs were shipped in the normal maintenance stream with the description 'INTEGRITY PROBLEM' as the only description (and of course the SUPed apar). I am not aware if SECINT PTFS go through the RSU process. If they do not, this would be an argument for SMP apply

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-04 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg > > At 09:30 -0400 on 08/03/2014, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about > Re: LE APAR PM99349: > > >In <2830304844335286.wa.ibmmaintpg.com...@listserv.ua.edu>, on &g

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-04 Thread Timothy Sipples
John Gilmore observed: >I bought yesterday a roundtrip rail ticket, and in order to do so I >was required to produce "picture ID". Yes, and that's an important facet of price discrimination, a practice most IBM-MAIN readers' employers employ. It's "security," but it's mostly revenue security for t

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-03 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:30 -0400 on 08/03/2014, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re: LE APAR PM99349: In <2830304844335286.wa.ibmmaintpg.com...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 08/03/2014 at 06:52 AM, Shane Ginnane said: Security through obfuscation has never worked. Might appear to for a while, As long

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-03 Thread Mike Schwab
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote: > Then of course we have the inane stupidity in force at USA airports. 'Bruce > Schneier regales us about that regularly - nuff said. > > Shane ... There is a photo meme going around. A TSA officer putting on a latex glove with text above: "

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-03 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 09:52:32 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: >I bought yesterday a roundtrip rail ticket, and in order to do so I >was required to produce "picture ID". When in Boston I was required to provide similar to buy a bottle of a rather nice Islay scotch. The "senior" staff member who replace

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-03 Thread John Gilmore
My previous post did not, it would seem, sufficiently emphasize that security problems are still perceived to be, in large measure, public-relations ones. I bought yesterday a roundtrip rail ticket, and in order to do so I was required to produce "picture ID". Now, just as every unmasked spy prov

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <2830304844335286.wa.ibmmaintpg.com...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 08/03/2014 at 06:52 AM, Shane Ginnane said: >Security through obfuscation has never worked. >Might appear to for a while, As long as it works long enough to develop a fix and get it installed, it's worth doing. -- Shmuel (

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <53de1890.6020...@us.ibm.com>, on 08/03/2014 at 07:10 AM, John Eells said: >Shmuel, I'm not following you. Do you think that ETR text is somehow > accessible to users of the portal (and if so why do you think >that)? You wrote "All information about security and integrity problems is avai

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-03 Thread John Gilmore
Shane's diagnosis is on the mark, but he is too sanguine. Security is an area in which every CIO and the CEO to who he or she reports feel a need to be perceived to be doing something, even a lot of somethings; but few of them have any clear notion of what to do, how to do it, or how helpful doing

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-03 Thread John Eells
Shane Ginnane wrote: Security through obfuscation has never worked. Might appear to for a while, but once the lid-less eye focuses on you ... Surely heartbleed should have shaken/woken everyone up. That's not exactly the only leg of the stool. Nonetheless, a number of customers tell us they t

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-03 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 07:10:08 -0400, John Eells wrote: >We provide CVSS scorings and APAR/PTF information in the portal, not >direct information about the vulnerabilities themselves or ETR text. Security through obfuscation has never worked. Might appear to for a while, but once the lid-less eye fo

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-03 Thread John Eells
Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: Does the creator of a security ETR have the option to exclude critical details from the security portal? Shmuel, I'm not following you. Do you think that ETR text is somehow accessible to users of the portal (and if so why do you think that)? We provide CVSS

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <53dbaa60.90...@us.ibm.com>, on 08/01/2014 at 10:55 AM, John Eells said: >All information about security and integrity problems is available >only to customers who agree to keep it confidential, and available >only through the security portal. Does the creator of a security ETR have the op

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-01 Thread John Eells
(Resending to the list server, as I responded via NNTP accidentally. Sorry for the double post!) All information about security and integrity problems is available only to customers who agree to keep it confidential, and available only through the security portal. We'd love to have you sign u

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-01 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dennis Trojak > > Yes it is a security/integrity APAR. If you subscribe to the Security Portal > you can review it. > Description: This issue may pertain to users of Language Environment for z/OS > with FMID HLE7770,

Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-01 Thread Dennis Trojak
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: LE APAR PM99349 Hi, All, One newly-available PTF for LE, UI18450, fixes APAR PM99349, but a search for PM99349 on IBMLink fails with a "not found" error. Am I to

LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-01 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All, One newly-available PTF for LE, UI18450, fixes APAR PM99349, but a search for PM99349 on IBMLink fails with a "not found" error. Am I to "ass.u.me" that it's a security / integrity APAR and just apply the PTF? TIA, -jc-