In 7ejoma1d3tjintk6at60q4i723p3127...@4ax.com, on 06/01/2015
at 09:20 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said:
On 31 May 2015 10:05:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
In 0912959236903597.wa.wwwdieuyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
05/28/2015
at 04:22 AM, IBMZOS
On 31 May 2015 10:05:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
In 0912959236903597.wa.wwwdieuyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
05/28/2015
at 04:22 AM, IBMZOS
00af65f10fb1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
thought Z was at the top of technology.
Z is missing things that IBM developeds
In 5540078572993283.wa.wwwdieuyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
05/28/2015
at 07:31 AM, IBMZOS
00af65f10fb1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
Sysplex do the job,
You can switch to a standby server, but you can't migrate an address
space to another LPAR or CEC. Not at all equivalent to what
In 0912959236903597.wa.wwwdieuyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
05/28/2015
at 04:22 AM, IBMZOS
00af65f10fb1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
thought Z was at the top of technology.
Z is missing things that IBM developeds on S/360 and S/370. The
cobbler's son is barefoot.
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Many thank's all with the answers received. We will continue to invest on high
availability on Parallel sysplex. Thank's
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Yes Rob, we are base sysplex and GDPS was proposed to do things in seconds
without Parallel sysplex. that we understand is not possible. Thank's
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pinnc...@rochester.rr.com (Thomas Conley) wrote:
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IBM just announced multi-target PPRC, so you can do multiple copies to
different places. GDPS is working to add the support for it.
snip
GDPS added Enhanced HyperSwap support for MT-PPRC at the end of March
with their 3.12 release. I
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Subject: Re: LPAR MOBILITY
Interesting, never thought someone would consider GDPS on anything but
parallel sysplex. What would be the point? I could buy a Ferrari and
remove the wheels.. But it wouldn't be much fun...and would be a very
expensive chair.
Seems more like
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Subject: Re: LPAR MOBILITY
Interesting, never thought someone would consider GDPS on anything but parallel
sysplex. What would be the point? I could buy a Ferrari and remove the
wheels.. But it wouldn't be much fun...and would be a very expensive chair.
Seems more like
Not quite right.
Geographically Dispersed Parallel Sysplex does the trick.
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On 5/28/2015 11:17 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2015 13:20:53 +, Rob Schramm wrote:
Interesting, never thought someone would consider GDPS on anything but
parallel sysplex.
Indeed. That's why it is called Graphically Dispersed Parallel Sysplex.
GDPS has been known to be
On 5/28/2015 9:20 PM, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
I'm sure that GDPS can do more than what we use it for. We mirror and recover
parallel sysplexes as well between data centers. Even if I had only monoplexes
mission critical to my business, I would still use DASD mirroring (XRC or
whatever) and
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But GDPS is not just
I'm am confused about one thing.
IBM has created the Live Partition Mobility on system I, with the
virtualization layer.
Why this doesn't exit on Z machines, with an integrated flavor of Z/VM for
example ?
Does IBM has intent to have such feature one day ?
I think this is nearly a
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I'm am confused about one thing.
IBM has created the Live Partition Mobility on system I, with the
virtualization layer.
Why this doesn't
impact, it becomes hard
to come up with a case where you could actually use it.
_Jan
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, 2015 5:51 AM
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Sorry. i do not know all the solutions, but know what the GDPS and
Hyperswap do. I'm confused to invest many hard work on Parallel Sysplex if
one day, i can do LPM on Z with one clic. I think all the mainframe community
consider the environment before printing this e-mail
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Subject: Re: LPAR MOBILITY
Sorry but GDPS do not do this in seconds
Thank's for the reply. No GDPS do not cover this specific area; it automate the
IPL stop end start process, in approximatively 30 mn.
With LPM on I series, the mobility of partition is in seconds !!! We use it on
planned outages and it work very well.
Z/OS is not the future ?
On Thu, 28 May 2015 04:22:01 -0500, IBMZOS www_d...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm am confused about one thing.
IBM has created the Live Partition Mobility on system I, with the
virtualization layer.
Why this doesn't exit on Z machines, with an integrated flavor of Z/VM for
example ?
Does IBM has
Sorry. i do not know all the solutions, but know what the GDPS and Hyperswap
do. I'm confused to invest many hard work on Parallel Sysplex if one day, i can
do LPM on Z with one clic. I think all the mainframe community would
appreciate...
As you said Rob. Interesting, since the GDPS solution was suggested by an IBM
representative. :)
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Sorry but GDPS do not do this in seconds. it automate start / stop with
approximatively 30 mn of interruption and do dasd swap in seconds (base swap of
dasd). So the minimum interrupt time is 30mn-1hour when LPM do this **in
seconds**.
Sysplex do the job, but only in full parallel sysplex,
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Thank's for the reply. No GDPS do not cover this specific area; it automate the
IPL stop end start process, in approximatively 30 mn.
With LPM on I series, the mobility of partition
Why ask the question if you already think you know what the answer is?
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Sorry but GDPS do not do
Thank's Jan for detailed reply. Yes for the impact of LPM. We use it for
planned outages, and work fine. I cannot do with my sysplex, because your reply
is applicable to a Parallel sysplex, which is a HIGH step forward. From all the
reply, i understand that Parallel Syplex is really the
z/VM V6.2 release made available the Single System Image feature and Live
Guest Relocation, which is the ability for a Linux guest to be moved from one
z/VM system to another within the SSI cluster.
IBM is chasing smoke on this.
On the way back from Boston Share, I dropped in to the VMWORLD
Interesting, never thought someone would consider GDPS on anything but
parallel sysplex. What would be the point? I could buy a Ferrari and
remove the wheels.. But it wouldn't be much fun...and would be a very
expensive chair.
Seems more like the person is looking for parallel sysplex /
Yes that's right, and this imply a specific design of data infratructure, aka
two copies of data, software replicated. Many thank's.
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Many thank's Lizette for your reply. I'm happy to see that the Parallel Sysplex
is the solution we can continue to invest on.
When IBM announce a 'Star Trek' solution we investigate on it. Don't hold it
against me just to be curious what others do and what the future can Be.
Thank's again.
On Thu, 28 May 2015 13:20:53 +, Rob Schramm wrote:
Interesting, never thought someone would consider GDPS on anything but
parallel sysplex.
Indeed. That's why it is called Graphically Dispersed Parallel Sysplex.
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