Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-29 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Good idea. Now, how to train my fingers to know what my head knows? Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike Sent: 29 September 2022 21:48 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Minor disaster I would recommend that the OP always

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-29 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I would recommend that the OP always use the '/' command instead of 'S'. Given that S and D are co-located on the keyboard and / is far away. On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 10:49 PM Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > The issue of how to deal with PDSE member generations is one that I > struggled with when develop

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-29 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
The issue of how to deal with PDSE member generations is one that I struggled with when developing PDSEGEN. The solution that I came up with was to allow individual generations to be deleted, which required writing a routine to do so as the native TSO DELETE and ISPF Delete options would only delet

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Minor disaster (I'll cross-post this Reply to IBM-MAIN and ISPF-L) On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 00:23:30 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote: >Wait, I missed the part where it was completely deleted. Sorry about that. I >thought it was just overwritten.

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(I'll cross-post this Reply to IBM-MAIN and ISPF-L) On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 00:23:30 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote: >Wait, I missed the part where it was completely deleted. Sorry about that. I >thought it was just overwritten. > "completely deleted" vs. "just overwritten" seems to be a distinction

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 06:14:31 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: >Seems you have a HSM copy. What I do is recover/restore the HSM copy to a new >name and then just copy the member from recovered/restored data set to the >real data set. > PITA in complexity. Rather, HSM should support revert t

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-29 Thread Steve Smith
+1 For FM's PDSE Workbench. Too bad FM in general has the horrible policy of not only using 47 different keylists, but insisting on [re-]activating them no matter how many times the user turns them off. That makes using FM very frustrating if you dare to want to control your own PF key settings.

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-29 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Seems you have a HSM copy. What I do is recover/restore the HSM copy to a new name and then just copy the member from recovered/restored data set to the real data set. -- John G. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive a

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Brian Westerman
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Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Brian Westerman
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Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Peter Van Dyke
FYI, IBM File Manager provides the PDSE Workbench utility which supports working directly with any member generation in a PDSE V2. For example, you can browse/view previous member generations, compare member generations and recover a member from an earlier generation. This can all be done from a m

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 23:16:25 +0100, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote: >I have sympathy with your scepticism. >You can recover previous generations. But deleting a member deletes all >generations. >I think IBM have missed a trick here. Would not have been beyond the wit of >man to have an UNDELETE

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: 28 September 2022 18:13 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Minor disaster On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 08:14, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > If these are PDSE's with generations then the question is what release > of z/OS are you running? If 2

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 08:14, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > If these are PDSE's with generations then the question is what release of > z/OS are you running? If 2.4 then the ISPF delete member selections will > delete all generations along with the base member. If 2.3 or earlier then > only the base

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Allan Staller
bject: Re: Minor disaster [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don't click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] In general PDS and StarrTool can recovery a dele

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Ituriel do Neto
I don't know if it is a valid contribution since I don't remember how to do it anymore, but in the past I have recovered deleted members with DITTO. Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em quarta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2022 13:42:04 BRT, Michael Babcock escre

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Michael Babcock
Do you have an HSM backup of the PDSE? Or a volume backup? Otherwise I don’t know. BTW, I always have prompting turned on so that if I accidentally hit D, I get a prompt verifying I really want to delete it. On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 7:02 AM Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw < 032fff1be9b4-dmarc-requ...

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
of Allan Staller [0387911dea17-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 10:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Minor disaster Classification: Confidential The PDS command from the CBTTAPE should be able to recover this member. Or the commercial version

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Allan Staller
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Minor disaster [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don't click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] Aaargghhh! I just pressed &qu

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Itschak, You are right. I am a zPDT client. However, in this case I was working on a client's machine ☹. Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: 28 September 2022 13:17 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Minor disaste

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
ssimistic - for they took a backup'. Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw https://rsclweb.com ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.’ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: 28 September 2022 13:14 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Su

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Itschak Mugzach
If you are a zPDT client, and I think you are, you can restore the member from backup using pdsUtil. ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux and IBM I **| * *|* *Email**: i_mugz...@

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
nie Dymoke-Bradshaw Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 7:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Minor disaster Aaargghhh! I just pressed "D" next to a PDSe member I was editing, instead of "S". I have generations set up for this PDSe, but I cannot see how to get to the mem

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Jake Anderson
May be CBT File 036 fixpds can help ? On Wed, Sep 28, 2022, 4:06 PM Carmen Vitullo wrote: > ouch that sucks, I know if it was a PDS there are tools to get the > member back, it's not actually gone until you compress, or write over it > IIRC? > > I wonder if the same tools can help, I'd be intere

Re: Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Carmen Vitullo
ouch that sucks, I know if it was a PDS there are tools to get the member back, it's not actually gone until you compress, or write over it IIRC? I wonder if the same tools can help, I'd be interested also how to restore a member from a PDSE that's GDG like Carmen On 9/28/2022 7:00 AM, Lenn

Minor disaster

2022-09-28 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Aaargghhh! I just pressed "D" next to a PDSe member I was editing, instead of "S". I have generations set up for this PDSe, but I cannot see how to get to the member I just accidentally deleted. Is there a way to recover the member? Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw https://r