Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-24 Thread White, Andy
Thanks to those that replied... Andy You may, if the source changed after the last backup. -teD The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is

Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-20 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD In addition to the other reasons cited, one of my arguments was that I wasn't 100.00% sure that the app team hasn't squirreled something away in a non-production storage group

Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-20 Thread Scott Chapman
In addition to the other reasons cited, one of my arguments was that I wasn't 100.00% sure that the app team hasn't squirreled something away in a non-production storage group that really was needed for either running or fixing or recovering production. And the chance for human error sneaking

Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
You may, if the source changed after the last backup. -teD   Original Message   From: van der Grijn, Bart (B) Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 11:24 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD Andy, we mirror our production

Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-19 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of van der Grijn, Bart (B) Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD Andy, we mirror our production to a recovery site using Global Mirror. We do back up the NonProd data and send

Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-19 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of White, Andy Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mirror/back up your Development DASD Hi people - For companies that mirror their mainframe DASD via XRC

Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-19 Thread John McKown
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM < kees.verno...@klm.com> wrote: > Backup Dasd via your laptop to an USB stick? Your company differs a lot > from mine. > ​Well, it is one way to make the mainframe security administrator have a heart attack. Or hire a "wetworks" team

Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-19 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Backup Dasd via your laptop to an USB stick? Your company differs a lot from mine. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jack J. Woehr Sent: 19 May, 2016 16:14 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mirror/back up

Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-19 Thread Ambros, Thomas
zEnterprise Operating Systems zEnterprise Systems Management 518-436-6433 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of White, Andy Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:03 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-19 Thread Bigendian Smalls
In general .. Mirroring is a recovery technology for infrastructure - should you lose hardware / geographic incident, etc. - If you have any data corruption (intentional or otherwise) - Mirroring just makes it worse.. If you’re serious about having a development environment (Most shops are

Re: Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-19 Thread Jack J. Woehr
White, Andy wrote: Currently, we mirror all production but don't mirror the development DASD we back most via VTS but I am pushing or trying that we back up all DASD. At this point in the Moore curve, can't you just stick a USB in your laptop and write a script to back it up? -- Jack J.

Mirror/back up your Development DASD

2016-05-19 Thread White, Andy
Hi people - For companies that mirror their mainframe DASD via XRC, SRDF, how many of them back up the development DASD? Currently, we mirror all production but don't mirror the development DASD we back most via VTS but I am pushing or trying that we back up all DASD. My thoughts about this