In 12eafe94-906a-4d41-99a7-574060371...@austin.utexas.edu, on
08/07/2013
at 09:22 PM, Pew, Curtis G curtis@austin.utexas.edu said:
I don't have strong feelings about any particular architecture,
but I do think we all have a compelling interest that the number
of common, commercially
In 4781768291563977.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/07/2013
at 04:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
And I had been misled by chatter I had heard, possibly about the
ECLipz endeavor, the rebuttal of which I failed to notice, to
misbelieve the z has Power at its
shmuel+...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
The wiki chip articles since at least Z196 have been about the
entire processor complex rather than about the chips themselves. I
wish that some of the IBM chip designers would be willing to take on
the task of editing those articles.
however, claim is that at least half of the z196 per processor improvement
over z10 was introduction of out-of-order execution, branch prediction,
speculative executive
Those features are important to systems performance, but I submit that most of
the improvement was probably due to the
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTQzMDM
Kind of interesting. Hope people don't mind the fact that it is not about
the z.
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On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:55:07 -0500, John McKown wrote:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTQzMDM
Kind of interesting. Hope people don't mind the fact that it is not about
the z.
Hmmm. Vaguely reminiscent of Amdahl, Fujitsu, Power Computing, and
DayStar.
But they probably won't
Especially z/OS won't run on POWER. AIX, Linux, and i/OS (the IBM
version, not Apple's!) are a possibility. But I doubt that IBM will license
the i/OS system either.
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:55:07 -0500, John McKown wrote:
Especially z/OS won't run on POWER
It won't run natively but could certainly run under an emulator.
Bob Shannon
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OK. Legally licensed? I know of only two emulators for z/Architecture. One
is Hercules/390. The other is IBM's which is used on the zPDT machine (this
is a guess on my part). I guess that IBM could license the zPDT, ported to
POWER (AIX or Linux?). But I really doubt that they will. Futher
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTQzMDM
Kind of interesting. Hope people don't mind the fact that it is not about
the z.
Folklore is that Apple moved to Intel because IBM decided to focus on
servers and weren't keeping up
OK. Legally licensed?
Processor speed increases have slowed and emphasis is being placed on more
concurrent processes. This raises the possibility of emulating zArchitecture
on Power and eliminating z-specific hardware, something that's been speculated
about for years. With the hardware
Too true. Looks more like an Intel vs. ARM future. I'm not enough of a
computer scientist to know which is better. I stopped learning the Intel
architecture in the i568 time frame. I did _not_ like it. I have looked a
bit at ARM and I would likely have been a RISC bigot back in the day.
On Wed,
On Aug 7, 2013, at 4:08 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
Too true. Looks more like an Intel vs. ARM future. I'm not enough of a
computer scientist to know which is better. I stopped learning the Intel
architecture in the i568 time frame. I did _not_ like it. I have looked a
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:14:06 +, Bob Shannon wrote:
Especially z/OS won't run on POWER
It won't run natively but could certainly run under an emulator.
OK. And I had been misled by chatter I had heard, possibly about
the ECLipz endeavor, the rebuttal of which I failed to notice, to
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