Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-27 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 03:27:06PM -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: [...] This is Bobby Tables all over again: http://xkcd.com/327/ It relies on a bash extension which, however useful, violates POSIX by restricting the value space of environment variables. The Wikipedia example, slightly

Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-26 Thread Scott Ford
] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 5:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT - Bash Vunerability On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:47:29 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: While we're being OT here, can anyone explain this to me in practical terms? Sally has a basic

Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-26 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 05:15:13PM -0700, Charles Mills wrote: Thanks. I'm reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shellshock_(software_bug) and I sort of get it. I guess the worry is that the effects are so unknown. There is a very nice description by Michal Zalewski, here:

Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-26 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 08:19:39PM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: [...] process, by using declare -F. = (627 1): declare -F Ooops, should be declare -f. Sorry. declare -f fingerics declare -f insertblade declare -f prjstart declare -f setcvs declare -f subshell declare -F dumped me

Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 20:19:39 +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 05:15:13PM -0700, Charles Mills wrote: Thanks. I'm reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shellshock_(software_bug) and I sort of get it. I guess the worry is that the effects are so unknown. There is a very nice

OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
I just saw this. Might be old news to some, but new to me. http://tinyurl.com/k5xevos In Heartbleed's wake, Bash flaw puts Linux, Mac OS users at risk by Brandan Blevins, News Writer Researchers say a 20-year-old vulnerability uncovered in the Bash shell, found in Unix-based operating

Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-25 Thread John McKown
Fairly new, as in just today. There are patches for SUSE and Redhat Linux on z. I have applied the equivalent on my RedHat Fedora 20 on Intel. I need to patch the BASH port on the CBTtape, but that is a future (hopefully near future) event. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Lizette Koehler

Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-25 Thread John Gilmore
It appeared several days ago in this week's US-CERT new-vulnerabilities summary. Subscriptions to this summary are free, and those who have security responsibilities should certainly be email subscribers. If you wait to read about such problems you risk being without answers to management

Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 12:18:53 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: It appeared several days ago in this week's US-CERT new-vulnerabilities summary. Subscriptions to this summary are free, and those who have security responsibilities should certainly be email subscribers. If you wait to read about such

Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-25 Thread John Gilmore
Substantive concern about exploits is minimal in many z/OS shops; concern about looking bad to management is not. I chose what I judged would be the more persuasive argument for keeping oneself informed. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-25 Thread Charles Mills
taste you could reply privately. Thanks, Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT - Bash Vunerability Fairly new

Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:47:29 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: While we're being OT here, can anyone explain this to me in practical terms? Sally has a basic everyday Mac running unpatched OS X. It is connected to the Internet for Web browsing and e-mail, but she does not operate a Web server.

Re: OT - Bash Vunerability

2014-09-25 Thread Charles Mills
-2014-7169. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 5:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT - Bash Vunerability On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:47:29 -0700, Charles