Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-08 Thread Ron hawkins
frame on ESCON would cause retransmission of all the frames in an IO. I need to find Dr Pat's old DIB paper. Ron -Original Message- From: ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 4:17 PM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: [IBM-MAIN] [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD

Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-08 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
, 2018 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC ESCON is synchronous, where after sending a buffer, it would wait for acknowledgement before sending the next buffer. FICON is async, where it sends buffer after buffer without waiting

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-08 Thread Ron hawkins
Mike, Then how did ESCON use data buffers for flow control? Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC ESCON

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-08 Thread Mike Schwab
> Ron > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > R.S. > Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:11 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC > > 1. PPRC-XD and PPRC are very di

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-08 Thread Ron hawkins
ERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC 1. PPRC-XD and PPRC are very different animals. PPRC-XD is capable to work on any distance, while PPRC is limited by speed of light which is not planned to change. 2. ESCON vs FICON did huge difference not only in speed (bit

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-08 Thread R.S.
frame Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday 07-Jun-2018 23:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC Data consistency was one of two reasons we cho

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday 07-Jun-2018 23:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC Data consistency was one of two reasons we chose circa 2000 to use XRC rather than PP

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
ucture -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Thursday 07-Jun-2018 21:53 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC We have always used TDMF as it's a vendor neutral so

Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Ron hawkins
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC Data consistency was one of two reasons we chose circa 2000 to use XRC rather than PPRC. I know the technology has changed, and I've been *told* that PPRC is now capable of maintaining consistency, but I have not seen it in action

Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 4:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC W dniu 2018-06-06 o 18:18

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
o: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 06/07/2018 01:37 AM > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > Vignesh, > > Only XRC (Global whatever for z/OS) supports migration between vendors, and > go home only works between Hitach

Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2018-06-06 o 18:18, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh pisze: Hello All, Please could you point me to any doc explaining the differences between the 2. Any important, obscure, techdocs or KB page or some such as well.. ? Fundamental difference is data consistency. PPRC-XD is *inconsistent* copy

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Ron hawkins
for migration like FDR/PAS and TDMF. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 9:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC Thanks Lizette. How about using them

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-06 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday 07-Jun-2018 01:20 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC Have you done any internet searches with the phrase PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC I found many hits doing that. Otherwise - could provide more detail of what type

Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
Have you done any internet searches with the phrase PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC I found many hits doing that. Otherwise - could provide more detail of what type of information you are looking for. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On

PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-06 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hello All, Please could you point me to any doc explaining the differences between the 2. Any important, obscure, techdocs or KB page or some such as well.. ? - Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure MARKSANDSPENCER.COM Unless otherwise stated above: Marks and