Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <874b151289704e46a874bf2ae6fdd8d1310d6...@kl126r4b.cs.ad.klmcorp.net>, on 12/23/2015 at 03:18 PM, "Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM" said: >I was not asking for all the possibilities on all possible platforms, >I was trying to ensure that it was readable and

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 12/22/2015 at 11:59 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said: >Via Email just go UTF-8. The same for Web Pages or just use the >Unicode codepoint () or . Using for µ is appropriate for web pages, but not for text in e-mail. HTML in

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <5679d5c0.3090...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 12/22/2015 at 11:59 PM, "R.S." said: >It is kind for recipients to use "lowest common denominator" The least common denominator is ASCII, but as long as you have the right MIME header fields pretty much everybody

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 12/22/2015 at 11:54 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said: >On a Mac it is Option-m. On a PC there are multiple keyboard layouts. On OS/2 with the US International layout, Right-Alt-M gets µ. Depending on the layout R.S. is using, it

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
(Seymour J.) Sent: 23 December, 2015 16:16 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing In <p06240405d29fd8ea06d7@[192.168.1.242]>, on 12/22/2015 at 11:54 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" <hal9...@panix.com> said: >On a Mac

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-12-22 o 21:13, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On 2015-12-22 11:15, R.S. wrote: It would be better to define usec at the first occurence. Or use full name: 'microsecond'. BTW: 'us' seems to be more cryptic, while it's more correct than usec. what about "μs" That's the best, the most

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread Mike Schwab
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 2:39 PM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2015-12-22 o 21:13, Paul Gilmartin pisze: >> >> On 2015-12-22 11:15, R.S. wrote: >>> >>> It would be better to define usec at the first occurence. >>> Or use full name: 'microsecond'. >>> BTW: 'us' seems to be

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-12-22 o 21:58, Mike Schwab pisze: UTF-8 includes them all. But UTF-EBCDIC is only suggested transformations, not storage. Compatibility. It is kind for recipients to use "lowest common denominator" instead of "my standard is the best one". I have no problems with viewing mu letter

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-12-22 11:15, R.S. wrote: > It would be better to define usec at the first occurence. > Or use full name: 'microsecond'. > BTW: 'us' seems to be more cryptic, while it's more correct than usec. > what about "μs" -- gil

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 23:59 +0100 on 12/22/2015, R.S. wrote about Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing: I have no problems with viewing mu letter (it's much harder to type it), but I can imagine others still may have ones. HARD TO TYPE? On a Mac it is Option-m. On a Windows machine

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 03:58 -0600 on 12/22/2015, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote about Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing: Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: Yes, u as a replacement of the greek letter mu, used to indicate the micro prefix, where the greek letter cannot be used. Many thanks. Much

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: >Yes, u as a replacement of the greek letter mu, used to indicate the micro >prefix, where the greek letter cannot be used. Many thanks. Much appreciated. I agree it can be somewhat troublesome to send Greek and Russian (or Japanese) characters via e-mail

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
versions. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: 22 December, 2015 10:59 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: >One crucial parameter: at what distance are the CFs? Distance is indeed important. >... 5 usecs ... 150 usecs ... First time I see 'usecs' here [1] on IBM-MAIM. After looking in Wikipedia, I want to know - is this microseconds? ( SI unit of time equal to

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: 22 December, 2015 8:55 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing We're not going to BLANKET recommend System-Managed Duplexing for high-volume, high stringency structures such as LOCK1. SCA has little traffic

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: >One crucial parameter: at what distance are the CFs? Distance is indeed important. >... 5 usecs ... 150 usecs ... First time I see 'usecs' here [1] on IBM-MAIM.

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <2623328940257590.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/22/2015 at 03:15 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >First time I see 'usecs' here [1] on IBM-MAIM. I've never seen usec or Ásec[1] on IBM-MAIM. I have, however, seen them on IBM-MAIN.

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-21 Thread Skip Robinson
I'm talking from experience. The two hours-long CEC failures we had--most recently in the fall of 2014--took down all CICS and DB2 applications as well as three ICFs on the box that failed. The secondary 'penalty' box stayed up and kept live copies of structures so that after hardware repair,

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-21 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing I'm talking from experience. The two hours-long CEC failures we had--most recently in the fall of 2014--took down all CICS and DB2 applications as well as three ICFs on the box that failed. The secondary 'penalty' box

Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing

2015-12-21 Thread Martin Packer
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