Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-27 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Only ca. 150 pages on paper (excerpts from CEEDUMP and SYSUDUMP, and compile listings, of course), so that the students can write notes on it, the rest of the dumps is in the machine, in PDF format (landscape shape). The students read them on the screen, works pretty well, or they go to SYSVIEW

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-27 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
of course we did the same thing (tons of paper) some 25 years ago. Am 27.11.2014 10:43, schrieb Bernd Oppolzer: Only ca. 150 pages on paper (excerpts from CEEDUMP and SYSUDUMP, and compile listings, of course), so that the students can write notes on it, the rest of the dumps is in the

Paper (was Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP)

2014-11-27 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Bernd Oppolzer wrote: of course we did the same thing (tons of paper) some 25 years ago. Years ago I and my (mostly ex) colleagues sifted through dump lists, syslog, job printouts, timesheets, RACF logs (RACFRW - four lines PER event!), schedules of jobs, etc. We have lots of trolleys, racks,

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
LE runtime is TERMTHDACT(UADUMP,,96) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Greg Shirey
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP There is - it is named SSRANGE for the Enterprise COBOL compilers, at least up through 4.2. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Ten Eyck wrote: LE runtime is TERMTHDACT(UADUMP,,96) Ok. I will bite. I see in LE book, this: Under non-CICS, if the appropriate DD statement is used, you will get a system dump of your user address space. A$$suming you're not running CICS, did you used that DD statement? (Even after

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
] On Behalf Of Peter Ten Eyck Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP LE runtime is TERMTHDACT(UADUMP,,96) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote: Also these share presentations may be helpful http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/lang_environment/conference/share.html Ah, yes. I remember now. Thanks Lizette! Peter Ten Eyck, are you using a SLIP? According to that presentation, you should not use a SLIP

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:14 AM Peter Ten Eyck wrote: LE runtime is TERMTHDACT(UADUMP,,96) Ok. I will bite. I see in LE book, this: Under non-CICS, if the appropriate DD

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:42 AM Lizette Koehler wrote: Also these share presentations may be helpful http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/lang_environment/confer

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Steve Comstock
On 11/25/2014 8:19 AM, Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:42 AM Lizette Koehler wrote: Also these share presentations may be helpful

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:27:23 -0700 Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: :You would need to see what module the CEEDUMP is indicating is the issue. When you get an SYSUDUMP you would need to use IPCS and VERBX LEDATA to get to the regs to see what is going on. A nit. IPCS runs

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:46 AM On 11/25/2014 8:19 AM, Chase, John wrote: [ snip ] Indeed. We're currently working a PMR in which, to get an SVCDUMP of a S0C4 before LE's condition

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Thanks for the good feedback. I had the programmer use the SYSUDUMP DD for this program... which did produce a SOC1 dump. This dump was sent to Abend-Aid and the programmer was able to make a correction to the code and get the program running cleanly. I still do not know what it is about that

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
As I told already in my previous post on this topic: there are certains types of errors, especially when code area is overwritten (S0C1 can be a symptom for that kind of error), when LE error handler is not able to cope with program errors (maybe LE control blocks are damaged too). If you are

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 01:33:00 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: I do classes on dump diagnose, BTW, Many years ago I did a dump class - as an adjunct to the MVS Internals class Amdahl used to offer. Hand-outs for the class included multiple fanfold listings - each several inches thick. which we had

SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-24 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
I have a COBOL program that is getting a SOC1 and produces a dump when the SYSUDUMP DD is code in the failing step. If CEEDUMP is coded instead of SYSUDUMP no dump is produced. This program is complied with the same COBOL parameters and run in the same LE environment as other COBOL programs

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-24 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Dump information is only written to CEEDUMP following an S0C1 abend, if the S0C1 was handled by LE. This should be the normal case in a LE environment. But in this case, if you don't get CEEDUMP information written following the S0C1, I guess that THIS S0C1 is not handled by LE, but it is a

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-24 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
One more idea: I once had a strange S0C1 abend because due to an index range error large parts of the program code were overwritten, and even the LE error handler was unable to diagnose the error correctly, although under normal circumstances it should be able to do so. This was PL/1, not

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
How is your termthdact coded for the le environment? Lizette -Original Message- From: Peter Ten Eyck peter_tene...@farmfamily.com Sent: Nov 24, 2014 2:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP I have a COBOL program that is getting a SOC1 and produces

Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-24 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bernd Oppolzer Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP One more idea: I once had a strange S0C1 abend