Re: SYSOUT FORMS question

2021-09-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 5:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSOUT FORMS question On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 20:46:40 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It's the responsibility of the separator to start each DS on a front side; >there is not and should not be anything that

Re: SYSOUT FORMS question

2021-09-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 20:46:40 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It's the responsibility of the separator to start each DS on a front side; >there is not and should not be anything that device specific on SPOOL. > Nonetheless, when the printer was directly attached to MVS each data set started on a

Re: SYSOUT FORMS question

2021-09-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
, September 15, 2021 2:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SYSOUT FORMS question It's been quite a few years since we had mainframe attached printers, and I'm trying to recall what the FORMS SYSOUT parameter is used for. If I recall correctly, if a job going to a printer had a SYSOUT

Re: SYSOUT FORMS question

2021-09-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 4:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSOUT FORMS question On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:44:19 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >It's been quite a few years since

Re: SYSOUT FORMS question

2021-09-15 Thread Scott Barry
From my personal experience (dating back to 1977-1980), both the SYSOUT-related sub-parameters CLASS and FORM (possibly also WRITER-program, and often DEST) provided a "gate" so that a queued-SYSOUT could be directed to a printer that was configured / set to the appropriate data-values via JES

Re: SYSOUT FORMS question

2021-09-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:44:19 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >It's been quite a few years since we had mainframe attached printers, and I'm >trying to recall what the FORMS SYSOUT parameter is used for. I... > IIRC, long ago we had an MVS guest directing SYSOUTs to a virtual printer. But all

Re: SYSOUT FORMS question

2021-09-15 Thread Bill Johnson
40+ years ago, I worked in the print room for a GM subsidiary. We printed using mainframe connected printers. Probably 80% green bar paper, 1-5 copies that went through the decolator. (2-5) But, we also printed checks & special forms that required setting up the printers for each form. If I

Re: SYSOUT FORMS question

2021-09-15 Thread Carmen Vitullo
IIRC if the printer is set with the last form no prompt to load the form, this goes back to old 32xx printers, if the output is for a different form it allows the print operator to load the new form, then the operator issues the $SPRTx command the form name can be anything, client specific,

SYSOUT FORMS question

2021-09-15 Thread Frank Swarbrick
It's been quite a few years since we had mainframe attached printers, and I'm trying to recall what the FORMS SYSOUT parameter is used for. If I recall correctly, if a job going to a printer had a SYSOUT FORMS value that was different than the last job that was printed on that printer, the