Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-26 Thread John Dawes
wrote: Subject: Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Received: Tuesday, 26 April, 2016, 2:25 AM John, You said the tape went to scratch, but it was P in SMS. Has it been returned from scratch to private in SMS? If it has been scratch, check out the

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-26 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
an empty tape. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: 25 April, 2016 18:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY Kees, We are using IBM TS770. In order to mount the tape I

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread Gibney, David Allen
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Rugen, Len > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 7:08 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY > > I seem to remember adding a

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread Rugen, Len
ist [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Gibney, David Allen [gib...@wsu.edu] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 8:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY It also does depend on the type of VTL. A Luminex MVTi for example, doesn't reclaim until you write to the scra

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread Gibney, David Allen
ril 25, 2016 9:53 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY > > Virtual tape processing is the similar to physical tape processing. Only > difference is that virtual tapes are files are on a storage array and the > physical tapes are square b

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
ussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John Dawes > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:27 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY > > Is it safe to say that once a tape goes scratch all the data is deleted? > > Also, is

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:26:37 -0500, John Dawes wrote: >Is it safe to say that once a tape goes scratch all the data is deleted? > >Also, is the same volume serial number - in this case A15886 - is kept and >reused? > >Please bear with me because I am not very familiar with virtual tape

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread John Dawes
Is it safe to say that once a tape goes scratch all the data is deleted? Also, is the same volume serial number - in this case A15886 - is kept and reused? Please bear with me because I am not very familiar with virtual tape processing.

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread John Dawes
Kees, We are using IBM TS770. In order to mount the tape I think the tape was still in SMS with a status of P. I am not sure if the tape was in fast-ready. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. This problem happened last Tuesday.

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:29:38 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: > >... If you want to keep your tapes, you'll need to feed your >virtual tape system with plenty of disk. > Or, simply, don't scratch them? Circa z/OS 1.9 IBM changed the behavior of GETMAIN/FREEMAIN in a way that adversely affected users who

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread Pinnacle
On 4/25/2016 10:32 AM, John Dawes wrote: G'Day, I am trying to read a virtual tape that went into scratch status. The tape has not been reused since it went scratch. The job abends with a IEC145I 413-08. I had the tape analyzed and it shows the following:

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
M-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John Dawes > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 7:32 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY > > G'Day, > > I am trying to read a virtual tape that went into scratch status. The > tape has not been reuse

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:31:42 +, John Dawes wrote: > >It seems that the tape is empty. My question is if the tape goes scratch the >data cannot be recovered even though it has not been overwritten? > >I have no problems with physical tapes which have gone scratch and not reused. > >I would

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
, to avoid a useless recall from the backend. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: 25 April, 2016 16:32 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY G'Day, I am trying to read

Re: VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread Mike Schwab
There are settings on the VTAPE server which will delete the contents under certain circumstances. On our EMC we set so many hours or days have elapsed or a percent free threshold has been reached. On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:31 AM, John Dawes <00ff0e22811f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>

VIRTUAL TAPE PECULIARITY

2016-04-25 Thread John Dawes
G'Day, I am trying to read a virtual tape that went into scratch status. The tape has not been reused since it went scratch. The job abends with a IEC145I 413-08. I had the tape analyzed and it shows the following: UNIT DEVICE SERIAL MFR