Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-18 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the warning on degaussing Timothy! *George Rodriguez* >> Does Timothy *need* degaussing??? >Only if he has a magnetic personality. Should work, he has an iron fist... ;-) Apology to Timothy, just a little word play since this is not Friday today.

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-18 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:00 PM Chris Hoelscher wrote: > > >>> Thanks for the warning on degaussing Timothy! *George Rodriguez* > > Does Timothy *need* degaussing??? > Only if he has a magnetic personality. > > > Chris Hoelscher > Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services >

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-17 Thread Chris Hoelscher
>>> Thanks for the warning on degaussing Timothy! *George Rodriguez* Does Timothy *need* degaussing??? Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services Humana Inc. 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-17 Thread George Rodriguez
Thanks for the warning on degaussing Timothy! I appreciate it! We chose not to use encryption, why I'm not sure. If there's a next time, that'll happen! *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Security* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(954) 415-7586 (mobile)* *School District of Palm

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
Kees Vernooij wrote: >Some VTL's (a.o. TS77xx) have a backend tapelibrary >with physical tapes. They need to be erased too. >When we dismissed our STK tapelibrary, we hired a >degausser to erase the data on the tapes. FYI, modern tape media, including all IBM 3592 series, have prerecorded servo

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-14 Thread George Rodriguez
inal Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of George Rodriguez > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:16 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust! > > The School District o

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-14 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
18 15:32:31 + From:"Burrell, Todd" Subject: Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust! Not sure if turning on ERASE on SCRATCH in RACF - and then deleting the datasets would work? Just a thought? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion Lis

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-14 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
M-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Brian Westerman > Sent: 14 September, 2018 9:08 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust! > > Depending on the VTL, you should be able to access the underlaying > operating system (normally some form of

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-14 Thread Brian Westerman
Depending on the VTL, you should be able to access the underlaying operating system (normally some form of unix) via the command line or terminal access and simply reformat the data partitions on the hard drive(s). I know this can be done on Optica, and Luminex and IBM's TS77xx, I am assuming

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Doug
Maybe I missed a post but, what ‘VTL’ are you running? IBM has a feature code that a CE can order that will do a data erase on the library, cache and disk. The physical backend tapes would need to be certified destroyed. Iron Mountain can do that for you. Just my 2 cents Doug . On Sep 13,

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Mike Schwab
Once all the tapes are deleted by writing to all 50K, you just have to write as many volumes as needed to fill VTS. The large the dataset, the fewer the volumes. On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 2:52 PM George Rodriguez <016eebd7289b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > That's a big order. There

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Mike Schwab
We had 30K free of 500K tapes. 288TB. On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 2:52 PM George Rodriguez <016eebd7289b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > That's a big order. There are 50,000 virtual tapes defined in the system... > WOW! > > *George Rodriguez* > > *Specialist II - IT Security* > *PX -

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Andrew Arentsen
et Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust! Sent by:"IBM Mainframe Discussion List" On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 2:52 PM George Rodriguez < 016eebd7289b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > That's a big order. There are 50,000 virtual tapes defined in the

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 2:52 PM George Rodriguez < 016eebd7289b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > That's a big order. There are 50,000 virtual tapes defined in the system... > WOW! > Depending on the connection technology of the disks, you might be able to remove them from the VTL,

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread George Rodriguez
That's a big order. There are 50,000 virtual tapes defined in the system... WOW! *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Security* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(954) 415-7586 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL.

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Mike Schwab
Overwrite each tape with a one track dataset of low values. Then overwrite tapes with a very large dataset of low values until VTS is full. Repeat one track / large datasets with high values and b'01010101'. Repeat the 3 cycles until desired number of overwrites are accomplished. On Thu, Sep 13,

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread George Rodriguez
There's a whole lot of datasets to go through to do the ERASE function. Since the hardware maintenance was contracted out to SMS, yes I've asked the question and they just notified me that they pushed the question up to there support team. Physical destruction was an option we considered, but

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Sep 13, 2018, at 10:16 AM, George Rodriguez <016eebd7289b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I was wondering if any member the listserve can help me with "wiping out" > out VTL. Any help will be greatly appreciated. > Physical destruction of the media always works. -- Pew,

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:16:03 -0400, George Rodriguez wrote: >The School District of Palm Beach County is finally shutting down the IBM >z10 and all its components. I'm sorry to hear that. >I was wondering if any member the listserve can help me with "wiping out" >out VTL. Any help will be

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Burrell, Todd
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust! The School District of Palm Beach County is finally shutting down the IBM z10 and all its components. I was wondering if any member the listserve can help me with "wiping out" out VTL. Any help will be greatly appreciate

Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread George Rodriguez
The School District of Palm Beach County is finally shutting down the IBM z10 and all its components. I was wondering if any member the listserve can help me with "wiping out" out VTL. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Security* *PX - 47652*