Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-13 Thread Michael Oujesky
IMHO, rap "music" is _NOT_ music. But highly indicative of what the coming generations will be like. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, at 2:15 PM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich > >Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not think. > > >

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-11 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiRMGYQfXrs On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 7:23 AM Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wr

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-11 Thread Mike Schwab
ject: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform > program design) > > IMHO, Rammstein should only be listened to in German! They are one of > the only German bands that have had mainstream commercial success in > English speaking countries > singing in their

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-11 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 7:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design) IMHO, Rammstein should only be listened to in German! They are one of the only German ba

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-11 Thread David Crayford
and remembered some of the translation. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta) Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 10:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-11 Thread Ron hawkins
song and remembered some of the translation. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta) Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 10:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform pro

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-10 Thread Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron hawkins Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 3:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design) You have asked me and I have said

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-10 Thread David Crayford
Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 11:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design) On 9/06/2018 7:03 AM, Ron hawkins wrote: You have asked me and I have said nothing

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-09 Thread Ron hawkins
June 7, 2018 9:50 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform > program design) > > Rammstein > > Thanks, > > Tom Savor > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mai

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-09 Thread David Crayford
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design) Rammstein Thanks, Tom Savor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 12:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-08 Thread Ron hawkins
design) Rammstein Thanks, Tom Savor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 12:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-08 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:49 PM Timothy Sipples wrote: > Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > >You missed REXX/CICS. Am I the only person who uses this variant? > > John McKown wrote: > >I don't have that product and so cannot code for it. > > You have it if you have CICS Transaction Server for z/OS, which

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Odd thing about CICS people is that they don't install REXX/CICS when it's basically *free* with CICS. The DB2 interface is simple, CICS commands and CICS APIs are a snap. It can read and write a PDS or flat file. TSQ browse/write/delete is simple and it has a full screen interface similar to

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-07 Thread Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
Rammstein Thanks, Tom Savor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 12:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >You missed REXX/CICS. Am I the only person who uses this variant? John McKown wrote: >I don't have that product and so cannot code for it. You have it if you have CICS Transaction Server for z/OS, which includes the functions that were previously in the CICS REXX Runtime

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-07 Thread David Crayford
On 8/06/2018 3:15 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not think. rap music? Isn't this a contradiction in terms ;-) What do you listen to, Beethoven? Ramstein? :) Apologies to all

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-07 Thread Mark Regan
I've determined that rap music is very boring, to me anyway. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:15 PM Peter Hunkeler wrote: > It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich > >Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not > think. > > > rap music? Isn't this a contradiction in

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:17 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > You missed REXX/CICS. Am I the only person who uses this variant? > ​I don't have that product and so cannot code for it. ​ -- Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not think. Maranatha! <>< John McKown

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
, 2018 2:21 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu > Subject: Re: opinion: multi-platform program design > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:21 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > > > ISPF > > > > ​Ah, yes, I guess you mean using ISPF display services to get input, > display o

OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich >Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not think. rap music? Isn't this a contradiction in terms ;-) Apologies to all the rappers out there, and the ones who like that contradiction, ahem.. music. No offense intended.

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John McKown Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 2:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: opinion: multi-platform program design On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:21 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > ISPF > ​Ah, yes, I guess you mean

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:21 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > ISPF > ​Ah, yes, I guess you mean using ISPF display services to get input, display output​, and possibly update ISPF variables rather that TSO CLIST/REXX variables. > > NETVIEW > ​Unfortunately, I know nothing about NETVIEW because

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 09:27:26 -0500, John McKown wrote: >... >2) REXX via IRXJCL - "pure" non-TSO REXX >​6) REXX under UNIX - program invoked with a UNIX shell script written in REXX​ > It's a shame that UNIX directories are not supported in SYSEXEC concatenation. I do it anyway to

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
ISPF NETVIEW System REXX -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John McKown Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: opinion: multi-platform

Re: opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 09:27:26 -0500, John McKown wrote: >I've already written a utility program which is designed to run as a UNIX >command, mainly interactively from a UNIX shell, but it works from TSO >OSHELL and in batch via BPXBATCH or Co:Z launcher just fine. So, from a >"practical" viewpoint

opinion: multi-platform program design

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
I've already written a utility program which is designed to run as a UNIX command, mainly interactively from a UNIX shell, but it works from TSO OSHELL and in batch via BPXBATCH or Co:Z launcher just fine. So, from a "practical" viewpoint the following is not really necessary. But I am