Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Charles Mills
> Why do you want to do this? The JCL for a zillion jobs is essentially fixed and unchangeable without disrupting other things. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016

ZOS 2.2 Books - Again

2016-08-30 Thread Dazzo, Matt
I know the books topic has been around the block several times and I have searched the archives but have not found an answer to using the PDF collection on zos, or maybe I missed it. I have downloaded the PDF collection and acrobat index to my work station and have it working. Is there anyway

Re: Dump in 64 bit mode "Storage around GPR2 is invalid."

2016-08-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:49:12 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >> You cannot call a 31-bit LE program (XPLINK or non-XPLINK) from XPLINK-64 >> unless you establish a new LE environment. > >FWIW in my (by definition limited) experience many (all of mine, for example) >assembler modules are essentially

Re: Cobol V5/V6

2016-08-30 Thread Lopez, Sharon
My concern is that IBM will announce EOS for Enterprise Cobol 4.2 and we will not be ready. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: SAD testing in sysplex

2016-08-30 Thread Nathan Astle
Hello, Is there a IPCS commands that can show me that SAD was written completely ? On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht < elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote: > Nathan Astle wrote: > > >I am creating a SAD test for one of our sandbox system which is part of > sysplex shared

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:09:45 -0400, John Eells wrote: > >I mentioned an exception. When you use a system symbol in the >related-to field specified by SYMBOLICRELATE, the system will *start >over* at the master catalog, or "reorient the search to the master >catalog." It will then look for

Re: Dump in 64 bit mode "Storage around GPR2 is invalid."

2016-08-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 06:33:14 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >@Janet, I have no personal experience with this exact problem, but from what I >do know and what others have written here, if you wish to market a >C/C++-callable API-type product in object or assembler source code

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:40:51 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >> Why do you want to do this? > >The JCL for a zillion jobs is essentially fixed and unchangeable without >disrupting other things. So the data set is not in LNKLST? -- Tom Marchant

Re: Dump in 64 bit mode "Storage around GPR2 is invalid."

2016-08-30 Thread Charles Mills
> You cannot call a 31-bit LE program (XPLINK or non-XPLINK) from XPLINK-64 > unless you establish a new LE environment. FWIW in my (by definition limited) experience many (all of mine, for example) assembler modules are essentially non-LE. They actually run in an LE enclave, but they don't

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Sneaky - but I like it Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 10:17:54 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:09:45 -0400, John Eells wrote: > >>define nonvsam(name('sys1.deleteme.test') volumes(d83xl2) devt(3390)) >>catalog('CATALOG.SVPLEX4.USERCAT') <== This one adds the entry to the >>user catalog my user ID's alias

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Mike Schwab
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > I just want a batch job to be able to say //STEPLIB DD > DISP=SHR,DSN=JOEBLOW.MY.FOO.BAR and have it load programs from SYS1.FOOBAR. > Isn't that what aliases are for? I guess you are saying "aliases are not >

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:09:45 -0400, John Eells wrote: >define nonvsam(name('sys1.deleteme.test') volumes(d83xl2) devt(3390)) >catalog('CATALOG.SVPLEX4.USERCAT') <== This one adds the entry to the >user catalog my user ID's alias points to. > >define alias(name('eells.deleteme.test')

Re: Cobol V5/V6

2016-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 06:28:35 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: >We are not planning to upgrade to Cobol V5/6 until after z/OS V2.2 is installed >because that is the only level where IEFOPZxx is available. > >Once that is available we will use the concatenation function in this parm to >use a PDSE

Re: Cobol V5/V6

2016-08-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
So if EOS is announced - the most that means is no new fixes for that version of the Compiler. I do not think the compiler shuts itself down. You can still use it. Note: I think IBM has altered the pricing on V3/V4 Enterprise Cobol Compiler to be the same as V5 Enterprise Cobol compiler. I am

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
From sad experience: If the dataset moves, no catalog entry is updated. The next reference to it gets 'data set not found on volume xx'. A data set managed this way must be marked 'no migrate' to HSM. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler

Re: Cobol V5/V6

2016-08-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I have no statistical evidence, but my impression is that V5/V6 is not yet in widespread use. The biggest obstacle for *some* shops is the requirement that output go to PDSE, which cannot reliably be shared across sysplex boundaries. If you don't do that, no problem. If you do, then some

Re: Cobol V5/V6

2016-08-30 Thread Feller, Paul
At one point there was a trail version for both COBOL V5 and V6 that you could download. If that is still around that would be a way to try out COBOL V5 or V6 with some of your favorite "bad" programs to see what happens before the clock starts ticking. Thanks.. Paul Feller AGT Mainframe

Hipersockets CPU use

2016-08-30 Thread Joe Owens
Hi list I am looking at planning hipersockets between Z/OS and Z/VM / Z/Linux. On EC12 Z/OS 1.13. The primary user will be DB2 DDF. I have read about the fact that data moves are synchronous, so we wish to make sure the network related CPU is included in any test we do. Both DB2 and TCP/IP

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Charles Mills
I said it was but perhaps I was wrong. In any event the problem is solved, thanks to @John. It's actually working in pre-production test. Thank you @John! I really do not intend to get into one of these long IBM-MAIN "tell us every morbid detail of why things are the way they are" digressions.

Re: Cobol V5/V6

2016-08-30 Thread Mike Schwab
If you convert to the new Country Multiplex Pricing, you only pay for 1 version of Cobol despite having multiple versions available for compiling. http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca=an=897=ENUS215-230 On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Lizette Koehler

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread John Eells
Tom Marchant wrote: A word of caution. If the real data set is subject to moving to a different volume, for example because of HSM migrate/recall, the second catalog entry will not be updated when it is recalled. And of course, if the data set is on the IPL volume, you would catalog it to

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
This elementary question has been promoted to at least middle if not high school. I for one am still itching to learn why it's deemed worthwhile. In any case, I suggest putting a script in place to simplify (re)specification. The sample below can be adapted to the user's environment. It's

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 15:34:59 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >SYS1.FOOBAR is a dataset cataloged in the master catalog. It's not "real >special" like SYS1.LINKLIB or anything. It's an SMP/E-managed IBM product >library. I don't think it is APF-authorized. I think it is linklisted if >that makes a

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread CM Poncelet
FWIW The master catalog should be used only to point hlq's at user catalogs and not to catalog fully qualified DSNs - for performance reasons. E.g. the hlq "JOEBLOW" should be catalog'd as a pointer to a usercat and should not be recorded as the fully qualified DSN mcat entry

Re: SAD testing in sysplex

2016-08-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
(Maybe more than you wanted to hear about SAD) 1. 'SYSPLEX' means 'using XCF'. You may or not use CF structures. If so, it's parallel sysplex. If not, it's basic sysplex. There is a difference in how ‘system down’ works, but it's still sysplex. 2. SAD is designed to dump a running (but

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:07:09 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: > >Perhaps even better, and to satisfy Gil's requirement, define a system symbol, >perhaps , with a substitution value that is null, and use that with >SYMBOLICRELATE to SYS1.FOOBAR > Does that restrict the length of related DSNs to 39

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Edward Gould
> On Aug 30, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > >> Why do you want to do this? > > The JCL for a zillion jobs is essentially fixed and unchangeable without > disrupting other things. > > Charles Charles, A long time ago I had a problem like this, JES2 (and or the

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 23:04:17 -0500, Edward Gould wrote: >> On Aug 30, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Charles Mills wrote: >> >> The JCL for a zillion jobs is essentially fixed and unchangeable without >> disrupting other things. >> >IOW mass changes can be done if thought through carefully. > But that

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Anthony Thompson
You can look forward to being neither surprised nor delighted. From Managing Catalogs, SC23-6853-02, page 19: "The symbolic string must not exceed 44 characters, including all name segments and periods." Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-08-30, at 19:47, Anthony Thompson wrote: > You can look forward to being neither surprised nor delighted. > OK. I'm neither. Thanks. > -Original Message- > From: Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2016 10:43 AM > > ... Somehow I don't trust IBM designers to have

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:14:54 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >Define system symbol to have a value of FOOBAR > >Define your alias with SYMBOLICRELATE to SYS1. Perhaps even better, and to satisfy Gil's requirement, define a system symbol, perhaps , with a substitution value that is null, and use

Re: Cobol V5/V6

2016-08-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
We are not planning to upgrade to Cobol V5/6 until after z/OS V2.2 is installed because that is the only level where IEFOPZxx is available. Once that is available we will use the concatenation function in this parm to use a PDSE dataset prior to a PDS dataset in our Production batch. z/OS 2.2

Re: I'm not sure that HyperPav is working

2016-08-30 Thread Mike Shorkend
Gadi You need to set HYPERPAV=YES in the IECIOSxx PARMLIB member. See http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieae200/ieae200357.htm You can switch it on and off dynamically using the SETIOS command. See

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread Brenton, Ren
That is perfect. The simple addition of a space after the continuation character. Thank you very much. Now to play with the ENTER KEY mapping. Yes the RD/z forum is good, but they don’t seem to have the ISPF (mainframe) heart and I really like this group of kindred spirits. Thanks again,

Re: SAD testing in sysplex

2016-08-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Nathan Astle wrote: >I am creating a SAD test for one of our sandbox system which is part of >sysplex shared with other production LPAR. >So as a SAD testing, I am bringing down the LPAR and leaving with just few >task up. Just a few tasks? This is not SAD. >My question is when I load the SAD

Re: I'm not sure that HyperPav is working

2016-08-30 Thread גדי בן אבי
I've done that. We are using FDRPAS t copy the data from our old storage subsystem to the new one. It seems that the is a limitation, and HyperPAV will only activate for volumes copied with FDRPAS after an IPL. This is documented in the FDRPAS manual. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: WLM Question

2016-08-30 Thread Horst Sinram
> Is there a way in batch to extract a WLM service definition and perform a > save/save as to a dataset that I can use for DR preprocessing purposes? Bob, depending your further requirements there are two RFEs (requirements) that you could consider voting for

Re: Cobol V5/V6

2016-08-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Sorry, the announcement is for 2015 not 2016. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:29 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Cobol V5/V6 > > We

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread John Eells
Hah! You're confusing me with Terri M. and Steve B. ;-) But of course you're quite welcome. I recently wrote and gave a "Care and Feeding of Catalogs" class for our newer folks that covers most of this (and more!), and I submitted it for the next SHARE along with another session I can't talk

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread Brenton, Ren
David, thanks, I will investigate the Slickedit plugin. Sound like what I'm looking for. I am curious about your statement: "It does have some differences that may be annoying though". Ren Ext 1448 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread Brenton, Ren
Timothy, Naive question back: How would I know if I'm running with ISPF profile mode enabled? Thanks for the IBM link That is a good article. I've not had time yet to study it in detail, but some of the items I did review were helpful. The registry tweak affects the entire PC, so I will

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread John Eells
Yes, you can do what you want. But first, you have to understand the notion of "catalog orientation." All searches start in the master catalog. If catalog connector alias is found (for example, "EELLS") pointing to a user catalog (such as "CATALOG.SVPLEX4.USERCAT"), then the search is

Re: Elementary dataset alias question

2016-08-30 Thread Charles Mills
@John, most excellent. I should have asked the guru of catalogs to begin with. Thanks, Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread David Crayford
On 30/08/2016 7:44 PM, Brenton, Ren wrote: David, thanks, I will investigate the Slickedit plugin. Sound like what I'm looking for. I am curious about your statement: "It does have some differences that may be annoying though". IIRC, for assember programmers there were some key presses

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread William Alexander
Hi Ren, When using the LPEX editor in RDz if you want to stack commands put a space after the separator character ';' for example: X ALL; F ALL XXX Also if you want to map your Right Ctrl key for when you are inside the Emulator you can go to Window > Preferences > General > Keys > Host

Cobol V5/V6

2016-08-30 Thread Lopez, Sharon
Have a lot of shops migrated to COBOL V5/V6? Does anyone have a project plan they would like to share with me? Is the IEFOPZxx member only available in z/OS 2.2? Thanks to everyone in advance. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to

Re: Dump in 64 bit mode "Storage around GPR2 is invalid."

2016-08-30 Thread Charles Mills
@Janet, I have no personal experience with this exact problem, but from what I do know and what others have written here, if you wish to market a C/C++-callable API-type product in object or assembler source code form, you will have to at least consider shipping not two but THREE

RFE for Integrated CICS Compiler Cross Reference.

2016-08-30 Thread Massimo Biancucci
Hi everybody, we opened RFE: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=93730 "When Integrated cics preprocessor is used, variable which are only used in EXEC CICS not appears in the Cross-refence of data names. It appears correctly when cics preprocessor is used" I know

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread Brenton, Ren
David, The RD/z 3270 emulator, is, as I stated before, just that... a 3270 emulator. It does not have the ability to leverage any of the RD/z niceties, like LPEX, the COBOL Editor, not the Compuware COBOL Editor. If it does, please let me know how to invoke the RD/z features. Thanks

I'm not sure that HyperPav is working

2016-08-30 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, We’re starting to copy volumes to our new DS8884. Our old controller, did not have PAV functionality, so I’m new to this. We installed all relevant service. If I issue the D IOS,HYPERPAV command I get IOS098I 13.37.28 HYPERPAV DATA 353 HYPERPAV MODE IS SET TO XPAV I’m not sure that Hyperpav

Re: SAD testing in sysplex

2016-08-30 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
If you vary the system out of the sysplex first it'll be put in a non-recoverable wait state. Your SAD test will certainly work, but you're testing it in a non-realistic scenario. A really good test of your total system environment would be to simulate a hard system crash and see how the

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread David Crayford
The Compuware COBOL editor is an OEM licensed Slickedit core plugin for Eclipse. That is a far better solution than stock RD/z which has a plethora of different editors for each different programming language. I use RD/z with the SE core plugin and have the same editor for C/C++, Java, HLASM,