Re: Question About ADRDSSU

[Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw]

Paul,

Assuming your sentence including "beginning with MONSOON,V70" was intended
to say "beginning with MONSOON.V70" I still think this will only move data
sets starting MONSOON.V70.  (note the final "."). 
Data sets such as "MONSOON.V70MORE" would not be moved.
If data sets of the same name exist on your target volume you can decide
what happens using RENAMEU and REPUNC keywords.

Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
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Subject: Question About ADRDSSU

.
Hello
.
I have a question regarding ADRDSSU -
In the past I have used the following control statements to MOVE a specific
dataset from one volume to another.
.

//COPYMOVE EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=7M,TIME=99 
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//OUTVOL1  DD  DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=SYSV32,UNIT=SYSALLDA   
//SYSINDD* 
  COPY DS( -   
 INCLUDE ( MONSOON.V70.ZFS - 
  )  - 
  )  - 
  OUTDDNAME(OUTVOL1)  -
  BYPASSACS(**)   -
  CATALOG- 
  DELETE - 
  ALLEXCP- 
  ALLDATA(*) - 
  TOL(ENQF)
/* 
//
.
.
If I used the following INCLUDE statement , my understanding is that ADRDSSU
will move ALL DATASETS (VSAM and Non VSAM) begining with MONSOON,V70 to
another volume.
INCLUDE ( MONSOON.V70.** -
.
Is My Assesment correct ?
.
Second
If the Target Volume already  contains a file begining with MONSOON.V70.
what will happen  to that dataset ?
.
Paul
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Question About ADRDSSU

[esst...@juno.com]

.
Hello
.
I have a question regarding ADRDSSU -
In the past I have used the following control statements to MOVE a specific 
dataset from one volume to another.
.

//COPYMOVE EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=7M,TIME=99 
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//OUTVOL1  DD  DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=SYSV32,UNIT=SYSALLDA   
//SYSINDD* 
  COPY DS( -   
 INCLUDE ( MONSOON.V70.ZFS - 
  )  - 
  )  - 
  OUTDDNAME(OUTVOL1)  -
  BYPASSACS(**)   -
  CATALOG- 
  DELETE - 
  ALLEXCP- 
  ALLDATA(*) - 
  TOL(ENQF)
/* 
//
.
.
If I used the following INCLUDE statement , my understanding is that ADRDSSU 
will move ALL DATASETS (VSAM and Non VSAM) begining with MONSOON,V70 to another 
volume.
INCLUDE ( MONSOON.V70.** -  
.
Is My Assesment correct ?
.
Second
If the Target Volume already  contains a file begining with MONSOON.V70. what 
will happen  to that dataset ?
.
Paul 
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Re: IBM Deceived Investors

[Mike Schwab]

Xerox was caught booking copier / printer revenue when the sale was
made, not when the actual payments were received, in 1997-2000.  I
think the stockholders got some money for the boosted revenues.
  https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/complr17465.htm

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 9:42 PM Charles Mills  wrote:
>
> If you report revenue in category X when it was actually in category Y I 
> believe that would be misleading investors and could result in criminal or 
> civil exposure, even if the total dollars were correct. I am not saying IBM 
> did that; just saying that if some company did that ...
>
> What CA did was move revenue from month Y to month X. The total revenue was 
> ultimately accurate.
>
> Charles
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Mike Schwab
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 1:35 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors
>
> Did IBM inflate their total number?  That could result in criminal
> charges and stockholder lawsuits.
>
> Sounds like they just moved actual revenues from one category to
> another category to get bonuses.  I expect only clawback from the
> employees.
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:08 PM Bill Johnson
> <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > I worked for Phar Mor. Where the CEO and his minions actually cooked the 
> > books. And went to prison. 10 years for the CEO. 3 for the CFO. Gained some 
> > street smarts. (More on street smarts later) The civil suits came AFTER the 
> > criminal ones. This case is a joke. The board approved. The auditors 
> > approved. This won’t even go to trial.
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Monday, April 11, 2022, 11:28 AM, Steve Beaver  
> > wrote:
> >
> > The problem becomes if in discovery something is unearthed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> > Behalf Of Bill Johnson
> > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 11:36 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors
> >
> > Nobody goes to prison should they lose a civil lawsuit. The auditing firm 
> > gave their seal of approval.
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, April 10, 2022, 12:18 PM, Charles Mills  wrote:
> >
> > I knew a guy -- friend of a friend -- who spent a couple of years in a 
> > minimum security Federal prison -- "Club Fed" as it was the fashion to say 
> > at the time. (Silicon Valley securities fraud -- he claimed he was innocent 
> > and took the fall for investors who were of the type you did not want to 
> > cross -- but who knows?)
> >
> > Anyway he always strongly implied that it was a lot more unpleasant and a 
> > lot less country club than people liked to think. He would never talk about 
> > the experience beyond saying "I would rather have read the book." Being 
> > locked up is no fun. Your house may be lovely but I'll bet you would not 
> > want to be involuntarily confined there for the next two years.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Behalf Of Stefan Skoglund
> > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 8:34 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors
> >
> > lör 2022-04-09 klockan 13:26 +1000 skrev Wayne Bickerdike:
> > > Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious jail time for fiddling the books.
> > > Steve
> > > Richards was sent to a dangerous max-security prison.
> >
> > It isnt really my beef, but is Taft correction facility a max-security
> > prison ?
> > Compared with the one in Terre-haute for example.
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Re: IBM Deceived Investors

[Charles Mills]

If you report revenue in category X when it was actually in category Y I 
believe that would be misleading investors and could result in criminal or 
civil exposure, even if the total dollars were correct. I am not saying IBM did 
that; just saying that if some company did that ...

What CA did was move revenue from month Y to month X. The total revenue was 
ultimately accurate.

Charles


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Of Mike Schwab
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 1:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors

Did IBM inflate their total number?  That could result in criminal
charges and stockholder lawsuits.

Sounds like they just moved actual revenues from one category to
another category to get bonuses.  I expect only clawback from the
employees.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:08 PM Bill Johnson
<0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> I worked for Phar Mor. Where the CEO and his minions actually cooked the 
> books. And went to prison. 10 years for the CEO. 3 for the CFO. Gained some 
> street smarts. (More on street smarts later) The civil suits came AFTER the 
> criminal ones. This case is a joke. The board approved. The auditors 
> approved. This won’t even go to trial.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2022, 11:28 AM, Steve Beaver  
> wrote:
>
> The problem becomes if in discovery something is unearthed
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Bill Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 11:36 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors
>
> Nobody goes to prison should they lose a civil lawsuit. The auditing firm 
> gave their seal of approval.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Sunday, April 10, 2022, 12:18 PM, Charles Mills  wrote:
>
> I knew a guy -- friend of a friend -- who spent a couple of years in a 
> minimum security Federal prison -- "Club Fed" as it was the fashion to say at 
> the time. (Silicon Valley securities fraud -- he claimed he was innocent and 
> took the fall for investors who were of the type you did not want to cross -- 
> but who knows?)
>
> Anyway he always strongly implied that it was a lot more unpleasant and a lot 
> less country club than people liked to think. He would never talk about the 
> experience beyond saying "I would rather have read the book." Being locked up 
> is no fun. Your house may be lovely but I'll bet you would not want to be 
> involuntarily confined there for the next two years.
>
> Charles
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Stefan Skoglund
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 8:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors
>
> lör 2022-04-09 klockan 13:26 +1000 skrev Wayne Bickerdike:
> > Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious jail time for fiddling the books.
> > Steve
> > Richards was sent to a dangerous max-security prison.
>
> It isnt really my beef, but is Taft correction facility a max-security
> prison ?
> Compared with the one in Terre-haute for example.
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Re: IBM Deceived Investors

[Bill Johnson]

Bingo


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Monday, April 11, 2022, 4:34 PM, Mike Schwab  wrote:

Did IBM inflate their total number?  That could result in criminal
charges and stockholder lawsuits.

Sounds like they just moved actual revenues from one category to
another category to get bonuses.  I expect only clawback from the
employees.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:08 PM Bill Johnson
<0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> I worked for Phar Mor. Where the CEO and his minions actually cooked the 
> books. And went to prison. 10 years for the CEO. 3 for the CFO. Gained some 
> street smarts. (More on street smarts later) The civil suits came AFTER the 
> criminal ones. This case is a joke. The board approved. The auditors 
> approved. This won’t even go to trial.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2022, 11:28 AM, Steve Beaver  
> wrote:
>
> The problem becomes if in discovery something is unearthed
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Bill Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 11:36 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors
>
> Nobody goes to prison should they lose a civil lawsuit. The auditing firm 
> gave their seal of approval.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Sunday, April 10, 2022, 12:18 PM, Charles Mills  wrote:
>
> I knew a guy -- friend of a friend -- who spent a couple of years in a 
> minimum security Federal prison -- "Club Fed" as it was the fashion to say at 
> the time. (Silicon Valley securities fraud -- he claimed he was innocent and 
> took the fall for investors who were of the type you did not want to cross -- 
> but who knows?)
>
> Anyway he always strongly implied that it was a lot more unpleasant and a lot 
> less country club than people liked to think. He would never talk about the 
> experience beyond saying "I would rather have read the book." Being locked up 
> is no fun. Your house may be lovely but I'll bet you would not want to be 
> involuntarily confined there for the next two years.
>
> Charles
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Stefan Skoglund
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 8:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors
>
> lör 2022-04-09 klockan 13:26 +1000 skrev Wayne Bickerdike:
> > Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious jail time for fiddling the books.
> > Steve
> > Richards was sent to a dangerous max-security prison.
>
> It isnt really my beef, but is Taft correction facility a max-security
> prison ?
> Compared with the one in Terre-haute for example.
>
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Re: IBM Deceived Investors

[Mike Schwab]

Did IBM inflate their total number?  That could result in criminal
charges and stockholder lawsuits.

Sounds like they just moved actual revenues from one category to
another category to get bonuses.  I expect only clawback from the
employees.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:08 PM Bill Johnson
<0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> I worked for Phar Mor. Where the CEO and his minions actually cooked the 
> books. And went to prison. 10 years for the CEO. 3 for the CFO. Gained some 
> street smarts. (More on street smarts later) The civil suits came AFTER the 
> criminal ones. This case is a joke. The board approved. The auditors 
> approved. This won’t even go to trial.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2022, 11:28 AM, Steve Beaver  
> wrote:
>
> The problem becomes if in discovery something is unearthed
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Bill Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 11:36 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors
>
> Nobody goes to prison should they lose a civil lawsuit. The auditing firm 
> gave their seal of approval.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Sunday, April 10, 2022, 12:18 PM, Charles Mills  wrote:
>
> I knew a guy -- friend of a friend -- who spent a couple of years in a 
> minimum security Federal prison -- "Club Fed" as it was the fashion to say at 
> the time. (Silicon Valley securities fraud -- he claimed he was innocent and 
> took the fall for investors who were of the type you did not want to cross -- 
> but who knows?)
>
> Anyway he always strongly implied that it was a lot more unpleasant and a lot 
> less country club than people liked to think. He would never talk about the 
> experience beyond saying "I would rather have read the book." Being locked up 
> is no fun. Your house may be lovely but I'll bet you would not want to be 
> involuntarily confined there for the next two years.
>
> Charles
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Stefan Skoglund
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 8:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors
>
> lör 2022-04-09 klockan 13:26 +1000 skrev Wayne Bickerdike:
> > Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious jail time for fiddling the books.
> > Steve
> > Richards was sent to a dangerous max-security prison.
>
> It isnt really my beef, but is Taft correction facility a max-security
> prison ?
> Compared with the one in Terre-haute for example.
>
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Re: Don't shoot the messenger

[Mike Schwab]

z processors before z13 IPL in 31 bit mode and the OS changes to 64 bit mode.
z13+ IPL in 64 bit mode and require z/VM to run 31 bit mode.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 3:56 PM PINION, RICHARD W.
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Re: Command execution through OUTTRAP giving rc -1645

[Hobart Spitz]

I don't think VARSTORAGE(HIGH) is the best approach.  I would stick with
LOW.  The message suggests that RACF is running out of storage. .OUTTRAP
knows nothing about userlists, so it's probably not an OUTTRAP
message.  Further, the return code is not from OUTTRAP, it is from the
command being executed.  So I would not have thought this is an OUTTRAP
issue..

RACF does not use the same storage as REXX for data.  In fact, they could
compete and lead to an out of space condition, such as you might have here,
with a small REGION= or some other space constraint situation.

FYI:  The following statement is false:
>When you output data to a REXX stem and you use that same
>tem over and over again, the storage for the stem is not reused by REXX.
>In other words, every time you use the same stem name, new storage is
>allocated, the old storage for the stem is not freed

When you give a new value to a variable, a compound variable or a stem, the
old value(s) become/s inaccessible in the data heap.  Individual compound
variables (tails) of the same stem can be widely scattered depending on how
they were allocated, how they were reassigned values, and what else was
going on.  So, it's best not to think of a stem as a block of storage, or
even that consecutive elements have monotonic addresses.

Inaccessible data is called "garbage" and is subject to reclamation via
garbage collection.  After garbage collection, everything accessible is
moved to the beginning of the heap, and the free space is consolidated at
the end.  New data is assigned consecutive addresses as in a stack, until
the space runs out, and garbage collection is needed again.

I don't know how REXX chooses the initial heap size or if a larger heap is
requested as an out-of-space recovery.

So the space for a variable, etc. that is assigned a new value is never
lost.  It is made available again when space runs out and garbage
collection is performed.  It is true that values that are not replaced
continue to take up space unless explicitly or implicitly DROPped.

It is true that values that are not replaced continue to take up space.  If
you assign values to 100 elements of a stem, and then assign new values to
10 of them (without DROPping the stem or changing the default value), the
remaining 90 elements will still exist, take up space, and be accessible by
their tails.  It matters not if the tails are numeric or otherwise.

If you have some pathological case where you have a large stem of many
megabyte strings, using DROP when you are done with it will turn the data
into collectable "garbage" (inaccessible space).  However, if you have a
lot of local variables, compound variables and/or stems, using PROCEDURE [
EXPOSE ... ] will be a tad faster and probably more maintainable.

For example:

UserIdList:

  procedure
  signal on error name RACFNonZeroRC

  call outtrap "RACFOut."

  "Your RACF command"

  call outtrap "off"

  UsrLst = ""

  do iR = 1 to RACFOut.0

  parse var RACFOut.iR /* some pattern to extract a value into UId . */

  UsrLst = UsrLst UId

  end iR

  return Usrlst /* Stem gets dropped implicitly as part of the return. */

RACFNonZeroRC:

  say "RACF command ended with RC" RC

  exit RC


Everytime the function/subroutine returns, the space used by the stem is
made available for reclamation by garbage collection.  The same goes for
UId and iR, in this case.

I hope this helps.

OREXXMan
Q: What do you call the residence of the ungulate with the largest antlers?
A: A moose pad.
:-D
Would you rather pass data in move mode (*nix piping) or locate mode
(Pipes) or via disk (JCL)?  Why do you think you rarely see *nix commands
with more than a dozen filters, while Pipelines specifications are commonly
over 100s of stages, and 1000s of stages are not uncommon.
REXX is the new C.


On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 8:02 AM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> Unless there is a gateway from the bit.listserv.* news group to the
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> of Vaid Laturkar [vnath2...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 12:35 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Command execution through OUTTRAP giving rc -1645
>
> Bob, not sure about it. I have written in group bit.listserv.tsorexx.
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 7:01 PM Bob Bridges  wrote:
>
> > Vaid, I haven't seen this post on TSO-REXX yet, just so you know.
> >
> > ---
> > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
> >
> > /* Hmmm, I found a strange piece of plastic on the floor that looks like
> > it broke off of something, but I have no idea what.  Better save it in
> the
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> > -Original Message-
> > 

Re: z16 documentation discrepancy

[Martin Packer]

I’m not sure if this is a metathread about consistency or not  but let me 
assume not.

With z/OS 2.5 you can go above 4TB – up to 16TB – but only with 2GB pages. And 
these aren’t your ordinary run of the mill pages. Think Db2 BPs, Java Heap, 
zCX. (We talked about this – Marna and I in the last episode of our podcast.) 

One limit you didn’t mention – but I found of interest recently – is CFCC. I’m 
told the limit for that is 3TB. (Customer was at 2TB and could use more – so 
this was not academic.)

Hoping this helps.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Radoslaw Skorupka 
Date: Monday, 11 April 2022 at 20:06
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] z16 documentation discrepancy
Actually it is not z16 specific, similar discrepancies could be observed
for previous generations.

I mean memory limits for given LPAR modes (General, CF, z/VM, Linux
Only) and operating systems.
Example: PR/SM Planning says z/OS 2.5 is limited to 4TB, while it was
announced the limit was increased to 16TB.
PR/SM says z/TPF is limited to 1TB, while Redbook z16 Tech. Guide says
it is 4TB.
According to PR/SM Planning Linux is limited to 1TB.
There are cases where one can find "different versions of truth" within
single book.
Similiar discrepancies can be found in regard of limit of processors.


Fine print note: Memory limit for LPAR in General mode is increased to
32TB which is more than z/OS can support, but this is not discrepancy,
here we have two different limits. Same scenario in z15 and z/OS 2.4 -
LPAR 16TB, OS 4TB.
In the paragraph above I'm talking about different answers for same
question.

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z16 documentation discrepancy

[Radoslaw Skorupka]

Actually it is not z16 specific, similar discrepancies could be observed 
for previous generations.


I mean memory limits for given LPAR modes (General, CF, z/VM, Linux 
Only) and operating systems.
Example: PR/SM Planning says z/OS 2.5 is limited to 4TB, while it was 
announced the limit was increased to 16TB.
PR/SM says z/TPF is limited to 1TB, while Redbook z16 Tech. Guide says 
it is 4TB.

According to PR/SM Planning Linux is limited to 1TB.
There are cases where one can find "different versions of truth" within 
single book.

Similiar discrepancies can be found in regard of limit of processors.


Fine print note: Memory limit for LPAR in General mode is increased to 
32TB which is more than z/OS can support, but this is not discrepancy, 
here we have two different limits. Same scenario in z15 and z/OS 2.4 - 
LPAR 16TB, OS 4TB.
In the paragraph above I'm talking about different answers for same 
question.


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Re: [TSO-REXX] Command execution through OUTTRAP giving rc -1645

[Vaid Laturkar]

Gil, thanks for the other options but since this exec has been executing
successfully for years at multiple customers and the current situation is
unique, really looking to get this fixed/clarified.



On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 11:03 PM Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Apr 11, 2022, at 10:51:12, Vaid Laturkar wrote:
> >
> > cross post to IBM-MAIN, TSO REXX.
> >
> (I do not see your most recent ply on IBM-MAIN)
>
> > We have a long running REXX exec working at different customer sites.
> > This uses OUTTRAP to trap output of RACF command 'SEARCH CLASS(USER)' and
> > then iterates through the list for further processing.
> >
> Might it be better to run the RAC command directly with ADDRESS LINIKMVS
> or EXEC PGM= rather than ADDRESS TSO and redirect the output to
> o An MVS data set
> o Or a UNIXI file
> For post-processing
> o Or SYSOUT for post-processing with SDSF
> ?
>
> > Recently at one customer site, this command execution through REXX exec
> is
> > giving RC -1645 (and incomplete user list) when executed using one user
> id
> > but works when executed using other ID. (gets all users)
> >
> > READY
> > %MYEXECV
> > 46 *-* cmd ---> The cmd variable has 'SEARCH CLASS(USER)' command
> > +++ RC(-1645) +++
> >...
>
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Re: [TSO-REXX] Command execution through OUTTRAP giving rc -1645

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Apr 11, 2022, at 10:51:12, Vaid Laturkar wrote:
> 
> cross post to IBM-MAIN, TSO REXX.
> 
(I do not see your most recent ply on IBM-MAIN)

> We have a long running REXX exec working at different customer sites.
> This uses OUTTRAP to trap output of RACF command 'SEARCH CLASS(USER)' and
> then iterates through the list for further processing.
> 
Might it be better to run the RAC command directly with ADDRESS LINIKMVS
or EXEC PGM= rather than ADDRESS TSO and redirect the output to
o An MVS data set
o Or a UNIXI file
For post-processing
o Or SYSOUT for post-processing with SDSF
?

> Recently at one customer site, this command execution through REXX exec is
> giving RC -1645 (and incomplete user list) when executed using one user id
> but works when executed using other ID. (gets all users)
> 
> READY
> %MYEXECV
> 46 *-* cmd ---> The cmd variable has 'SEARCH CLASS(USER)' command
> +++ RC(-1645) +++
>...

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Re: IBM Deceived Investors

[Bill Johnson]

Also, just received an email that I was part of the class settlement against 
Apple. I can’t wait for my $5. I’ve been part of these class action lawsuits at 
least 20 times over the years. Ambulance chasers who go after bigger fish.


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On Monday, April 11, 2022, 11:28 AM, Steve Beaver  wrote:

The problem becomes if in discovery something is unearthed 




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Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors

Nobody goes to prison should they lose a civil lawsuit. The auditing firm gave 
their seal of approval. 


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On Sunday, April 10, 2022, 12:18 PM, Charles Mills  wrote:

I knew a guy -- friend of a friend -- who spent a couple of years in a minimum 
security Federal prison -- "Club Fed" as it was the fashion to say at the time. 
(Silicon Valley securities fraud -- he claimed he was innocent and took the 
fall for investors who were of the type you did not want to cross -- but who 
knows?) 

Anyway he always strongly implied that it was a lot more unpleasant and a lot 
less country club than people liked to think. He would never talk about the 
experience beyond saying "I would rather have read the book." Being locked up 
is no fun. Your house may be lovely but I'll bet you would not want to be 
involuntarily confined there for the next two years.

Charles


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Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors

lör 2022-04-09 klockan 13:26 +1000 skrev Wayne Bickerdike:
> Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious jail time for fiddling the books.
> Steve
> Richards was sent to a dangerous max-security prison.

It isnt really my beef, but is Taft correction facility a max-security
prison ?
Compared with the one in Terre-haute for example.

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Re: IBM Deceived Investors

[Bill Johnson]

I worked for Phar Mor. Where the CEO and his minions actually cooked the books. 
And went to prison. 10 years for the CEO. 3 for the CFO. Gained some street 
smarts. (More on street smarts later) The civil suits came AFTER the criminal 
ones. This case is a joke. The board approved. The auditors approved. This 
won’t even go to trial. 


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On Monday, April 11, 2022, 11:28 AM, Steve Beaver  wrote:

The problem becomes if in discovery something is unearthed 




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Nobody goes to prison should they lose a civil lawsuit. The auditing firm gave 
their seal of approval. 


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On Sunday, April 10, 2022, 12:18 PM, Charles Mills  wrote:

I knew a guy -- friend of a friend -- who spent a couple of years in a minimum 
security Federal prison -- "Club Fed" as it was the fashion to say at the time. 
(Silicon Valley securities fraud -- he claimed he was innocent and took the 
fall for investors who were of the type you did not want to cross -- but who 
knows?) 

Anyway he always strongly implied that it was a lot more unpleasant and a lot 
less country club than people liked to think. He would never talk about the 
experience beyond saying "I would rather have read the book." Being locked up 
is no fun. Your house may be lovely but I'll bet you would not want to be 
involuntarily confined there for the next two years.

Charles


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Of Stefan Skoglund
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 8:34 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors

lör 2022-04-09 klockan 13:26 +1000 skrev Wayne Bickerdike:
> Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious jail time for fiddling the books.
> Steve
> Richards was sent to a dangerous max-security prison.

It isnt really my beef, but is Taft correction facility a max-security
prison ?
Compared with the one in Terre-haute for example.

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Re: Don't shoot the messenger

[Tony Thigpen]

I am running OS/390 2.10 on a z10 native. You must have the z990 
compatibility feature installed. You can only run 31bit and you must not 
try to set the date/time during the IPL. IOCP must be done on HMC. I am 
using newer DS8000 so flash-copy does not work because the OS does not 
recognize the DS8000 as flashable.


I have been tempted to try it on a z114 (as I have a spare one), but 
just have not bothered yet.


Tony Thigpen

PINION, RICHARD W. wrote on 4/11/22 10:55:

Will OS/390 2.9 run under z/VM on a z114 processor?
I think it won't.  But, someone else says it will.
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Re: IBM Deceived Investors

[Steve Beaver]

The problem becomes if in discovery something is unearthed 




-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Bill Johnson
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 11:36 AM
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Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors

Nobody goes to prison should they lose a civil lawsuit. The auditing firm gave 
their seal of approval. 


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On Sunday, April 10, 2022, 12:18 PM, Charles Mills  wrote:

I knew a guy -- friend of a friend -- who spent a couple of years in a minimum 
security Federal prison -- "Club Fed" as it was the fashion to say at the time. 
(Silicon Valley securities fraud -- he claimed he was innocent and took the 
fall for investors who were of the type you did not want to cross -- but who 
knows?) 

Anyway he always strongly implied that it was a lot more unpleasant and a lot 
less country club than people liked to think. He would never talk about the 
experience beyond saying "I would rather have read the book." Being locked up 
is no fun. Your house may be lovely but I'll bet you would not want to be 
involuntarily confined there for the next two years.

Charles


-Original Message-
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Of Stefan Skoglund
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 8:34 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors

lör 2022-04-09 klockan 13:26 +1000 skrev Wayne Bickerdike:
> Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious jail time for fiddling the books.
> Steve
> Richards was sent to a dangerous max-security prison.

It isnt really my beef, but is Taft correction facility a max-security
prison ?
Compared with the one in Terre-haute for example.

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Re: Don't shoot the messenger

[Allan Staller]

I think it depends on the processor being emulated by the z/VM system.

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