Re: z/OS region memory (LDA stuff)

2012-11-09 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Some nit-picking follows. You wrote | the area (sic) starting just above ECSA and always | ending at 2GB ((-1, or X'7FFF'). John, my fault. If first wrote ... ends at 2GB. Then I thought I might prepare myself for nit-pickers :-) Since memory locations are counted starting with 0, the

Re: Yan: VSAM data set list error

2012-11-09 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi There is an APAR OA40021 about IDCAMS return codes, it goes into the oposite direction, but maybe will change something On 09.11.2012 08:22, Kayhan Tanriverir wrote: Hi David, The code changes depending on the type of command when I enter the command as Execute the code is 448.

Paging configuration recommandation on modern Dasd.

2012-11-09 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Hello, We are implementing a DS8800 with Hyperpav and like to give ASM the best paging configuration. However, the recommendations in Initialization and Tunig Guide are outdated, speaking of 3380 devices, Seek penalties, dedicated devices, channels and control units and the Suspend/Resume

Re: 26.4.2 JCL DD statement parameters and equivalent text units

2012-11-09 Thread John McKown
I think the table is on the next page, topic 26.4.3. Perhaps an RCF to rephrase this table to the table on the next page is needed. Perhaps topic 26.4.3 used to be on the same physical page in the dead tree version. I haven,t looked in the PDF because I currently lying in bed using my tablet. On

Test

2012-11-09 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Should I receive from the list the messages I sent to the list? Thanks, Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged

Re: Test

2012-11-09 Thread John McKown
Not normally. If u want to' then you must send email to mail to:lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message SET REPRO ON in the body, with nothing else in it. Try to suppress that Sig at the bottom of ur email if at all possible. On Nov 9, 2012 3:17 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com

Re: Test

2012-11-09 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Thanks, After having been upgraded to Windows7, I don't have Outlook Express anymore, which suited me for many years. I set Repro ON in the online subscribers corner. See if this works, this way I don't have the complete conversation automatically, without having to move my item from Sent Mail.

Re: Test

2012-11-09 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Another test, it took some tries to get REPRO on. Kees. -Original Message- From: Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:51 To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: Test Thanks, After having been upgraded to Windows7, I don't have Outlook Express anymore,

Re: Test

2012-11-09 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi O.T: It is early in the morning here (11:05) still up or already ? On 09.11.2012 10:38, John McKown wrote: Sorry. Address is lists...@listserv.ua.edu not VM.Marist.edu . Wish I could sleep well. On Nov 9, 2012 3:36 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Not normally. If u

FW: Test

2012-11-09 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Yet another test, it takes quite some tries to get REPRO on. Kees. -Original Message- From: Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:51 To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: Test Thanks, After having been upgraded to Windows7, I don't have Outlook Express

Test again

2012-11-09 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
I don't get Repro working, although my settings say it is ON. Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged

Re: Test again

2012-11-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: I don't get Repro working, although my settings say it is ON. Try using IBM-MAIN own web pages to do your SET REPRO and also to compose a message. If successfull, this may indicate a problem with your own method of composing messages. Groete / Greetings Elardus

Test17

2012-11-09 Thread Kees Vernooij
The website shows my REPRO is On. As suggested by Elardus, this is a message composed on the website. See if this gets repro'd to me. at the bottom of the page I see I can select to send a copy to myself. I think I don't have to check this, because REPRO should take care of this. Kees.

Re: 26.4.2 JCL DD statement parameters and equivalent text units

2012-11-09 Thread John P Kalinich
Paul, The table displays OK on my Firefox 16.0.2 brower. Regards, John K -IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote: - To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu From: Paul Gilmartin Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: 11/08/2012 08:54PM Subject: 26.4.2 JCL DD statement

Do you recognize these data set names

2012-11-09 Thread Robert Prins
Hi all, Yesterday evening I found data from HSBC customers on a system that is not HSBC. This morning I has another look around, and came across JCL containing other data set names that are unknown in this particular system. Does anyone recognize any of them: Here are a few: ORL.GRISB.PROCLIB

Re: SRB

2012-11-09 Thread Peter Relson
PURGESTOKEN=purgestoken Specifies the space token of an address space The Space Token (STOKEN) for an address space is in ASSBSTKN. It used to be that this was not considered a programming interface and that you were expected to use ALESERV EXTRACTH to obtain it. We decided that was relatively

Re: Do you recognize these data set names

2012-11-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Robert Prins wrote: //JOBLIB DD DSN=DES.GRD6.PGM,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=DES.GRK0.PGM,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=DES.GROB.PGM,DISP=SHR ... etc ... Eyecatchers (copyright, date of assembly, copyright statement, author, etc) could be more useful in those modules. Can you perhaps post them?

Re: Paging configuration recommandation on modern Dasd.

2012-11-09 Thread Staller, Allan
Hopefully Jim Mulder or Pete Relson can jump in if they disagree. As far as I can determine this recommendation hasn't changed much since ESA/390. I use ( REAL STOR FRAMES *3 ) for total page slots. This is per LPAR. Allocate total local paging space as (total page slots/0.35) to facilitate

Re: Do you recognize these data set names

2012-11-09 Thread Staller, Allan
Just a Guess (ORACLE 7?) ORL.GRISB.PROCLIB ORL7.CX.LR.BDK.CXMOV03A.OBCIGBV.FDGOXML ORL7.CX.LR.BDK.CXMOV03A.OBCIGBV.FDGOINC ORL7.CX.LR.BDK.CXMOV03A.OBCIGBV.FDGOCEN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: 26.4.2 JCL DD statement parameters and equivalent text units

2012-11-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
cc to mhvr...@us.ibm.com re HTML version of z/OS V1R13.0 MVS Authorized Assembler Services Guide, SA22-7608-17 In 6731310252845758.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 11/08/2012 at 08:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: I'm looking at this page with Firefox:

OT, but likely important: Patent troll claims SSL encryption

2012-11-09 Thread McKown, John
http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/11/patent-suits-target-google-intel-hundreds-more-for-encrypting-web-traffic/ quote The patent infringement complaints, which have also named Google, Apple, eBay, and Expedia, claim that Marshall, Texas-based TQP Development is entitled to royalties for the

Re: An information...

2012-11-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 509bfdf5.3080...@terra.com.br, on 11/08/2012 at 04:46 PM, Carlos Bodra cbo...@terra.com.br said: I known that z/OS.e is an special offer from IBM for new workloads AFAIK, IBM withdrew it a long time ago. I doubt that you can get a COBOL license for it at this late date. Check with your

Re: An information...

2012-11-09 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:34:09 +0100, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: Yes, you can run COBOL program, and it's legal. I provided a reference that said it wasn't. But that was early in the game (z/OS 1.3). I don't think it changed so do you have a reference to back up your statement?

Re: Paging configuration recommandation on modern Dasd.

2012-11-09 Thread Barry Merrill
You can calculate the percentage of peak slot utilization across time from your TYPE71 data. The MXG variable SLOTUTIL in TYPE71 dataset is calculated as IF SLOTLOMN GT 0 THEN SLOTUTIL=100*(SLOTLOMN-SLOTUNMN)/SLOTLOMN; where SLOTLOMN is SMF71MNA and SLOTUNMN is SMF71MNU. Then compare your

Re: An information...

2012-11-09 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-11-09 15:12, Mark Zelden pisze: On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:34:09 +0100, R.S. r.skoru...@snip.com.pl wrote: Yes, you can run COBOL program, and it's legal. I provided a reference that said it wasn't. But that was early in the game (z/OS 1.3). I don't think it changed so do you have a

Re: OT, but likely important: Patent troll claims SSL encryption

2012-11-09 Thread David Crayford
While there is no doubt patents are important for protecting valid inventions the majority of software related patents are a joke. Some try to claim mathematical facts as prior art. I see patents as nothing more than trading cards for the big corporations. They seem less relevant in today's

Re: Paging configuration recommandation on modern Dasd.

2012-11-09 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Berry, Allan, Thanks, the sizing is not the problem. I have historical peak utilizations and size the new page configurations to be filled for about 15% with these values. I am more unsure about the number of page datasets which relates directly to the amount of parallel I/O 's ASM is able to

Re: z/OS region memory (LDA stuff)

2012-11-09 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Yes, it took me a while to figure out what the nit pick was regarding after John responded to my post. I understood what you were writing and given the context of the discussion I think just about everyone else did too. Thanks, Mark :-) Actually, my initial response probably became too

Re: z/OS region memory (LDA stuff)

2012-11-09 Thread John Gilmore
Helpful discussion of these topics turns on care in making some nice distinctions that may seem pettifogging but are not. In particular Storage for widgets is allocated in storage beginning at B and ending at E is not in general equivalent to Widgets occupy the storage beginning at B and

ZFS - HFS Files

2012-11-09 Thread Mark Steely
We are z/OS v1r11 and I have a 2 Lpar's. Is it possible to share the ZFS - HFS files between these 2 Lpars (root, java, etc...) Thanks *** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE *** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and confidential

Re: ZFS - HFS Files

2012-11-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
If you're running in Sysplex File System mode then you can share file systems read/write. If not, you can share them if they're mounted read only. On 11/09/12 10:36, Mark Steely wrote: We are z/OS v1r11 and I have a 2 Lpar's. Is it possible to share the ZFS - HFS files between these 2 Lpars

Re: ZFS - HFS Files

2012-11-09 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-11-09 16:36, Mark Steely pisze: We are z/OS v1r11 and I have a 2 Lpar's. Is it possible to share the ZFS - HFS files between these 2 Lpars (root, java, etc...) In sysplex - yes. In monoplex - no. AFAIK You can share the data in another way, using NFS client and server. --

Re: An information...

2012-11-09 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:24:31 +0100, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: See below. It seems something was changed or I misunderstood something. Especially my memory tells me that: Customers will be able to run pre-compiled PL/I programs in z/OS.e was also for COBOL language. That is a copy

Re: ZFS - HFS Files

2012-11-09 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:36:29 -0600, Mark Steely mark.ste...@wnco.com wrote: We are z/OS v1r11 and I have a 2 Lpar's. Is it possible to share the ZFS - HFS files between these 2 Lpars (root, java, etc...) For those files, which you should be mounting read only - YES. You can share them R/O

Re: Paging configuration recommandation on modern Dasd.

2012-11-09 Thread Martin Packer
For most installations your virtual-to-real ratio is way out of date. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog:

CSVQUERY output address

2012-11-09 Thread Micheal Burn
Hi Is CSVQUERY capable of returning the address of anything that has an assembler ENTRY symbol Sent from my iPhone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: 26.4.2 JCL DD statement parameters and equivalent text units

2012-11-09 Thread Kirk Talman
The table is in 26.4.3 w/IE IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 11/08/2012 09:54:30 PM: From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 11/08/2012 09:54 PM Subject: 26.4.2 JCL DD statement parameters and equivalent text units Sent

Re: OT, but likely important: Patent troll claims SSL encryption

2012-11-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 056101cdbe84$134916d0$39db4470$@mxg.com, on 11/09/2012 at 08:11 AM, Barry Merrill ba...@mxg.com said: About two years ago, I got a call from the US Patent Office, requesting a machine readable copy of my 1984 book, Merrill's Guide to Computer Performance Evaluation using the SAS System;

Re: Paging configuration recommandation on modern Dasd.

2012-11-09 Thread Staller, Allan
Are you sure? What ratio are you using for your sizing estimates? I have not read or found anything to refute my prior estimate, going back to MVS/ESA (ignoring ESTOR paging and SWAP which are now obsolete, and possibly paging above the bar). Yes the ASM algorithms have been updated to handle

Re: Paging configuration recommandation on modern Dasd.

2012-11-09 Thread Mike Schwab
About z/OS 1.4, the 10 contigous slots algorythm was dropped and it uses individual slots. No change in the page allocation was made and about 6 months ago we asked for testing results from IBM for various percent used effects on paging. No reponses yet. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Barry

Re: OT, but likely important: Patent troll claims SSL encryption

2012-11-09 Thread Barry Merrill
Yes, the text chapters minus the charts are in the downloadable (for licensed customers) tersed MXG Source PDS or zipped ASCII directory; no MXG tapes have been created for 10 years. The USPTO was actually an MXG Licensee until 2000 when they retired their mainframe. Barry -Original

Re: Paging configuration recommandation on modern Dasd.

2012-11-09 Thread Martin Packer
Well, I like to see zero paging and, more than that, some spare real memory. What I don't much like to see is installations with tons of real memory and not exploiting it (where they could). For many the memory world changed with z10 and again subsequently... Cheers, Martin Martin Packer,

Re: .netrc on zLinux - FTP to zos

2012-11-09 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
Thanks for catching my typo's... I do in fact have machine login myracfuser...and end the macro with quit..not quite. At any rate I have success!!! I added a blank at the end of each line in .netrc and made sure the very last line is CRLF. I'm good to go. Thanks for pointing me in the right

Re: SCLM for sysprogs

2012-11-09 Thread Mark Hammack
We don't at my current employer, but at my last job (Fortune 100 company) we set up SCLM to control PARMLIB, PROCLIB, and some other system libraries through a set of exits. Mainly for version history, but also as part of our change control process. Mark Hammack z/OS Developer Systemware,

Re: 26.4.2 JCL DD statement parameters and equivalent text units

2012-11-09 Thread Neil Duffee
Caveat: I get the daily digest so you've likely already gotten an answer. I suspect it's a text formatting/separation thing. From your partial quote: Use this table to convert a JCL DD statement into dsname allocation text units., I moved back a section to 26.4.1 and found a link to table

Re: Paging configuration recommandation on modern Dasd.

2012-11-09 Thread Jim Mulder
There is no good recommendation how to set up a good paging configuration on a modern DS8800 device, nor does it explain the consequences of Hyperpav and WLMPAV set to NO in relation with OA32453 where ASM is still building a I/O infrastructure that utilizes Hyperpav. Nowhere is explained

Re: .netrc on zLinux - FTP to zos

2012-11-09 Thread Kirk Wolf
A matter of preference, but I prefer Unix here documents to echo whatever | command : ftp zos EOF put /some/path/and/file.txt 'zos.output.file' quit EOF Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com PS Now if the archaic z/OS shell would only support process substitution... On Thu, Nov

Re: Threading

2012-11-09 Thread Tom Ross
I don't know of any examples but I should imagine it's as simple of=20 starting POSIX C stub threads that call COBOL programs. If you want to=20 use shared data structures and use mutexes or condvars in the COBOL programs then you will have to either=20 create COBOL records to map the DSECTS or

Re: SCLM for sysprogs

2012-11-09 Thread McKown, John
We don't use SCLM either. However, I have just implemented a skunkworks project myself to do something. I posed on this the MVS-OE forum because it seemed to be more appropriate there. I use Dovetailed Technologies' Co:Z products. Using them, I can use Hybrid batch to run a series of UNIX

Re: .netrc on zLinux - FTP to zos

2012-11-09 Thread McKown, John
I probably would have done it that way too, if it hadn't just grown from a single line to multiple lines. I prefer echo to cat with a HERE document for a single line. The plus of cat is that it is simpler and more portable. My echo with the -e is not portable. -- John McKown Systems Engineer

Re: z/OS region memory (LDA stuff)

2012-11-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5224342763698953.wa.markmzelden@listserv.ua.edu, on 11/08/2012 at 09:10 AM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com said: quote from init and tuning guide SWA is allocated at the top of each private area intermixed with LSQA and subpools 229, 230, and 249. But is private area synonymous with

z10BC Memory Upgrade All-But Impossible

2012-11-09 Thread Edward Jaffe
Those of you with z10BC machines waiting for the z12BC to come out had better learn to make do with what you have. Keep in mind that z10BC is just _one_ generation removed from the current z114 business class machine. Nevertheless, hardware MES were withdrawn earlier this year and microcode

Re: z10BC Memory Upgrade All-But Impossible

2012-11-09 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:59:33 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: A memory upgrade is both hardware (the physical DIMMs) and microcode (enabling the memory). The only way to get additional memory for a z10 these days is to buy it on the used market. And, IBM is charging a premium price for the magic

Re: An information...

2012-11-09 Thread Brian Westerman
The only restriction is against direct execution or compile of LE COBOL. You can compile and run COBOL, just not LE COBOL (Except for the DB2 related code). Also, you can write your own CEEPIPI (there is one on CBTTAPE.ORG file 730 that has done this already for you. It's the documented way

Re: z10BC Memory Upgrade All-But Impossible

2012-11-09 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 11/9/2012 5:46 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: Customers rebelled against the constant need to update the OS we've had to dance to over the last few years, and IBM changed its tune. To the best of my knowledge, there was no customer rebellion. Rather, customers were taken completely by surprise