Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-21 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-05-20 18:42, Ted MacNEIL pisze: Windows make work until the disk is full. And that is what we want! I don't think so. Windows, in general, is a dedicated single user system. This philosophy is fine in that environment. Single user system? What about Windows SERVERS? Including

Lookup Mainframe Software

2013-05-21 Thread David Stephens
We at Longpela Expertise have created a new website: http://www.lookupmainframesoftware.com. This is a list of mainframe-related software. We've included our take on what each does, categories, vendors, a bit of history, and similar products. What we're hoping to do is provide a tool to

Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-21 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Slightly drifting topic: could it be that all this mess is responsible for z/OS file I/O not being able to compete with (for example) Unix file I/O on different platforms? We have a large application which needs high volumes of read only data. In Unix and Windows environment, this data comes

Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-21 Thread Scott Chapman
It is difficult to accurately predict unannounced IBM price increases and unannounced product release dates. Both of which, over a 2-3 year ELA, will happen. Is z/OS v2 going to carry a price increase? AFAIK, that hasn't been announced, but to plan for a 2 or 3 year ELA at this point I need

Re: Lookup Mainframe Software

2013-05-21 Thread Charles Mills
Good stuff. Thanks, David. Also, thanks for your STCK(E) converter. http://www.longpelaexpertise.com.au/toolsTOD.php Have used that from time to time. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Stephens Sent:

Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-21 Thread Staller, Allan
How about data striping? snip Now, to save CPU, we tried the Unix/Windows solution on z/OS too. The result was: the CPU time was 25 % less, but elapsed time was significantly higher, due to waits on the file I/O - although there was not much file I/O - most of it was reduced by the main

I/O Optimization (was: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF ...)

2013-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 May 2013 09:55:51 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: Slightly drifting topic: We use fseek / ftell / fread to do the file I/O. The files are normal sequential OS files. Sounds like the worst of both worlds. Have you tried it with normal z/OS UNIX files? The kernel may do the caching

Re: Rather interesting article on hacking the mainframe using ftp

2013-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 May 2013 01:03:33 -0400, Scott Ford wrote: First of all, been around a block a few thousand times..it's irresponsible from the standpoint of publishing how to do it. I wouldn't do this or even consider doing it ...but that's me WTF!? If there were a real threat it would be

why does WLM Server status change from YES to NO

2013-05-21 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Would anyone know why the WLM SERVER status keeps changing from YES to NO? We have other tasks defined with the same SrvClass CIC_AORP and they are always set to SERVER YES. Does it have anything to do with the actual work load being done by the task? This is a CICS test region and we are trying

Re: I/O Optimization (was: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF ...)

2013-05-21 Thread John Gilmore
Paul Gilmartin wrote: begin extract I've found that for large numbers of small files z/OS UNIX files vastly outperform legacy data sets. The allocate/open/close/free overhead is brutal. /end extract My measurements confirm this, but when these small files are moved [as members] into a single

Re: Rather interesting article on hacking the mainframe using ftp

2013-05-21 Thread John Gilmore
Here, as is not always my wont, I find myself in strong agreement with Paul Gilmartin. Security via obscurity---Let's not talk about this; it may go away; and we certainly don't want anyone else to know about it---is a delusionary notion in all but the very short term. (There is a case to be

Luminex tapeless solution

2013-05-21 Thread Hervey Martinez
Hello, We'll be testing a Luminex tapeless solution in our mainframe environment in the next couple of months and just wondering if any of you out there have gone through this type of implementation. If so, any problems encountered migrating the HSM or TSM tape date to this new hardware?

Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-21 Thread John Gilmore
There are many ways to improve I/O for sequential files. My own experience suggests that the use of BUFNO= and NCP= is exiguous and should not be. Comparison shopping is unlikely to be helpful. These problems need to be addressed directly taking low-level measurements: To be told that one has

Re: Rather interesting article on hacking the mainframe using ftp

2013-05-21 Thread John Gilmore
On 5/21/13, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Gil, You have your opinion and I have mine. Lets leave it at that. Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On May 21, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On

Re: Luminex tapeless solution

2013-05-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Hervey, Please post your observations. We are currently looking at various tape solutions for Mainframe and I will be interested to see how Luminex works for you. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Hervey

Re: I/O Optimization (was: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF ...)

2013-05-21 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
We already have improvements to cut the open/close/free overhead. The ca. 800 little tables are put into 8 large containers, which have a (sort of) directory at the beginning, so that there is only one open for the container. The open is done only once, and the containers stay open throughout the

Optica FICON-ESCON converter

2013-05-21 Thread R.S.
Q1. Anybody knows a price of the converter? Q2. How is it looks like? I mean how many ports are available on FICON and ESCON side, etc. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego

Group capacity lpar capped ?

2013-05-21 Thread Bernard Coeytaux
Is there a way by searching storage (RCT,RMCT,call IWMQVS) to now at a specific time if a lpar is capped ? For lpars in the same group capacity (all cp shared, no hard lpar capping) Thanks Bernard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: I/O Optimization

2013-05-21 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
BTW: for another customer (also z/OS based), we put all the data in a data space, using a 3rd party system that the other customer provided. No problem there. For Windows server, the application runs multi-threaded, and the cache data of the table system needs to be serialized; this is done

Re: why does WLM Server status change from YES to NO

2013-05-21 Thread Staller, Allan
Most likely the level of activity within the region. Server status, IIRC, is set by the monitored transactions flowing through the region. Check the WLM Planning Guide, or the relevant CICS docs. HTH, snip Would anyone know why the WLM SERVER status keeps changing from YES to NO? We have

Re: Luminex tapeless solution

2013-05-21 Thread Darth Keller
I would think HSM would have the same issues regardless of the virtual tape system used. We have an MDL - As I remember, we set up a new esoteric to use with the MDL. So UNITNAME had to be changed. We used a tape size of 40GB's for the MDL. We changed RECYCLEPERCENT(5). So as not to

Re: Rather interesting article on hacking the mainframe using ftp

2013-05-21 Thread Scott Ford
John and Gil, I am not trying to argue with anyone or take this personally ... Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On May 21, 2013, at 10:06 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/21/13, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: Lookup Mainframe Software

2013-05-21 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Tue, 21 May 2013 08:24:41 -0400, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Good stuff. Thanks, David. Also, thanks for your STCK(E) converter. http://www.longpelaexpertise.com.au/toolsTOD.php Have used that from time to time. Charles The STCK converter is not handling leap seconds. If you

Re: Luminex tapeless solution

2013-05-21 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 07:14 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: Please post your observations [...] Luminex We didn't buy anybody's solution, but seriously flirted with Luminex last year. Art Tolsma was generous with his time at SHARE, which made me interested to begin with, and Dave Tolsma was open

Re: Rather interesting article on hacking the mainframe using ftp

2013-05-21 Thread Kirk Wolf
I don't consider the article useless. The take away should be: if you don't lock down your FTP(only) users so that they can't submit jobs then they might do things that you didn't expect. Also, you should secure your system so that arbitrary jobs cannot bind to TCP ports.

Re: Rather interesting article on hacking the mainframe using ftp

2013-05-21 Thread Scott Ford
Kirk, Agreed ...firewalls can be breached too Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On May 21, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: I don't consider the article useless. The take away should be: if you don't lock down

Re: Rather interesting article on hacking the mainframe using ftp

2013-05-21 Thread John Gilmore
Kirk, You have found graces, if not perhaps saving ones. My objection to this piece was not so much to its content, which was banal, as it was to its title, which was misleading and, I suspect, meretricious too. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: I/O Optimization (was: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF ...)

2013-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 May 2013 09:30:41 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: My measurements confirm this, but when these small files are moved [as members] into a single PDSE things change dramatically. The UNIX times are 1.47-3.07 times higher: To avoid spurious exactitude let us just say significantly higher.

Re: Rather interesting article on hacking the mainframe using ftp

2013-05-21 Thread John McKown
The new mantra: Marketing, Marketing, Marketing has replaced the old Location, Location, Location. hacking in the title will get more hits than a title such as A way to use FTP to get a UNIX shell prompt on z/OS On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:30 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Kirk,

Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-21 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/21/2013 4:14 AM, Scott Chapman wrote: Is z/OS v2 going to carry a price increase? AFAIK, that hasn't been announced, but to plan for a 2 or 3 year ELA at this point I need to plan for what that price increase might be and when we might migrate to it. Good question in light of IBM's

Re: Lookup Mainframe Software

2013-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 May 2013 10:06:12 -0500, Bill Godfrey wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2013 08:24:41 -0400, Charles Mills wrote: Also, thanks for your STCK(E) converter. http://www.longpelaexpertise.com.au/toolsTOD.php Have used that from time to time. The STCK converter is not handling leap seconds. If you

Re: Luminex tapeless solution

2013-05-21 Thread Doug Fuerst
I did a Luminex implementation. .Contact me off list if you want some information on it. Doug Doug Fuerst Principal Consultant BK Associates 718.921.2620 917.572.7364 d...@bkassociates.net -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Generation of dump created by the DFSMSHSM

2013-05-21 Thread Helio Jose Da Silva
All list, I need find the generation of dump created by the HSM. I used the LIST COPYPOOL command, but I didn't get to see the generation. Which command I'll can to use? Can someone I help me? Thank you. Helio Jose Da Silva

Re: JOB: z/OS Systems Programmer @ Univ. of FL

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Pace
I agree with everything you've said, except the Ice storms. They may form some ice in winter, but not ice storms, that would be a once in a life time event. Snow occurs every 20 years for so. You may be thinking of Gainesville, GA. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Timothy Sipples

Generation of dump created by the DFSMSHSM

2013-05-21 Thread Helio Jose Da Silva
All list, I need find the generation of dump created by the HSM. I used the LIST COPYPOOL command, but I didn't get to see the generation. Which command I'll can to use? Can someone I help me? Thank you. Helio Jose Da Silva --

Re: Generation of dump created by the DFSMSHSM

2013-05-21 Thread George Rodriguez
In your SYS1.PARMLIB library there's a member called COMMNDnn the nn is equal to a number you select, mine is 00. In that member COMMND00 there's a libr that reads something like this: COM='DD NAME=*PBSB1*.DUMP.DLYYMMDD..TLHHMMSS..JOBNAME..SSEQ' The PBSB1 is the HLQ used for dumps at my shop.

TCP/IP Profile

2013-05-21 Thread Carlos Bodra
Hello I'm trying to bring up a tcp ip connection in an ancient OS/390 2.5 to recover some files. My home address is 201.56.73.235 (this is a valid internet address). I'm having trouble with two next parms that are Gateway and Defaultnet. When I code folowing definitions I can connect from

Re: JOB: z/OS Systems Programmer @ Univ. of FL

2013-05-21 Thread Schmutzok, Michael A.
Perhaps taxes are lower in other counties within the state, but Alachua county (which is where Gainesville is located) has some of the highest property taxes. Only 50% of the property in Alachua county is taxable as of 2011 so it has to made up elsewhere. I haven't located the 2013 numbers

Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-21 Thread Bob Shannon
but I would be _highly_ surprised if IBM doesn't use the occasion of the first z/OS version change in 13 years to raise prices It's awfully late in the game to announce a price increase. One would hope that would have been done when 2.1 was previewed. Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-21 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/21/2013 10:35 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: but I would be _highly_ surprised if IBM doesn't use the occasion of the first z/OS version change in 13 years to raise prices It's awfully late in the game to announce a price increase. One would hope that would have been done when 2.1 was previewed.

Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-21 Thread Bob Shannon
but I would be _highly_ surprised if IBM doesn't use the occasion of the first z/OS version change in 13 years to raise prices It's awfully late in the game to announce a price increase. One would hope that would have been done when 2.1 was previewed. Generally, I don't think announcement

Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e628c16e53...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se, on 05/20/2013 at 03:33 PM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se said: The implied target for the FTINCL is the ISPFILE dataset that is preallocated. Why? Allocate one yourself that is big enough, or use FTOPEN TEMP if

Re: Lookup Mainframe Software

2013-05-21 Thread Charles Mills
I viewed the leap seconds problem as a correct answer. I viewed the tool as converting the STCK value mathematically to a readable value, not as accounting for all of the various adjustments. They should make it clear on the Web site which they are doing. Charles -Original Message-

Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e628c16e53...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se, on 05/20/2013 at 05:25 PM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se said: As I described at the ISPF-L list, this didn't work. And that's because ISPF uses an userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK file just for file tailoring into

Re: TCP/IP Profile

2013-05-21 Thread Meehan, Cheryl
Carlos- Found an old manual- - - - Here is my correction: HOME 201.65.37.235 MANLCS0 DEVICE MAN250 LCS 250 LINK MANLCS0 ETHERNET 0 MAN250 GATEWAY ;

Re: Crypto Facility performance.

2013-05-21 Thread Greg Boyd
I'm not sure I understand your last question ... but let me try to clarify a couple of things. It's important to realize that you have two separate pieces of crypto hardware available on System z: the CPACF for symmetric clear key and hashing operations and the Crypto Express card for symmetric

How to Tally Logrec Records vs. UCB

2013-05-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am looking for a simple process that will give me Date UCB #count Logrec Entry 2013-05-21 1A23 226 OBR (LONG) Information. Is there something that will do this? I just need tallies. Maybe time if I want to graph it over a 24 hour period. I can run EREP to get

Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-21 Thread Mike Schwab
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Generally, I don't think announcement previews include pricing information. Usually, only official announcements have that. The salient point is that customers need to know of price increases in advance of GA. If

Re: Lookup Mainframe Software

2013-05-21 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Tue, 21 May 2013 10:41:39 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2013 10:06:12 -0500, Bill Godfrey wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2013 08:24:41 -0400, Charles Mills wrote: Also, thanks for your STCK(E) converter. http://www.longpelaexpertise.com.au/toolsTOD.php Have used that from time to

Re: Generation of dump created by the DFSMSHSM

2013-05-21 Thread retired mainframer
If you look in your HSM Storage Administration manual, the chapter titled Using the LIST Command shows that dump generation numbers are produced by LIST VOLUME, not LIST COPYPOOL. It is on page 1355 in my 1.11 version of the manual. If you have a particular primary volume (ML0) in mind, you

Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e628c16e53...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se, on 05/20/2013 at 09:25 PM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se said: === I think that part of this disagreement is that most of my opponents here is, more or less, sysprogs. And as such they haven't experienced the

Re: Group capacity lpar capped ?

2013-05-21 Thread Roger Lowe
Bernard, We make use of the Monitor III Batch Address Space Reporter and produce wto's to show us our Group Capacity usage. An example: +RMF300I 3B: Processing CPC Report... +MVS1 - RMF301I: 4H Average: 2 +MVS1 - RMF302I: 4H Max: 3

Re: Group capacity lpar capped ?

2013-05-21 Thread suresh chacko
This is something interesting to me and I am also looking for the same. I am learning and exploring REXX. I like to have the help in displaying two items - 1. Total % Weight: and 2, WLM Capping %: 0.0. 3. A specific time the LPAR is capped using CVT, RMCT and RCT Storage search. Kindly

Re: Group capacity lpar capped ?

2013-05-21 Thread Bernard Coeytaux
Hello Suresh, yoiu will find the doc here : z/OS V1R13.0 TSO/E REXX Reference: 1.0 Document Number: SA22-7790-10 The Rexx is exactly what I want to use, I just dont kwno where is the info in storage for the capped status. Otherwise Lpar weights, machine info are ok. Bernard

Re: Group capacity lpar capped ?

2013-05-21 Thread Bernard Coeytaux
Hello Roger, In fact I'am using the rexx LPINFOX but the capped status when using group capacity is not accurate. /**/ /**/ /* Name: LPINFOX