Re: HMIGRATE in parallel

2013-09-25 Thread Mike Schwab
How about adding a VSAM keyword that after reading the VTOC, looks up the VSAM CLUSTER and migrates the entire VSAM SPHERE too? Yes, it is slower, but doing each dataset is even slower. Any way of doing something with 0 track or invalid datasets? I.E, reallocating them on another volume then

Re: HMIGRATE in parallel

2013-09-25 Thread Mike Schwab
Oh, and how about a RETRY(#minutes) that retries after a pause of #minutes for datasets that don't migrate, and a SHUTDOWN option to retry during SHUTDOWN and a STARTUP option to retry when the system is restarted. This would help get DISABLED volume empty. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Mike

Re: Setting up NJE

2013-09-25 Thread mf db
Lizette, I am using TCPIP, VTAM definitions are not done, but I have made those NJE definition on JES2PARMS and related NETSRV1 address spaces have been defined. Could you please point me the VTAM definition if it is required for NJE over TCPIP ? On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Lizette

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Mike Schwab
When you Migrate by VOLUME, it does a recall of all datasets within a few minutes. When you migrate by DSN, it does not recall the dataset until requested. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: The drawback to HSM migrate is that the datasets are migrated

Re: HMIGRATE in parallel

2013-09-25 Thread Staller, Allan
I would like to see similar option w/HRECOVER. Not for the parallelism (already provided in z/OS 1.12), but to reduce the number of commands required. i.e. RECOVER an entire storage group with one command. Rather than (in my case) several hundred HRECOVER VOLUME(xx) commands per SG. snip

Re: HMIGRATE in parallel

2013-09-25 Thread Mike Schwab
Oh. If you want to recall a dataset, and the ML volume is busy, use the last backup volume instead of taking away the ML volume from a migrate task. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: I would like to see similar option w/HRECOVER. Not for the

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Ed Gould
Jim, I do not think that allows for multivolume dataset(s) and I think for that you need to copy the entire dataset. Ed On Sep 25, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Jim McAlpine wrote: yes, something like this. COPYDS(INC(**)) - DELETE - RECAT(*) - ALLDATA(*) -

z/OS Static Route Advertisements

2013-09-25 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
Cross posted to IBMTCP-L and IBM-MAIN. Dear group, I thought I knew what I was talking about. However, z/OS V1R13 static routes are replaceable! So before the dynamic routing gets done we have connectivity through our static route. Then the routing updates replace our static route. A

Re: ISV SMF DSECT Layout to something more readable

2013-09-25 Thread Ed Gould
Mark: Having a layout of the record helps, BUT it does no good unless you have a description of the fields. Say you dump the record there is a date field . Unless you know specifically what date they are talking about (could be assembly date, date SMF record was created and another

Re: Setting up NJE

2013-09-25 Thread Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]
I have NJE setup between two Lars using TCP/IP. And I have no VTAM definitions. Brad Wissink Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID mf db dbajava...@gmail.com wrote: Lizette, I am using TCPIP, VTAM definitions are not done, but I have made those NJE definition on JES2PARMS and related

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/25/2013 5:12 AM, Richard Pinion wrote: Posts from AbsKerneels reminds me of the movie title One fly over the cuckoos nest. LOL! That's because AbsKerneels is none other than Anton Britz! He changed his identity because so many people blocked his previous email address(es). :D --

Re: Setting up NJE

2013-09-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
Correct, I was only asking if the OP was using one or the other. I can see how it is confusing with my last statement. However, if the OP cannot PING the TCPIP connection, then it is not established. Validation of the connection in TCPIP and the JES2 definitions needs to be done to determine if

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread AbsKerneels
Hi, Actually , my real name is Mohammed and Ed does not like me because the Fox channel told him, we are going to take over the world.. with or without a pissing contest.. It's not my fault that his girlfriend preferred people with a darker skin color or somebody that looks like an Arab and

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread efinnell15
Caught it after about the second post. Hasn't changed his meds though. Just an FYI this is a TECHNICAL List! While we all have political, religious, economic values and beliefs there are other list that can accommodate those discussions. While I'm guilty of drifting due to aging at least keep

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread John Gilmore
Under all of his pseudonyms this fellow is a bigot. He has a right to post here, and we cannot anyway stop him from doing so without using obnoxiously repressive machinery. Let's not, however, encourage him by responding to his offensive posts. Blowing the gaff on his new identities as he

Re: DSNAME Syntax

2013-09-25 Thread Andy Wood
On 25 Sep 2013 07:33:25 -0700, Paul Gilmartin wrote: So I infer that a DSNAME beginning with a period has some special significance when in a format-4 DSCB. Hmmm. I'm pretty naive at this. Looking in: Title: z/OS V1R13.0 DFSMSdfp Advanced Services Document Number: SC26-7400-14

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread John McKown
I can, barely, stomach the political nastiness. But the personal attack of the last message got the email address placed on the gmail autodelete filter. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:22 PM, efinnell15 efinnel...@aol.com wrote: Caught it after about the second post. Hasn't changed his meds though.

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
Humor has its benefits. I have followed this thread and been informed and sometimes LOL. Abs has not only walked over the line of reasonableness, he has run right over it with a steamroller. He needs to go someplace else with any comments that come close to what he said, even if it was meant

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread AbsKerneels
Hi Chris, I do apologize that this pissing contest turned your stomach because with all due respect to these intelligent contributors around us, I did not know we have rules in a pissing contest or I have never heard of any ever ex. a) no pissing on anybodies propaganda TV/Newspaper b) no

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Mike Schwab
Oh, and since the dataset is written to ML1, the space it occupies is available for allocation when it is recalled. You don't occupy the space for a second dataset while it is copying. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: When you Migrate by VOLUME, it

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In acdef067-c806-438e-b6cb-0708b34f3...@yahoo.com, on 09/25/2013 at 08:56 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Not only in South Africa, we do 18+ in NYC too, One of the things that happens as you get older is that you figure out that you are not Superman. Sour you can work 72 hours,

Re: Rexx question

2013-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In can3vrrkjntux_ylbhdmfkvwj-mb3fncdd+2nofneckmgttk...@mail.gmail.com, on 09/23/2013 at 10:31 AM, Rob Schramm rob.schr...@gmail.com said: and the results were very strange I suspect that the read was fine and that the error was in the code that you did not show. Take a look at IN.0 (the

Re: Setting up NJE

2013-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 043101ceb9bf$0ecbc350$2c6349f0$@mindspring.com, on 09/25/2013 at 12:15 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said: JES2 alone cannot connect without a VTAM (TCPIP or SNA) connection. It can also use a CTCA and, AFAIK, the old BSC code is still there. I don't recommend the last. --

Issue with JES SPOOL

2013-09-25 Thread baby eklavya
Hello everyone , Is there a different way to come out of the below situation other than a cold start of JES2 *$HASP050 JES2 RESOURCE SHORTAGE OF TGS - 100 % UTILIZATION REACHED * Recently , we ended up in a situation where nobody could logon to the system , and when tried to purge the jobs

Re: DSNAME Syntax

2013-09-25 Thread DASDBILL2
The VTOC itself does not have a data set name, as it is not a data set that can be allocated through programmatical use of DADSM or via JCL.  IMASPZAP allows you to specify FORMAT4.DSCB as the (pseudo) data set name of a VTOC on a //SYSLIB DD statement so that you can display or even alter data

Re: Issue with JES SPOOL

2013-09-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
One of my favorite things to look at for this situation is 1) Put the warning message lower for $HASP050 2) Look at your settings for ESTPAGE, ESTLINE, ESTBYTE 3) Put some automation in place (emails or alerts) a) Automation of the $P command to purge data based on AGE 4) Use SDSF to see if

Re: Issue with JES SPOOL

2013-09-25 Thread baby eklavya
Lizette , Thank you for quick response as always ! Ill look at the settings which you suggested and setup automation alerts . But , am also interested to know if there is a way i could avoid a cold start of JES2 when the TGS utilization reaches 100 % . In our case , we did not have spare spool

Re: Issue with JES SPOOL

2013-09-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
First, Never panic if jes2 reaches 100% TGS. It can recover Second, hold all INITS, stop TSO LOGONs Third- Breath Review the $POJ command. Very powerful and has lots and lots of options. If you have a queue that you would purge daily, Say OUTPUT CLASS X is output that is not needed longer

Re: Issue with JES SPOOL

2013-09-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
One more thought for z/OS V1.13 and above The $S SPOOL command has the ability to allocate a new space $sspl(spool7),space=(cyl,100) $HASP893 VOLUME(SPOOL7) STATUS=INACTIVE,COMMAND=(START) $HASP646 1. PERCENT SPOOL UTILIZATION $HASP423 SPOOL7 IS BEING FORMATTED $HASP630 VOLUME SPOOL7

Re: Issue with JES SPOOL

2013-09-25 Thread baby eklavya
Thank you very much Lizette . You're awesome ! On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: One more thought for z/OS V1.13 and above The $S SPOOL command has the ability to allocate a new space $sspl(spool7),space=(cyl,100) $HASP893 VOLUME(SPOOL7)

Re: Issue with JES SPOOL

2013-09-25 Thread Anthony Thompson
Also check SPOOLDEF TGSPACE(MAX= parameter. If you have actually bumped up against the maximum TGS defined here (as opposed to filling up your spool volumes) then adding another spool volume won't help. This parameter requires a cold start to change, you can't avoid that. As the JES2 Init and

Confused by BPX1CON

2013-09-25 Thread Donald Likens
When invoking BPX1CON it states: Socket_descriptor Supplied parameter Type: Integer Length: Fullword The name of a fullword that contains the socket file descriptor for which the connect is to be done. It also states that this is the output of BPX1SOC and I also believe

Re: Confused by BPX1CON

2013-09-25 Thread Anthony Thompson
A socket descriptor (which seems to be a fancy name for a number) is 4 bytes. The output of BPX1SOC includes a 'socket vector', where the socket descriptor is returned, which is a double word. It is eights bytes long because BPX1SOC can request a socket pair. I don't know where you got 16

Re: Issue with JES SPOOL

2013-09-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
That has been around since 1.3.4 - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:51:24 To:

Re: Setting up NJE

2013-09-25 Thread mf db
Hello All, Thanks for responding. Here my statement looks little confusing. From the LPAR99, The SOCKET statement has NETSRV(0) for LPAR77 with its IP address. Also, LPAR99 has NETSRV(0) with its LOCAL From the LPAR77, The SOCKET statment has NETSRV(1) for LPAR77 with its IP ADDRESS as LOCAL.

Re: Issue with JES SPOOL

2013-09-25 Thread Duffy Nightingale
Lizette is good and very helpful! Duffy Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 06:29:01 +0530 From: baby.ekla...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Issue with JES SPOOL To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Thank you very much Lizette . You're awesome ! On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Lizette Koehler

Re: Confused by BPX1CON

2013-09-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:20:49 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: P.S., in the networking world, it is called a port number. Errr...no. Port numbers are relatively static, and the port numbers for Well Known Services are likely to be defined in /etc/services. Socket numbers are dynamic. So the well

Re: Confused by BPX1CON

2013-09-25 Thread David Crayford
On 26/09/2013 12:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:20:49 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: P.S., in the networking world, it is called a port number. Errr...no. Port numbers are relatively static, and the port numbers for Well Known Services are likely to be defined in

Re: Setting up NJE

2013-09-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
Cross Posting to IBM Main and JES2 First The JCL card should read /*ROUTE XEQ nodename And I am not sure what your VTAM, JES2 deck, and other parts might be. If you are running use SDSF or MVS Console to do D NET,ID=vtamapplid,E $DNODEnodename Please look up the commands as you will

Re: Setting up NJE

2013-09-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
I forgot - Are you using SNA, TCPIP, or other for JES2 NJE Connections? JES2 alone cannot connect without a VTAM (TCPIP or SNA) connection. Check that your VTAM definitions are in place and active. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-25 Thread Thomas Berg
I you don't know/have control of which jobs/JCLs that are submitted/run on your systems, would not a logging function in a JES2 exit be a point ? I don't know the technical feasibility of this or if such a function already exist (at CBTTAPE or commercial) but wouldn't that be a great help

SUBMIT logging recording facility ?

2013-09-25 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Searching for some tool or method, to log or record the jobs and STC's running or submitted. It would be interesting to know: - how it is entered to the system ? (submit or START command ...) - who started or submitted ? - from which library ? etc etc. I'm thinking maybe some SMF user

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6af0b109b5fc0b41878c42c86444164c4b3c4...@ch1prd0310mb367.namprd03.prod.outlook.com, on 09/23/2013 at 03:25 PM, Taylor, Scott scott.tay...@autozone.com said: Only on this listserv can this particular topic become a thread... Usenet. They don't really have flames on Usenet. They think they

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
I hear Archie Bunker singing those were the days. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:51 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s)

ISV SMF DSECT Layout to something more readable

2013-09-25 Thread Mark Regan
I have a ISV software product that creates SMF records for which they do not publish the SMF record layout in their manuals. All they do is refer you to the DSECT coding in their MAC library and expect you to figure out the record layout from it. Not having a background in a programming

Re: ISV SMF DSECT Layout to something more readable

2013-09-25 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Mark, the assembler compiler's ADATA output contains very detailed info's about DSECT's. As far as I know. many utility/tool is using this ADATA info, for example the IBM C/C++ compiler dsect2c utility (CNEDSCT program) to generate C structures from DSECT's . On 25.09.2013 12:59, Mark

Re: ISV SMF DSECT Layout to something more readable

2013-09-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Did you check MXG? It maps some non-IBM records. Why do they produce SMF records if they don't provide means to process the data? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Regan Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013

Re: SUBMIT logging recording facility ?

2013-09-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Miklos Szigetvari wrote: Searching for some tool or method, to log or record the jobs and STC's running or submitted. It would be interesting to know: WARNING: My answers are out of my failing memory, I have no access to my z toy or bookies at this moment... ;-) - how it is entered to the

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Google for DSW (not the shoe store). 'Durban Solid Waste' or 'Deutsche Stiftung Weltbevoelkerung' amongst 13,6 million Google hits? :-) H... :-D :-D :-D I'm getting too many stock related hits for that shoe shop and that shop itself... Could you please be

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread AbsKerneels
What ? Flaming contest with a bunch of old farts on IBM-MAIN ? NO.. that is impossible. These days.. it's more a : This is the BIG ONE... I have never had pain like this before.. Elizabeth, I am coming honey , to join you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stdi-1tIUhM Kerneels Translation

Re: ISV SMF DSECT Layout to something more readable

2013-09-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP wrote: Why do they produce SMF records if they don't provide means to process the data? Very Good Question! Perhap that is OCO at its extreme best? ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: ISV SMF DSECT Layout to something more readable

2013-09-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Well, then they better write it to write-only-storage. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 13:33 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISV SMF DSECT Layout

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Kerneels wrote: Old Farts : People in the USA that still think they are 21 , can work 18 hours a day, go home , make love, before falling a sleep for 3 hours , just to rush back to work , to make sure all the production systems are up and running on a Monday morning From below URLs: “He

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s) Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Google for DSW (not

Re: HMIGRATE in parallel

2013-09-25 Thread Richard Marchant
J.P. Another possibility, if you write the backups to a storage group reserved for backups, would be to use HSM's INTERVALMIGRATION option on the specific storage group. This option runs interval migration on the hour every hour except when PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT is running. This is done by

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread AbsKerneels
Elardus, TRUE story.. and this occurred at YOUR installation in the late 70's : We lost the main IMS database , with all the information of all the people that needed to klaar out.. .or move on , with their normal lives.. because they forced some of us, to donate two years of our lives to

Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Jim McAlpine
I need to free up a volume from a storage group but the volume contains several multi volume DB2 datasets. I thought I would be able to remove the volume concerned from the storage group and then do a dataset copy and delete but DFDSS doesn't like that because part of the dataset is now SMS

Re: SUBMIT logging recording facility ?

2013-09-25 Thread Barry Merrill
As previously posted, the SMF 26 JES Purge Record does contain a lot of source information for the JOB, in particular the submitting user, and the node/input devices, but there is no information that could identify the library from which the job was submitted. While I support both the RACF SMF

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
You must set the volume DIS,NEW to prevent any new allocations to it. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 14:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Using DFDSS to

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Jim McAlpine
Thanks Kees, that's the info I was looking for. Regards Jim McAlpine On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: You must set the volume DIS,NEW to prevent any new allocations to it. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Richard Pinion
Posts from AbsKerneels reminds me of the movie title One fly over the cuckoos nest. Richard and Vickie Pinion --- kerne...@absoftwareconsultants.com wrote: From: AbsKerneels kerne...@absoftwareconsultants.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Pissing contest(s) Date:

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Just out of curiosity: what is the advantage over a plain MOVE? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 14:14 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using DFDSS to move

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
AbsKerneels wrote: TRUE story.. We lost the main IMS database , with all the information of all the people that needed to klaar out.. .or move on , with their normal lives.. because they forced some of us, to donate two years of our lives to military service or to defend our country because

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Mike Schwab
Typing commands at ISPF screen. There is also the HMIG by volume command so you don't have to work with the individual datasets. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: Just out of curiosity: what is the advantage over a plain MOVE? Kees.

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Jim McAlpine
Is that a DFHSM command, if so I'm not familiar with that, I've always used DFDSS. Jim McAlpine On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: Just out of curiosity: what is the advantage over a plain MOVE? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: SUBMIT logging recording facility ?

2013-09-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Barry Merrill wrote: While I support both the RACF SMF 80 records, I'm not sure they can add to the data in the SMF 26 record, which contains these fields: Yes, it is indeed so. SMF 80 is more from RACF. SMF 26 is more from JES2 side. Thanks for mentioning SMF 26. I see you have listed

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
An even sadder story: a group made a mess of a migration scenario on some unix machine and had to roll back. Meanwhile they had put the backuptape op top of the machine, where it had become too hot and was unusable. The entire group had to work all weekend to get things up again. Were they

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Jim McAlpine
yes, something like this. COPYDS(INC(**)) - DELETE - RECAT(*) - ALLDATA(*) - ALLEXCP - OPT(4) - OUTDYN((OUTVOL)) On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: And with one COPY command you can

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Mike Schwab
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.arcf000/s6085b.htm MIGRATE VOLUME(SG1001) MIGRATE VOLUME(SG2003 MIGRATE(0)) MIGRATE VOLUME(SG1002) DAYS(0) On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote: Is that a DFHSM command, if so I'm

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Where is your input volume: LOGINDYNAM((VOLSER))? After learning from all kinds of situations, I added: FORCECP(2) SELECTMULTI(ANY) SPHERE FR(NO) Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent:

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Unless you don't need them back on disk, this involves move twice the amount of data. When moving one or more 3390-54s, you will notice the difference. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent:

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Jim McAlpine
Sorry, picked up the wrong bit of code, it does indeed need LOGINDYNAM. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: Where is your input volume: LOGINDYNAM((VOLSER))? After learning from all kinds of situations, I added: FORCECP(2) SELECTMULTI(ANY)

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread AbsKerneels
Getting it UP after working for 18 hours is a One fly over the cuckoos nest concept in the USA.. but if you are from South Africa, it's seen as NORMAL day to day occurrence... and they never found us dead at our DESKS ever or needed to phone 911.. ( Another TRUE story.. happened in TEXAS.. in

Re: ISV SMF DSECT Layout to something more readable

2013-09-25 Thread Charles Mills
Let me second this. CDSECT does a great job (assuming you can read machine-generated C LOL). http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11 .cbcux01/cbcug180191.htm Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Scott Ford
Dude, Not only in South Africa, we do 18+ in NYC too, a lot of us dedicated, old farts who care about their work do that I am slowing down at 63 ... Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Sep 25, 2013, at 8:48 AM, AbsKerneels

Re: NSA foils much internet encryption

2013-09-25 Thread John Gilmore
The WIRED piece Mike Schwab provided a link to recounts things that are commonplaces within the crypto community; but it is a useful brief conspectus for others. Worth remembering is that these situations are always layered. Duiring the Korean War it was usual for the Chinese to plant two or more

Re: ISV SMF DSECT Layout to something more readable

2013-09-25 Thread Charles Mills
Permit me to respond a little further. Which of these sentences best describes your problem? 1. I look at their documentation and it is pretty thin. I can see the individual fields, and each one has a one-sentence (or less) comment, but I don't really grasp the business significance of the data,

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Jon Perryman
The drawback to HSM migrate is that the datasets are migrated until the next use. If the use of any of these datasets can't tolerate the recall delay, then you will need to ensure it get's recalled before that time. Jon Perryman. From: Mike Schwab

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread John Gilmore
Jon Perryman wrote: begin text The drawback to HSM migrate is that the datasets are migrated until the next use. If the use of any of these datasets can't tolerate the recall delay, then you will need to ensure it get's [sic, jg] recalled before that time. end text/ This 'drawback' would seem to

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 09/25/2013 07:48 AM, AbsKerneels wrote: Getting it UP after working for 18 hours is a One fly over the cuckoos nest concept in the USA.. but if you are from South Africa, it's seen as NORMAL day to day occurrence... and they never found us dead at our DESKS ever or needed to phone 911.. (

Re: DSNAME Syntax

2013-09-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:43:27 +, DASDBILL2 wrote: FORMAT4.DSCB could cause some confusion if not used solely with IMASPZAP. So I infer that a DSNAME beginning with a period has some special significance when in a format-4 DSCB. Hmmm. I'm pretty naive at this. Looking in: Title: z/OS

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread John Gilmore
Ken Kesey's 1962 novel, One FLEW over the cuckoo's nest, is still eminently worth reading; and Miloš Forman's eponymous film is a classic. One fly over a cuckoo's nest is less significant and would in any case be shortlived since cuckoos are insectivores --jg

Re: HMIGRATE in parallel

2013-09-25 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Hi, other customers with similar scenarios have requested multitasking support for MIGRATE VOLUME and the addition of a MIGRATE STORAGEGROUP command. I am currently 'Accepting' requirements for this type of functionality. Assuming that we deliver this type of functionality in an upcoming

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread Dan Skomsky
Fletcher (John Vernon) in The Outlaw Josey Wales articulated it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=kfdpcrOgUp4 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread AbsKerneels
Just for the record : a) I really liked that movie.. ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOOS NEST b) When I watched this video clip again, this morning... Jack Nicholson reminded me of TED CRUZ or even Gov Rick Perry.. of Texas. c) Baseball tickets...as in the attached video.. I am heading up to BOSTON on