Re: APF authorization and JOBLIB DD card

2013-12-23 Thread Jim Mulder
> You mention below that the way MVS loads APF modules (bypassing an > unauthorized JOBLIB/STEPLIB module to load the same-named module > from an APF library in the LNKLST) is needed for system integrity. > Would integrity be compromised somehow more by (from my simplistic > thinking) if I have

Re: Silent but missing before OMVS initialization

2013-12-23 Thread Scott Ford
Gil, Rexx doesn't have a sleep function, usually the call is external to running environment Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' > On Dec 23, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >> On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 15:13:41 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >

Re: Silent but missing before OMVS initialization

2013-12-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 15:13:41 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 12/23/2013 2:39 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: >> I have been using //SLEEP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,PARM='SH sleep &SECONDSs' as a >> delay step in some of my STCs to wait for things like TCPIP to get up first. >> I know there are other options. >> It

Re: Silent but missing before OMVS initialization

2013-12-23 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/23/2013 2:39 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: I have been using //SLEEP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,PARM='SH sleep &SECONDSs' as a delay step in some of my STCs to wait for things like TCPIP to get up first. I know there are other options. It appears with my new z/OS 1.13 system, that prior to OMVS being u

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Re: Silent but missing before OMVS initialization

2013-12-23 Thread Scott Ford
Dave, How can you execute a USS command without it being up ? If you need to sleep you could use rexx if you had to ,,,I looked at the manual the sleep cmd hasn't apparently changed Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' > On Dec 23, 2013, at 5

Silent but missing before OMVS initialization

2013-12-23 Thread Gibney, Dave
I have been using //SLEEP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,PARM='SH sleep &SECONDSs' as a delay step in some of my STCs to wait for things like TCPIP to get up first. I know there are other options. It appears with my new z/OS 1.13 system, that prior to OMVS being up and functioning, this sleep command just r

Re: APF authorization and JOBLIB DD card

2013-12-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 16:22:56 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >If you REALLY want to fall back to JOBLIB if you do not find the >module in STEPLIB, you can just add the libraries that are in JOBLIB >but not in STEPLIB to the end of the STEPLIB concatenation. Changing >the search order to not fal

Re: APF authorization and JOBLIB DD card

2013-12-23 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 20:05 + on 12/23/2013, DASDBILL2 wrote about Re: APF authorization and JOBLIB DD card: I suspect that using the STEPLIB or JOBLIB mutually exclusively within one step was influenced heavily by the cost of "core" way back when the TCB and the initiator were being designed, maximum machi

Re: Identifying the RSU level

2013-12-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 12:48:15 -0600, Greg Dorner wrote: >D SYMBOLS >IEA007I STATIC SYSTEM SYMBOL VALUES >&SYSALVL. = "2" >&SYSCLONE. = "??" >&SYSNAME. = "" >&SYSPLEX. = "" >&SYSR1.= "??" >

Re: APF authorization and JOBLIB DD card

2013-12-23 Thread DASDBILL2
I suspect that using the STEPLIB or JOBLIB mutually exclusively within one step was influenced heavily by the cost of "core" way back when the TCB and the initiator were being designed, maximum machine memory sizes were MUCH smaller than today, CPU cycle time was much longer, etc.  Many other de

Re: APF authorization and JOBLIB DD card

2013-12-23 Thread Pommier, Rex
Jim, Obviously I don't have access to their source code, so I can't answer your question. I do appreciate the patient responses you gave to my questions and the help you (and others) gave me while I was trying to figure this one out. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discu

Re: APF authorization and JOBLIB DD card

2013-12-23 Thread Pommier, Rex
Peter, I'm asking this follow-up question, not to be confrontational, but because I would really like to know... You mention below that the way MVS loads APF modules (bypassing an unauthorized JOBLIB/STEPLIB module to load the same-named module from an APF library in the LNKLST) is needed for

Re: Identifying the RSU level

2013-12-23 Thread Greg Dorner
D SYMBOLS IEA007I STATIC SYSTEM SYMBOL VALUES &SYSALVL. = "2" &SYSCLONE. = "??" &SYSNAME. = "" &SYSPLEX. = "" &SYSR1.= "??" &LOGON1. = "" &LOGON2. = ""

Re: Is there an MVS command that displays real storage information?

2013-12-23 Thread Wayne Driscoll
You mean like D M=STOR which returns something like: IEE174I 19.27.32 DISPLAY M 854 REAL STORAGE STATUS ONLINE-NOT RECONFIGURABLE 0M-1536M ONLINE-RECONFIGURABLE NONE PENDING OFFLINE NONE STORAGE INCREMENT SIZE IS 1M == Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMO

Is there an MVS command that displays real storage information?

2013-12-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Such as the amount assigned,the address ranges, etc.? -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely both

Re: Identifying the RSU level

2013-12-23 Thread retired mainframer
Are you looking for a method a person can use or one that software can use? If the former, it should be mentioned in the cover letter that accompanied the maintenance. :>: -Original Message- :>: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :>: Behalf Of mf db :>

Re: Identifying the RSU level

2013-12-23 Thread Skip Robinson
Long before 'RSU' was a twinkle in IBM's eye, we adopted a 'level tracking' system based on an arbitrary alpha designation from A - Z. For example, R13S. Each time maintenance is applied to the z/OS target zone, the level is incremented and zapped into NUCLEUS. This field was chosen decades ago

Re: Curiosity: TCB mapping macro name - why IKJTCB?

2013-12-23 Thread Charles Mills
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/360/os/R19_Jun70/GC28-6628-5_System_Control_Blocks_Rel_19_Jun70.pdf gives the layout of the TCB and the field names all begin with TCB. Page 282 and following. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LIST

Re: Identifying the RSU level

2013-12-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:11:59 +, Bob Shannon wrote: >It's a usermod to the operating system. CVTVERID is a customer-updatable field >in CSECT IEACVT. We use it to verify which maintenance level we're using as >we roll maintenance frequently. It can be browsed, viewed in storage, or >disp

Re: Curiosity: TCB mapping macro name - why IKJTCB?

2013-12-23 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 10:01:33 -0600, Andreas F. Geissbuehler wrote: >TSO brought us Sub-Tasking and related macros ATTACH and DETACH No, it didn't. ATTACH and DETACH were both described in IBM Operating System/360 Concepts and Facilities, publication C28-6535-0, published in 1965. http://bitsave

Re: Identifying the RSU level

2013-12-23 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 12/23/13 09:11, Bob Shannon wrote: It's a usermod to the operating system. CVTVERID is a customer-updatable field in CSECT IEACVT. We use it to verify which maintenance level we're using as we roll maintenance frequently. It can be browsed, viewed in storage, or displayed by some monitors

Re: Identifying the RSU level

2013-12-23 Thread Bob Shannon
It's a usermod to the operating system. CVTVERID is a customer-updatable field in CSECT IEACVT. We use it to verify which maintenance level we're using as we roll maintenance frequently. It can be browsed, viewed in storage, or displayed by some monitors such as MXI. It requiring zapping SYS1

Re: Identifying the RSU level

2013-12-23 Thread mf db
Is it a seperate USERMOD on a particular reporting or Monitoring Product ? On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Bob Shannon wrote: > > Is there a way to identify the RSU or fix level apart from SMPE panel > > We apply a usermod to write the RSU (or PUT) level in CVTVERID. > > Bob Shannon > Rocket So

Re: Identifying the RSU level

2013-12-23 Thread Bob Shannon
> Is there a way to identify the RSU or fix level apart from SMPE panel We apply a usermod to write the RSU (or PUT) level in CVTVERID. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructio

Identifying the RSU level

2013-12-23 Thread mf db
Hi, I have put a latest maintenance(Z/OS - 1.13) to one of our Sandbox Operating system. Is there a way to identify the RSU or fix level apart from SMPE panel ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruct