Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Jake anderson
Hello, Cross posted to CICS as well I am running a CICS load module scanner job where it fails with the below message 10.53.23 JOB02673 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT 502 502 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=106 REASON CODE=000C 502 TIME=10.53.23 SEQ=00242 CPU=

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Martin Packer
There are (31-bit and, more relevantly perhaps, 24-bit) virtual storage numbers in SMF 30 that might help you. But if you are failing to get enough storage maybe they wouldn't. I'm thinking of Step-End - Subtype 4 - records. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
The PDS directory entry in field PDS2STOR has the size needed for a classic module. There are various tools that will show you how much you have available below the line. On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:40:29 +0530 Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com wrote: :Hello, : :Cross posted to CICS as well :

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
You can check your jesmsglog for information on what was used by your application. I am guessing you are trying to run the DFHEISUP utility in CICS. You should see a message similar to this one: IEF374I STEP/CACCATIN/STOP 2007323.0942 CPU0MIN 00.69SEC SRB 0MIN 00.18 VIRT 128K SYS 368K

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jake anderson wrote: I am running a CICS load module scanner job where it fails with the below message Homegrown or vendor module? 10.53.23 JOB02673 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT 502 502 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=106 REASON CODE=000C Please post other messages (IEW* or CSV*)

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Jake anderson
Hello, I am pasting the Job log 10.53.23 JOB02673 IEW4000I FETCH FOR MODULE DFHEISUP FROM DDNAME STEPLIB FAILED BECAUSE INSUFFICIENT STORAGE WAS AVAILABLE. 10.53.23 JOB02673 CSV031I LIBRARY ACCESS FAILED FOR MODULE DFHEISUP, RETURN CODE 24, REASON CODE 26080021, DDNAME STEPLIB 10.53.23

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Jake anderson
Using RMF, I see unalloc common area : 6796K, So looks like I have storage close to 6MB. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I am pasting the Job log 10.53.23 JOB02673 IEW4000I FETCH FOR MODULE DFHEISUP FROM DDNAME STEPLIB FAILED BECAUSE

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
According to the CICS manual you should not use REGION=0M. So rerun the job with REGION=8M or REGION=10M or REGION=5M or any other number until it does not abend. Next, if it abends, review your Central Storage allocation and see how much below the line storage you have. You need to identify

Re: Was: Implicit VVDS creation now: FDR VVDS's

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Can you release extents on legacy VSAM dataset? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Was: Implicit

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Martin Packer
Worried about your terminology here. Please show us the report. In most interpretations of what you said about the 6796K number it looks like a very small 24-Bit Private is available to you. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bill, Think EAV volume... I just had a lot of fun with this very scenario building DEFRAG experiments. 2x1 track dataset, and then delete every second dataset across 256 volumes. Who would have thought that the UCAT size would be my biggest problem (5 million datasets). Ron

Re: Large Multi-Volume Physical Sequential allocation question

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bob, It's usually simpler to specify UNIT=(3390,7) and forget the VOL parm altogether. An explicit unit count is not ignored for SMS managed datasets. I used to use ACC/SRS to force all DSORG=PS datasets to be allocated with a unit count of 5 - solved my X37 nightmares big time. Blew TIOT in a

Re: What are the EAV disks capacity most big Z/OS MF customers use?

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Shai, I'd hazard a guess that shops using some type of thin provisioning would simply make the volume the maximum size supported by the controller, even if the planned to just put the JES2 Checkpoint on the volume. In this case a 10 CYL dataset on a 262K CYL volume is not a problem, or a waste.

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
I recall it was 1/3 of the way in, and the idea was nuked by cache (3880-13/23). No point clustering your busiest datasets together 1/3 or 1/2 of the way into the volume when they are usually cache resident. You create a nice quiet area on the platter for seeking between those less busy

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
That sounds like GTFPARS. It used to read a GTF trace and generate IEHLIST for the volumes it found. It used to generate a kewl seek histogram, and a dataset seek activity report you could use to tune the location of your busiest datasets. I used to tune SYSRES dataset positions using this,

Re: Hercules

2014-02-20 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.hercules-390.eu/ is the new site. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Which OS? Windows (which version)? Linux (which distro)? Other? Have u gone to http://www.hercules-390.org ? On Feb 19, 2014 9:38 PM, Cameron Seay cws...@gmail.com

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Martin Packer Worried about your terminology here. Please show us the report. In most interpretations of what you said about the 6796K number it looks like a very small 24-Bit Private is available to you.

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2014-02-20 Thread Scott Ford
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2014-02-20 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
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MIH Question

2014-02-20 Thread Dazzo, Matt
We recently migrated from a IBM shark dasd device to a IBM DS8870 device, we are zos 1.13 monoplex shop. In the IECIOS000 member was the following entry for the shark devices MIH DEV=(2000-2BFF),TIME=02:00. Is there a way to determine if an entry is needed and what it should be for the new

Re: MIH Question

2014-02-20 Thread Staller, Allan
Try here: http://rumba.kbm1.com/ Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664-3565 | allan.stal...@kbmg.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:50 AM To:

Re: MIH Question

2014-02-20 Thread Staller, Allan
Oops! Wrong message replied to. 'sorry bout that folks Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664-3565 | allan.stal...@kbmg.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Thursday,

Re: What are the EAV disks capacity most big Z/OS MF customers use?

2014-02-20 Thread Shai S
Thank you. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Shai, I'd hazard a guess that shops using some type of thin provisioning would simply make the volume the maximum size supported by the controller, even if the planned to just put the JES2 Checkpoint

Re: MIH Question

2014-02-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
There should be something documented in the manuals for your DS8870 to state what they want. Or you can ask you friendly IBMer. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Thursday, February 20,

Re: Machine power off and CF

2014-02-20 Thread Mullen, Patrick
SETRRS SHUTDOWN has always worked fine for us. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Machine power off and CF Hi

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2014-02-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
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Re: MIH Question

2014-02-20 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Staller, Allan wrote: Try here: http://rumba.kbm1.com/ Oops! Wrong message replied to. 'sorry bout that folks Too many Macarena dances with Teqiula? ;-D ;-D There was an emulator product called 'Rumba'. I remembered the good old days when I have to evaluate that thing. Groete / Greetings

Re: MIH Question

2014-02-20 Thread Brian France
We did this so long ago I disremember a lot of it. BUT I can state that there are no MIH values coded in our IOS member. Just Hyperpav... Oh and we are a basic sysplex shop On 2/20/2014 10:08 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: There should be something documented in the manuals for your DS8870 to

Re: Machine power off and CF

2014-02-20 Thread Skip Robinson
When you power off a CF (internal or external) you lose all allocated structures. Most exploiters, unless they have been shut down squeaky clean--expect to find residual data in the CF from their previous active state. Like most applications, RRS should be OK to start afresh on Monday morning

Re: Machine power off and CF

2014-02-20 Thread Mark Jacobs
I'm not sure about that answer, you might have to perform an RRS cold start. Mark Jacobs On 02/20/14 10:35, Skip Robinson wrote: When you power off a CF (internal or external) you lose all allocated structures. Most exploiters, unless they have been shut down squeaky clean--expect to find

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:36:43 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: According to the CICS manual you should not use REGION=0M. So rerun the job with REGION=8M or REGION=10M or REGION=5M or any other number until it does not abend. How about REGION=16385K? (By experiment, I discover that REGION=0K has

Re: Machine power off and CF

2014-02-20 Thread Skip Robinson
Agreed that this may not be sufficient to ride out a power outage. I can't test it because we never power off. Try it. If the problem persists, OP might open an SR with IBM. Otherwise try to 'automate' RRS cold start for the first IPL of the week. Cold start involves deleting/reallocating one

Console status after IEARELCN

2014-02-20 Thread Skip Robinson
We need to activate an IODF to redefine (NIP) consoles. Activate does not 'redefine'. It deletes and adds back. These consoles are currently PINNED and block IODF activation. I can run IEARELCN to remove them. After IODF activate, is there any way to get the consoles back short of IPL? . .

Re: Console status after IEARELCN

2014-02-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-02-20 18:35, Skip Robinson pisze: We need to activate an IODF to redefine (NIP) consoles. Activate does not 'redefine'. It deletes and adds back. These consoles are currently PINNED and block IODF activation. I can run IEARELCN to remove them. After IODF activate, is there any way to

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/20/2014 2:10 AM, Jake anderson wrote: 10.53.23 JOB02673 IEW4000I FETCH FOR MODULE DFHEISUP FROM DDNAME STEPLIB FAILED BECAUSE INSUFFICIENT STORAGE WAS AVAILABLE. 10.53.23 JOB02673 CSV031I LIBRARY ACCESS FAILED FOR MODULE DFHEISUP, RETURN CODE 24, REASON CODE 26080021, DDNAME STEPLIB

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Pommier, Rex
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:36:43 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: According to the CICS manual you should not use REGION=0M. So rerun the job with REGION=8M or REGION=10M or REGION=5M or any other number until it does not abend. How about REGION=16385K? (By experiment, I discover that REGION=0K has

RES: Console status after IEARELCN

2014-02-20 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Skip, If you are at z/OS 2.1, you can dynamically add consoles. Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto BANCO BRADESCO S.A. 4250 / DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: +55 11 3684-2177 R: 42177 3-1402 Fax: +55 11 3684-4427 Agora é BRA. BRA

Re: RES: Console status after IEARELCN

2014-02-20 Thread Skip Robinson
Ah yes, 2.1. Still in the install process. ;-( This is R13. As to Radoslaw's suggestion, this is our DR box. The DR systems need console redefinition. What's running there now are utility systems that mirror DASD via XRC/SDM. In order to come up on the new IODF, it needs to get into HSA, i.e.

Re: RES: Console status after IEARELCN

2014-02-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-02-20 20:09, Skip Robinson pisze: Ah yes, 2.1. Still in the install process. ;-( This is R13. As to Radoslaw's suggestion, this is our DR box. The DR systems need console redefinition. What's running there now are utility systems that mirror DASD via XRC/SDM. In order to come up on

Re: Was: Implicit VVDS creation now: FDR VVDS's

2014-02-20 Thread Joseph Butz
FastCPK and COMPAKTOR can both release space in a data set and consolidate extents in a data set by changing the default settings. The default settings are to consolidate and reduce the number of free space areas on a DASD volume. jb...@fdrinnovation.com Joseph Butz Technical Support On

Re: RES: Console status after IEARELCN

2014-02-20 Thread Skip Robinson
Another question in the same realm. I find out that a console is PINNED only when actually run ACTIVATE. Does anyone know a standard command that will show the attribute? None of the display commands I've tried show PINNED on a console device. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Shane Ginnane
Some find ploughing through dumps intimidating - a little Diagnosis 101 first might shed some light: - has this task run successfully previously ?. If so, what changed. (no, nothing should not be accepted) - what size *private* area is available (search for Mark Zelden IPLINFO exec) - what's

Deleting multiple data sets

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Often, after finishing a series of tests, I have several dozen data sets to delete. Actually, I'm careless; often I don't delete them until the next time I want to run similar tests, by which time most are migrated. Over the years, I've used several techniques: o Use TSO DELETE in an IKJEFT*

Re: Deleting multiple data sets

2014-02-20 Thread Mike Schwab
HDEL in front of each dataset name, instead of D. Type HDEL on the first one, = on the rest. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Often, after finishing a series of tests, I have several dozen data sets to delete. Actually, I'm careless; often I don't

Re: Deleting multiple data sets

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:17:46 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: HDEL in front of each dataset name, instead of D. Type HDEL on the first one, = on the rest. Some of them aren't migrated. But I could go back and get them later. Actually, I think DSLIST is smart enough to DTRT if I just type D. (But I

Re: Deleting multiple data sets

2014-02-20 Thread Anthony Thompson
DF/DSS can be useful for deleting datasets, with all its filtering capabilities on dataset attributes as well as dataset name... INCLUDE / EXCLUDE / BY Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Friday,

Re: Deleting multiple data sets

2014-02-20 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:31:15 +0930, Anthony Thompson wrote: DF/DSS can be useful for deleting datasets, with all its filtering capabilities on dataset attributes as well as dataset name... INCLUDE / EXCLUDE / BY And just imagine if IDCAMS DELETE had full regex (PCRE even) support rather than

Re: Below the Line Storage Allocation

2014-02-20 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Ran this utility extensively on our system, 3000+ load modules. Had REGION=128M coded. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: Some find ploughing through dumps intimidating - a little Diagnosis 101 first might shed some light: - has this task run