OT/IBM promises mainframes on tap as SoftLayer lands on London

2014-07-01 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/30/ ibm_promises_mainframes_on_tap_softlayer_lands_on_london/ Retro computing fans will be thrilled to hear IBM is working on floating mainframe platforms onto the cloud even as its pours cash into the rollout of its SoftLayer offering which will hit

SMPE or binder estimates

2014-07-01 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi The IBM software support is trying to install some PTF's into our system, and all the possible system libraries are small (NUCLEUS LINKLIB MIGLIB etc ) Now it is in a realloc/copy/rename phase. Any method to avoid this ? SMPE or the binder could make some estimates about the updated

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-07-01 Thread Rob Scott
Charles, Just out of curiosity, are you trying to judge your own software's use of common storage or are you trying to assess if a vendor's use of common storage is too high? Both are, of course, very worthwhile tasks. If it is your own software, then the sort of non-optimal use of common

AW: Re: ECSA Survey

2014-07-01 Thread Peter Hunkeler
[snip] ... but they are not an adequate substitute for more extended, proper documentation that provides appropriate usage examples. Aren't the migration redbooks just one good source of information about new features? z/OS Version 1 Release 10 Implementation dedicates a complete chapter to

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-07-01 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 06/30/14 16:34, Charles Mills wrote: Thanks a lot for hijacking my thread, guys. g Is there however not one active sysprog out there willing to say we have ___ MB of ECSA serving about address spaces, and frankly, I think KB/MB would be a borderline unreasonable amount of pageable

Re: IKJPOSIT question

2014-07-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cae1xxdedr10noqbl-qfp-s54z34hpzjxjchlvqz8tk0vowj...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/30/2014 at 11:19 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said: Positional and keyword arguments may be freely interspersed in macro instructions. K3wl, but what is under discussion here is the order of TSO parameters in

Re: IKJPOSIT question

2014-07-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of74e1b14a.83f8d689-on88257d07.0057ca48-88257d07.0059b...@sce.com, on 06/30/2014 at 09:19 AM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said: Rexx does not have all three types parameters, I believe that the Rexx-callable routine that you're thinking of is XPARSE; I don't recall the author.

(W/RO) to submit commands

2014-07-01 Thread Alex Wang
Hi folks, Is there anyone who knows this way (W/RO) to submit commands via a job? For example: //STEP1EXEC PGM=SDSF //ISFOUT DD SYSOUT=* //ISFIN DD * W/RO PT11,-PB12 STA DB2 W/RO PT12,-PB22 STA DB2 W/RO PT13,-PB32 STA DB2 W/RO PT14,-PB42 STA DB2 I know RO(ROUTE) command means to

Re: AW: Re: ECSA Survey

2014-07-01 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 13:01:46 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote: [snip] ... but they are not an adequate substitute for more extended, proper documentation that provides appropriate usage examples. Aren't the migration redbooks just one good source of information about new features? z/OS Version 1

AW: (W/RO) to submit commands

2014-07-01 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Section about JES and MVS commands in the online help explains the w: It asks SDSF to wait for the full delay interval before messages are displayed. The interval being specified via SET DELAY. HTH-- Peter Hunkeler -- For

64-bit Common (Was: ECSA Survey)

2014-07-01 Thread Peter Relson
I know dataspaces have to be attached. To paraphrase, it's what we know but that isn't true that causes problems. Data spaces are unrelated to 64-bit storage (private or common). I need to allocate 64bit storage that's not attached to a TCB, much like sp 231 IS ... See the OWNER keyword on the

Re: (W/RO) to submit commands

2014-07-01 Thread Sri h Kolusu
But why is there a W in front of the RO? What does it stand for and any meaning? Just a wild guess that W is for WAIT which specifies that SDSF should wait the full delay interval before retrieving responses. This option is strongly recommended to ensure the responses are accessible in the

Re: (W/RO) to submit commands

2014-07-01 Thread Jousma, David
From the help panel Format: (W)|(I)/(command) (+) - / with no command displays the system command extension pop-up, primed with the text of the previous slash

TASID Snapshot File

2014-07-01 Thread George Rodriguez
I've already sent an email to i...@us.ibm.com about this, but I was hoping someone from the LIST-L could point me in the right direction. The Userid.TASID.SNAPSHOT file is allocating in kilobytes and it's reaching it's 16 extent limit. How do I make it bigger? Thanks in advance! *George

Re: TASID Snapshot File

2014-07-01 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 07/01/14 14:28, George Rodriguez wrote: I've already sent an email to i...@us.ibm.com about this, but I was hoping someone from the LIST-L could point me in the right direction. The Userid.TASID.SNAPSHOT file is allocating in kilobytes and it's reaching it's 16 extent limit. How do I make it

Re: TASID Snapshot File

2014-07-01 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/OCIO/ITSO) (CTR)
I believe that we did it in our Logon PROC CLIST. But SMS would also work if you setup a DATACLAS for this file. Todd Burrell, PMP, ITIL Expert, CISSP | Project Manager | ITSO AHB | Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Contractor - HP Enterprise Services | 1600 Clifton Rd,

copy omiting blank lines

2014-07-01 Thread Frank Swarbrick
We have a file that is uploaded in to a VB sequential file.  We then copy it to a KSDS.  The input file should be in key order (first 9 bytes), but lately its been created (not sure how at this time!) occasionally with blank lines.  I'm thinking to use DFSORT to omit the blank lines (lines with

Re: copy omiting blank lines

2014-07-01 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Frank, You can use the following DFSORT control cards to omit records with short length then the key length of 13. (9 + 4 bytes RDW) //SYSINDD * OPTION VLSCMP,VLSHRT OMIT COND=(1,2,BI,LE,13) SORT FIELDS=(5,9,CH,A) //* Further if you have any questions please let me know Thanks,

Re: 64-bit Common (Was: ECSA Survey)

2014-07-01 Thread Scott Ford
Peter: I was referring to how we use SP231. If I read correctly dataspaces are associated with address spaces. If the address allocating, using the dataspace ends/terminates, that dataspace is gone ? Is this not true I want to make sure I understand it correctly Regards, Scott From:

Re: TASID Snapshot File

2014-07-01 Thread George Rodriguez
I assigned the SMS dataclass but it's not changing the allocation... When I do an S from DSLIST it does come up with the dataclass that I assigned, but the other info remains unchanged... Any other ideas? On Tuesday, July 1, 2014, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com wrote: On 07/01/14 14:28,

Re: TASID Snapshot File

2014-07-01 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 15:38:31 -0400, George Rodriguez wrote: I assigned the SMS dataclass but it's not changing the allocation... When I do an S from DSLIST it does come up with the dataclass that I assigned, but the other info remains unchanged... Any other ideas? Preallocate ddname TASIDSNP?

Re: copy omiting blank lines

2014-07-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:42:46 -0700, Frank Swarbrick wrote: We have a file that is uploaded in to a VB sequential file.� We then copy it to a KSDS.� The input file should be in key order (first 9 bytes), but lately its been created (not sure how at this time!) occasionally with blank lines.� I'm

Re: copy omiting blank lines

2014-07-01 Thread Frank Swarbrick
That works!  Don't even need the VLSCMP,VLSHRT options because you're just looking at the first two bytes.  Didn't even occur to me to do this to look at the record length.  Thanks! Frank From: Sri h Kolusu skol...@us.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-07-01 Thread Charles Mills
I promised to summarize results here. Here you go. Hope this formats adequately. All storage quantities are in MB. A/S is address spaces; CSA/AS is ECSA to address space ratio (MB/address space). Threshold is whatever was stated about what ECSA requirement would make you raise your eyebrows? The

Re: copy omiting blank lines

2014-07-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 14:26:39 -0700, Frank Swarbrick wrote: That works!� Don't even need the VLSCMP,VLSHRT options because you're just looking at the first two bytes.� Didn't even occur to me to do this to look at the record length.� Thanks! Depends on how you want to deal with trailing blanks.

Re: TASID Snapshot File

2014-07-01 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 07/01/2014 03:33 PM, Norbert Friemel wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 15:38:31 -0400, George Rodriguez wrote: I assigned the SMS dataclass but it's not changing the allocation... When I do an S from DSLIST it does come up with the dataclass that I assigned, but the other info remains unchanged...

Re: TASID Snapshot File

2014-07-01 Thread retired mainframer
Any values provided by whoever is doing the allocation will override the values specified in the dataclass. :: -Original Message- :: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :: Behalf Of George Rodriguez :: Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:39 PM :: To:

Re: AW: Re: ECSA Survey

2014-07-01 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/1/2014 5:13 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote: Modern kids ;) Peter I love your insights, but this was (historically) royally fucked up.. When I started looking at (64-bit) object allocation in OS/390 2.10 there was no doco, let alone migration assistance. The ISV monitors were scrabbling

Re: TASID Snapshot File

2014-07-01 Thread Hank Oerlemans
That panel should have been cleaned up when ASIDSETL was done. Those fields don't affect the snap file. Preallocating TASIDSNP is the way to go.. Cheers Hank Who No Longer Looks After Tasid. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: (W/RO) to submit commands

2014-07-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9622977724152956.wa.szwangxdgmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/01/2014 at 06:55 AM, Alex Wang szwan...@gmail.com said: Is there anyone who knows this way (W/RO) to submit commands via a job? By this way do you mean SDSF? That's certainly a way, and it might even be the easiest way at your

Re: (W/RO) to submit commands

2014-07-01 Thread Jon Perryman
If you omit the W (wait), then the response may not appear in the job's output.  1. Route command may have receiving an end of message before the actual command response is received. 2. Routing commands can take time for the other system to respond. 3. Starting DB2 has multiple single line