Fw: Question for RDT system users - message issuance

2015-06-11 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
CNZ4200I CONSOLE L700 HAS FAILED. REASON=IOERR
From that point forward, we did not get any IEF403I or IEF404I messages anymore

To answer my own question: The console has MONITOR-L set in consolxx, and there 
was no setcon mn,jobnames=on issued anywhere (this is an ADCD system, after 
all!). I haven't tested this yet, but it appears that not issuing the SETCON MN 
command is responsible for IEF403I/404I getting tied to the availability of a 
console.

Barbara

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Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread Jorge Garcia
Hello:

 We are involved in a new proyect with the target of add three new system 
(monoplex) in our configuration. Our actual configuration is: one production 
sysplex with four lpar, one test sysplex with two lpars and next year another 
three systems in monoplex. Now, when we activate a new configuration, first 
build IOCDS, dynamic activation in the production sysplex and then execute a 
ipl in the test systems (the IODF device is the same). The test sysplex doesn't 
share GRS with the production sysplex and the test systems can't view the IODF 
dataset, but the test systems load the IODF in ipl time and works fine.
Next year we want to share the same IODF all the systems, but in the new 
systems in monoplex can't do ipl because are production systems. 
Our question is. Which is the best way for transmit the production IODF to 
these new systems and then execute a dynamic activation?. HCD transmit?. FTP?. 
Another way?. 

Jorge Garcia Juanino
Gerente sistemas z/OS
ACTP – DIAC – Operación y Soporte EMEA
MAPFRE 
Avenida del Talgo 100-103 – 3ª Planta
CP 28023 Madrid
Tel. 91 581 27 34, Movil 464196/618333559 
jgarc...@mapfre.com

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Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Jorge, I'm not fully understanding why you don't want to use one shared IODF, 
as you do today. Is it because you want to be able to do dynamic activates in 
these production systems (and don't today in your test system)?

We put our IODFs on one dedicated volume with its own catalog. The volume and 
catalog are online to all systems, even though they're not all in one GRS 
entity (they're 3 different sysplexes with 28 different LPARs). The IODFs and 
the catalog are the only datasets on the volume and the catalog is used only 
for the IODFs. IODF Changes are dynamically activated across all environment. 
Some RNL excludes are needed for the volume, datasets and catalog. 

It's not a setup I would use for actively shared data, but it works fine for 
the occasional IODF update. 

Bart

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Subject: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

Hello:

 We are involved in a new proyect with the target of add three new system 
(monoplex) in our configuration. Our actual configuration is: one production 
sysplex with four lpar, one test sysplex with two lpars and next year another 
three systems in monoplex. Now, when we activate a new configuration, first 
build IOCDS, dynamic activation in the production sysplex and then execute a 
ipl in the test systems (the IODF device is the same). The test sysplex doesn't 
share GRS with the production sysplex and the test systems can't view the IODF 
dataset, but the test systems load the IODF in ipl time and works fine.
Next year we want to share the same IODF all the systems, but in the new 
systems in monoplex can't do ipl because are production systems. 
Our question is. Which is the best way for transmit the production IODF to 
these new systems and then execute a dynamic activation?. HCD transmit?. FTP?. 
Another way?. 

Jorge Garcia Juanino
Gerente sistemas z/OS
ACTP – DIAC – Operación y Soporte EMEA
MAPFRE 
Avenida del Talgo 100-103 – 3ª Planta
CP 28023 Madrid
Tel. 91 581 27 34, Movil 464196/618333559 
jgarc...@mapfre.com

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Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Hi Jorge. The IODF must be *catalogued* on each system, but it doesn't have to 
be in the same catalog. 

I prefer HCD Export to transmit the IODF to the other system then HCD import 
it. You can also repro it to a flat file, ftp that, then repro it back out on 
the other system. Here's my batch export jcl. 

//EXPORT   EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//HCDIODFS DD   DSN=MAM.IODFA0,DISP=SHR
//HCDMLOG  DD   DSN=MAM.HCD.MSGLOG,DISP=OLD
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *
 CALL 'SYS1.LINKLIB(CBDMGHCP)',  +
 'EXPORT,MAM,TND'

MA

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote:

 I've seen s/he used to cover both genders.
​Well, being computer professionals, despite not being of the UNIX variety, 
perhaps we use use the regular expression: s?he​

​(the ? means repeat 0 or 1 times aka optional). Unless we post in the 
ISPF forum whereupon it becomes r's?sh' to match PDF EDIT's specification of a 
regular expression.​

So, you and me are zero or optional, because we're males? ;-)

Should r's?sh' not be r's?she'? Or am I missing something optional? 


Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be.

Hehehe, resist, I will not, your good signature lines. ;-)

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Who is issuing debug messages in FTP job?

2015-06-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Leonard Sasso wrote:

Could you please provide the FTP script?

Sure, here is it, four lines:

(All values are masked / censored, first line is a valid IP4 address. Port 
number left to default.)

?.?.?.?
id
psw
PUT 'dataset name' P20150611.TXT  

Same set of script with different filename was used successfully in April 2015.

Many thanks in advance!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

 John McKown wrote:

  I've seen s/he used to cover both genders.
 ​Well, being computer professionals, despite not being of the UNIX
 variety, perhaps we use use the regular expression: s?he​

 ​(the ? means repeat 0 or 1 times aka optional). Unless we post in
 the ISPF forum whereupon it becomes r's?sh' to match PDF EDIT's
 specification of a regular expression.​

 So, you and me are zero or optional, because we're males? ;-)


​The s is optional, not the he. I guess the real regexp should be
\bs?he\b . \b matches, but does not consume, a word separator character.
So, that would be word separator, followed by an optional s, followed
by he, followed by a word_separator.​




 Should r's?sh' not be r's?she'? Or am I missing something optional?


​Typo on my part: r's?he'​





 Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will
 be.

 Hehehe, resist, I will not, your good signature lines. ;-)

 Groete / Greetings
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Re: OT STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
‎A common choice, at least in Canada, is to use the plural pro-noun, since, in 
English, it in gender neutral.

It's difficult to get used to, at first.

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-teD
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  Original Message  
From: Elardus Engelbrecht
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:46
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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Subject: Re: STCK question

John McKown wrote:

 I've seen s/he used to cover both genders.
​Well, being computer professionals, despite not being of the UNIX variety, 
perhaps we use use the regular expression: s?he​

​(the ? means repeat 0 or 1 times aka optional). Unless we post in the 
ISPF forum whereupon it becomes r's?sh' to match PDF EDIT's specification of a 
regular expression.​

So, you and me are zero or optional, because we're males? ;-)

Should r's?sh' not be r's?she'? Or am I missing something optional? 


Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be.

Hehehe, resist, I will not, your good signature lines. ;-)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Who is issuing debug messages in FTP job?

2015-06-11 Thread Leonard Sasso
Could you please provide the FTP script?




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From:   Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   06/11/2015 10:06 AM
Subject:Who is issuing debug messages in FTP job?
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Hi to all

I have been asked to help solve this problem.

Same FTP batch job was working fine last time in April 2015, but now the 
client wants to use it today again to transfer a file from z/OS to their 
client. z/OS 1.13. I'm waiting for reply on what server and FTP software 
they're using. Also I'm waiting for the status of the id at their remote 
server.

We have activated DEBUG ALL on batch job SYSFTPD. Batchjob ran with 
PARM='-a TLS (EXIT=00'

Only lines in SYSIN are IP(4) address, id, psw and then one PUT statement. 
Nothing strange or odd in this one. Network problems have been isolated, 
unless our TCP/IP team missed something.

My question is - who or what (server or client) is issuing these debug 
messages starting with EP, CU, CX, SC, CZ? 

Google does gave some hits, but nothing specific to these messages, 
especially this one puzzling message starting with CU0701.

EP2413 set_dbcs_langs: entered  
EP2425 set_dbcs_langs: __ipdbcs() returned 0 parms from LOADDBCSTABLES 
statement
EZA1450I IBM FTP CS V1R13  
EZA1466I FTP: using TCPIP  
EZA1772I FTP: EXIT has been set.  
CU0372 getCommand: entered  
EZA1456I Connect to ?  
CU0701 SETCEC code = 13  
CX0362 main: input EOF without a QUIT  
SC3868 getLastReply: entered  
CX0383 main: RC=-0001 cmd_in_progress=00  
CX0386 main: last_reply= err=13  
EZA1736I QUIT generated by unexpected end of file  
CZ1270 ftpQuit: entered  
CZ1342 ftpClose: entered  
SC3916 inSession: entered  
SC3994 setLoggedIn: entered  
CZ1342 ftpClose: entered  
SC3916 inSession: entered  
SC3994 setLoggedIn: entered  
CX0516 removeAff: entered 

This above snippet is from the problem FTP batch job which ran on our z/OS 
1.13. I have verified in RACF the id and validity of the Digital 
Certificate, ran RACF and SMF audits on that id, job, etc. Nothing odd 
found at all.

If any of you could be kind to tell me, I can then further find out where 
any changes where applied since April 2015 whether by PTF or server 
upgrade/changes.

Many thanks in advance!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: AT-TLS config help

2015-06-11 Thread Scott Ford
Andrew:

I know I  missed something..so I appreciate the help

SyslogD:

//*
//CONFPDS EXEC PGM=SYSLOGD,REGION=30M,TIME=NOLIMIT,
//PARM='POSIX(ON) ALL31(ON)/'
Comments

//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD DUMMY
//SYSERR   DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=*
//CEEDUMP  DD SYSOUT=*

 EDIT   /ADCD113S/etc/syslog.conf   Columns 1
00072
 ** * Top of Data
**
 01 *.* /tmp/syslogd.log
 02 daemon.debug  /tmp/daemon.trace
 **  Bottom of Data



 Pagent:

//PAGENT   PROC
//*
comments.
//STDENV   DD PATH='/etc/pagent.env',PATHOPTS=(ORDONLY)
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=*


  ** * Top of Data
**
 01 PAGENT_CONFIG_FILE=/etc/pagent.conf
 02 PAGENT_LOG_FILE=/etc/pagent.log
 03 PAGENT_LOG_CONTROL=3000,2
 04 TZ=EST5EDTC
 **  Bottom of Data


  EDIT   /ADCD113S/etc/pagent.conf   Columns 1
00072
 ** * Top of Data
**
 01 TTLSConfig /etc/pagent.ttls.conf FLUSH
 02 LogLevel 511
 **  Bottom of Data



Regards,
Scott

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Andrew Armstrong 
androidarmstr...@gmail.com wrote:

 If Pioneer is the server then I think you should code HandShakeRole
 Server.

 As for tracing, how have you configured your syslogd?

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Who is issuing debug messages in FTP job?

2015-06-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Hi to all

I have been asked to help solve this problem.

Same FTP batch job was working fine last time in April 2015, but now the client 
wants to use it today again to transfer a file from z/OS to their client. z/OS 
1.13. I'm waiting for reply on what server and FTP software they're using. Also 
I'm waiting for the status of the id at their remote server.

We have activated DEBUG ALL on batch job SYSFTPD. Batchjob ran with PARM='-a 
TLS (EXIT=00'

Only lines in SYSIN are IP(4) address, id, psw and then one PUT statement. 
Nothing strange or odd in this one. Network problems have been isolated, unless 
our TCP/IP team missed something.

My question is - who or what (server or client) is issuing these debug messages 
starting with EP, CU, CX, SC, CZ? 

Google does gave some hits, but nothing specific to these messages, especially 
this one puzzling message starting with CU0701.

EP2413 set_dbcs_langs: entered  
EP2425 set_dbcs_langs: __ipdbcs() returned 0 parms from LOADDBCSTABLES statement
EZA1450I IBM FTP CS V1R13   
EZA1466I FTP: using TCPIP  
EZA1772I FTP: EXIT has been set.
CU0372 getCommand: entered  
EZA1456I Connect to ?   
CU0701 SETCEC code = 13 
CX0362 main: input EOF without a QUIT   
SC3868 getLastReply: entered
CX0383 main: RC=-0001 cmd_in_progress=00
CX0386 main: last_reply= err=13 
EZA1736I QUIT generated by unexpected end of file   
CZ1270 ftpQuit: entered 
CZ1342 ftpClose: entered
SC3916 inSession: entered   
SC3994 setLoggedIn: entered 
CZ1342 ftpClose: entered
SC3916 inSession: entered   
SC3994 setLoggedIn: entered 
CX0516 removeAff: entered  

This above snippet is from the problem FTP batch job which ran on our z/OS 
1.13. I have verified in RACF the id and validity of the Digital Certificate, 
ran RACF and SMF audits on that id, job, etc. Nothing odd found at all.

If any of you could be kind to tell me, I can then further find out where any 
changes where applied since April 2015 whether by PTF or server upgrade/changes.

Many thanks in advance!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5670874248161270.wa.jgarci12mapfre@listserv.ua.edu, on
06/11/2015
   at 08:20 AM, Jorge Garcia jgarc...@mapfre.com said:

Yes. Our target is to do dynamic activation in the new systems. We've
seen in the Redbook HCD and Dynamic I/O reconfiguration it's not
possible if you don't share the iodf user catalog.

What gives you that idea? BTDT,GTTS.
 
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Hillgang - 17 June

2015-06-11 Thread Neale Ferguson
A reminder that the next Hillgang meeting (z/VM and Linux on z User Group
for the VA/MD/DC area) will be held on 17th June at the CA offices in
Herndon. The agenda is available at
http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/HILL0615.PDF.

We have also added a brief *technical* introduction of a new security
offering for Linux on z:

The Centrify Suite for Linux on IBM System z centrally manages
identities, access policies and role-based entitlements for fine-grained
control of user access and privileges using Microsoft Active Directory.
The net result is increased security, improved compliance and
comprehensive reporting and auditing.”

Please follow the registration instructions in the flier so we can
estimate catering requirements.

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Re: QUESTION ABOUT SPACE ABEND

2015-06-11 Thread Kjell Holmborg
A long time ago I did some searching on this.

The actual diagnose code is in the message:
B37-04,IFG0554A,OBGXM272,SORTPD2,SORTOUT,291D,APB033,04210010 --- this one

It can be found here: 
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSLTBW_1.13.0/com.ibm.zos.r13.idar100/dexdc.htm%23dexdc

Table 41. DADSM Extend Diagnostic Information

04210010 = File is greater than 4369 cylinders (65534 tracks) on a single 
volume.
04210011 = Size of file is greater than volume size
...

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Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread Jorge Garcia
Hello Bart:

 Yes. Our target is to do dynamic activation in the new systems. We've seen in 
the Redbook HCD and Dynamic I/O reconfiguration it's not possible if you don't 
share the iodf user catalog. It's mandatory has the same HLQ in all systems and 
the only way is share a user catalog like you say. We'll create a new iodf user 
catalog in a volume used in all systems and with the same HLQ. With this 
configuration we'll be able to do dynamic activacion in all sysplex.

Regards

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com
wrote:

 At 01:14 -0400 on 06/11/2015, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re:
 STCK question:

   And assuming that Janet is a he.

 Or that you accept the gender neutral pronoun he, which has been
 around for centuries.


 I've seen s/he used to cover both genders.


​Well, being computer professionals, despite not being of the UNIX variety,
perhaps we use use the regular expression: s?he​

​(the ? means repeat 0 or 1 times aka optional). Unless we post in the
ISPF forum whereupon it becomes r's?sh' to match PDF EDIT's specification
of a regular expression.​

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seashore.
If someone tell you that nothing is impossible:
Ask him to dribble a football.

He's about as useful as a wax frying pan.

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread David Crayford
That's a great write up by Tony. The only thing missing is assembler 
code snippets ;)


On 9/06/2015 4:26 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:

I'm not sure if your question is mostly a technical how-to, or more
about output formats. Seems to me there is a decision to be made about
whether you want to display a single decimal number, perhaps with a
decimal point, or a number in mixed-base format such as hours,
minutes, seconds, fraction. Both are common, and it's not uncommon to
change the format on the fly depending on the value of the data.
Neither is hard to implement, so I'd spend the time on making the
output clear and easy to understand at a glance.

Your examples have these values in decimal seconds (truncated to the
microsecond):

0.401559
0.073935

so just showing them that way might be quite reasonable. You'd want to
identify the units, so perhaps along the lines you suggest:

Your procedure took 0.401559 seconds.
Your procedure took 0.073935 seconds.

If you have mostly smaller numbers, you could make the base unit, say,
milliseconds:

Your procedure took 401.1559 milliseconds.
or
Your procedure took 73.935 mS.

On the other hand, particularly if your values might occasionally go
over a minute, (or an hour or a day!), you might prefer

Your procedure took 00:01:02.345678 (hh:mm:ss.ss)
or even
Your procedure took 1 Min 2.345678 Sec

If your numbers are rarely over a handful of seconds, I think the
single decimal number of seconds is the best bet; clear and
unambiguous. And you don't have to muck with mixed-base conversion. As
others have said, if microsecond precision is good enough -- which it
surely is when showing elapsed rather than CPU time -- all you need to
do to implement this is SR[D]L 12 bits and then CVD + ED (or EDMK)
instructions. Examples in Principles of Operation, Appendix A, or
someone here will doubtless be happy to provide one.

Tony H.


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Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Jorge Garcia jgarc...@mapfre.com wrote:

 Hello Bart:

  Yes. Our target is to do dynamic activation in the new systems. We've
 seen in the Redbook HCD and Dynamic I/O reconfiguration it's not possible
 if you don't share the iodf user catalog. It's mandatory has the same HLQ
 in all systems and the only way is share a user catalog like you say. We'll
 create a new iodf user catalog in a volume used in all systems and with the
 same HLQ. With this configuration we'll be able to do dynamic activacion in
 all sysplex.

 Regards


There are ways around the shared catalog requirement.

​What is actually required to do a dynamic activate is that the token in
the active IODF in the system matches​ the token in the HSA. The HSA values
were, at least initially, loaded from the IOCDS on the SE during a POR.
Given that the IODF is just a VSAM LDS, you could do a number of things.
The simplest is to make the IODF high level qualifer be 'SYS1'. There is
special code in DFSMSdfp which allows you to catalog a VSAM data set which
has an HLQ of SYS1 into multiple master catalogs. So you could create
your IODF on a shared DASD volume with the HLQ of SYS1. and then do a
DEFINE ... RECATALOG in all the other systems' master catalog(s).

Another way would be to create the initial IODF as you normally do. The use
IDCAMS to REPRO that IODF to a sequential data set on shared DASD. You can
the do a DEFINE to create a new VSAM LDS with _any_ name you like on any
other system. You then REPRO the data from the sequential unload into the
new IODF data sets. You IPL the new z/OS image using this new IODF. You
could then modify the IODF on that 2nd system, creating a new IODF, and do
a dynamic ACTIVATE on the 2nd system. Of course, you need to copy the data
back the other way.

The SYS1 method is the better of the two. The problem with sharing, in your
case, is the fact that not all the systems are in the same sysplex. This
makes sharing dangerous if you don't take _extreme_ care. IMO, in this
case, you'd need to put your IODF on a shared, non-SMS, volume and not
convert specific QNAME based RESERVEs to SYSTEMS level ENQs. Or you'd need
to use CA-MIM and put every system into the same MIMPLEX. This is also a
bit hairy to do properly.

As Shmuel indicated: Been There. Done That. Got The Scars.

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IBM mainframe operations in the 80s

2015-06-11 Thread David Crayford
This is a nice bit of nostalgia as I started my career as an Op back in 
the 80's.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwj6pfhWBps

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 01:14 -0400 on 06/11/2015, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about 
Re: STCK question:



 And assuming that Janet is a he.

Or that you accept the gender neutral pronoun he, which has been
around for centuries.


I've seen s/he used to cover both genders.

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Re: AT-TLS config help

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Armstrong
If Pioneer is the server then I think you should code HandShakeRole
  Server.

As for tracing, how have you configured your syslogd?

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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:16:49 -0400, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote:

Several of the 3270 emulators had a user option for transfer mechanism  
IND$FILE or FTP. Some had better implementations that others.

And the OP should be aware that it is theoretically possible for a TSO user to 
write his own program (or acquire one elsewhere) that will do data transfers 
via the 3270 data stream, or even to make a copy of IND$FILE and change its 
name to something else if that name is being specifically monitored.

Also, monitoring IND$FILE won't stop other mechanisms such as those based on 
screen printing, or TCP/IP communication protocols.

People asking for such monitoring often, in my experience, do not realize the 
other possibilities for data communication. Really, what they should do is 
completely prevent the user from reading the sensitive data. If you let a user 
READ the data and give him access to a TSO or a UNIX session, then you should 
assume that he will be able to transport it elsewhere without your knowledge. 
If you don't want him to be able to do that, you shouldn't let him read the 
data. Monitoring certain easy to use transport mechanisms is OK, but it will 
not catch all the other mechanisms you haven't thought about.

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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Bob Rutledge

On 6/11/2015 3:58 PM, John McKown wrote:

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

...

That won't catch file transfers from an FTP command in a 3270 session.



​I'm a tad confused by this statement. The only file transfer that I am
aware of over a 3270 data stream is via IND$FILE. Is there some other? ​In
many (most?) cases, when somebody uses ftp by itself, I think of the one
for TCP/IP. I am aware that there are other ways to transfer files, such as
NJE and AFTP. I guess that my assumption was that the emulator in question
in from commands given on emulators was a 3270 emulator.


Some TN3270 emulators, WRQ is one, contain FTP client code that they optionally 
use instead of IND$FILE for data transport.


Bob

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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Ed Finnell
Several of the 3270 emulators had a user option for transfer mechanism  
IND$FILE or FTP. Some had better implementations that others.
 
 
In a message dated 6/11/2015 2:58:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com writes:

​I'm a  tad confused by this statement. The only file transfer that I am
aware of  over a 3270 data stream is via IND$FILE. Is there some other? ​In
many  (most?) cases, when somebody uses ftp by itself, I think of the one
for  TCP/IP. I am aware that there are other ways to transfer files, such as
NJE  and AFTP. I guess that my assumption was that the emulator in question
in  from commands given on emulators was a 3270  emulator.


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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:16:49 -0400, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote:

 Several of the 3270 emulators had a user option for transfer mechanism
 IND$FILE or FTP. Some had better implementations that others.

 And the OP should be aware that it is theoretically possible for a TSO
 user to write his own program (or acquire one elsewhere) that will do data
 transfers via the 3270 data stream, or even to make a copy of IND$FILE and
 change its name to something else if that name is being specifically
 monitored.

 Also, monitoring IND$FILE won't stop other mechanisms such as those based
 on screen printing, or TCP/IP communication protocols.

 People asking for such monitoring often, in my experience, do not realize
 the other possibilities for data communication. Really, what they should do
 is completely prevent the user from reading the sensitive data. If you let
 a user READ the data and give him access to a TSO or a UNIX session, then
 you should assume that he will be able to transport it elsewhere without
 your knowledge. If you don't want him to be able to do that, you shouldn't
 let him read the data. Monitoring certain easy to use transport mechanisms
 is OK, but it will not catch all the other mechanisms you haven't thought
 about.

 --
 Walt


​As you, and others have said, to be able to READ is to be able to copy
(aka steal) the data. In my case, the IND$FILE front end was done for two
reason. The first was for performance (compare the start vs. end times) and
some auditing (how much is it used?). The second, the non-swappable, was
due to CPU overload at the time causing timeouts on the PC end. IND$FILE
was being used to transfer data even before we had a TCPIP stack on z/OS.
Back them, the 3270 emulation was being done on a Cisco CIP which looked
like a 3174 to z/OS.​


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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Bob Rutledge deerh...@ix.netcom.com
wrote:

 On 6/11/2015 3:58 PM, John McKown wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
 shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

 ...

 That won't catch file transfers from an FTP command in a 3270 session.


 ​I'm a tad confused by this statement. The only file transfer that I am
 aware of over a 3270 data stream is via IND$FILE. Is there some other? ​In
 many (most?) cases, when somebody uses ftp by itself, I think of the one
 for TCP/IP. I am aware that there are other ways to transfer files, such
 as
 NJE and AFTP. I guess that my assumption was that the emulator in question
 in from commands given on emulators was a 3270 emulator.


 Some TN3270 emulators, WRQ is one, contain FTP client code that they
 optionally use instead of IND$FILE for data transport.


​Oh, I think I get it. The ftp is not done via the 3270 data stream. It is
just an easier way to do a normal TCP/IP type ftp than bringing up a
command prompt. Maybe a bit like having FileZilla.​




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Re: IBM mainframe operations in the 80s

2015-06-11 Thread Vince Coen

On 11/06/15 20:30, Ken Hume IBM wrote:

So, the shoot coordinator goes off and finds three or four young,
attractive women that were well dressed and brings them into the
computer room. Most of them had no idea what a computer was. All of them
complained that the room was to cold and did not want to stay in there.

We had a good laugh and the publication looked pretty good as well.

Ahh.. The old days...




Referring to tight nipples ?


Vince

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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks everyone for all of your comments. Let me try to address everything at 
once so as to avoid mailbox clutter.

@John McKown: Yes, to be able to read is ultimately to be able to steal, but we 
want to make it harder for the bad guys. The example I use in presentations is 
the person who has access to the customer list dataset for query purposes. 
Management would like to know if they were downloading the whole file to their 
PC every night.

Thanks also for the kind words. We'd like to think it's good solution. We are 
in contact with the OP. I suspect your price is better but our support is 
probably better. g

@Walt Farrell, right. Fairly simply, if I can browse a (printable character) 
file in ISPF, I can cut and paste it into a file. It would be difficult for a 
many-megabyte file, and it is more likely that someone would use IND$FILE (or 
another tool such as FTP).

@Ed Finnell: I was not aware that some emulators had a built-in FTP capability. 
Makes sense, though. That would be great: FTP is a lot more powerful and writes 
GREAT audit records. Some emulators do not have this capability, including, 
apparently, the emulators in use at several large customers who seem to be 
interested in this capability.

File transfers from an FTP command in a 3270 session might also be referring 
to typing TSO FTP 127.1.2.3 ... on the FTP command line to send a file here, 
there or anywhere.

@Shmuel Metz: True, it won't catch FTP transfers. FTP transfers are 
well-auditable via SMF 118/119, unlike IND$FILE. This list of things it won't 
catch is, after all, nearly infinite. 

Charles

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Re: QUESTION ABOUT RMM

2015-06-11 Thread Mike Wood
Willie,
As specified in the rmm IC Guide Chapter 16. Performing inventory management - 
You can backup direct to tape when using EDGHSKP utility BACKUP(DSS) parm.

Also, when you restore from tape, as long as you use EDGBKUP you will be able 
to use an rmm backup tape even if rmm is not active.

Mike

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Re: IBM mainframe operations in the 80s

2015-06-11 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.conmicro.com/apple-mstcons-web.jpg

Jay Maynard's unusual master console.

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Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all?

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Question for RDT system users - message issuance

2015-06-11 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
This is a question for those of you that run z/OS on an RDT system (presumably 
also those on a zPDT system), i.e. on emulated hardware.

Yesterday we had to restart the remote viewer (VNC) I use to login to Linux to 
start z/OS. Restarting VNC kills the console:
CNZ4200I CONSOLE L700 HAS FAILED. REASON=IOERR

From that point forward, we did not get any IEF403I or IEF404I messages 
anymore (which we noticed when we automatically scanned the hardcopy log 
during testing for exactly these messages). When I got the master console back 
this morning, both ief403i and ief404i miraculously started to reappear. I 
was/am completely unaware that there is a connection between the issuing of 
ief403/404 and the availability of a console to z/OS.

Has anyone else seen this on an RDT (zPDT) system? (RDT 8.5 with z/OS 1.13, I 
haven't gotten around to upgrading *that* box to 9.1 yet).

Barbara

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Janet,
This site seems helpful

http://csc.columbusstate.edu/woolbright/EDMK.HTM

Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Janet Graff
 Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:57 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: STCK question
 
 Ooh I am liking the ED instruction.  But I'm missing something.
 
 My pattern is this
 
 =XL15'20207A20207A20204B202020202020'
 
 My data is this
 
 =XL8'00308208'
 
 And the result I'm getting is this
 
 ' 308208'
 
 What I want is this
 
 '   0.308208'
 
 What can I do to the pattern mask to force the decimal point, and at the least
 the zeros between the decimal and the first significant digit, and maybe one
 zero before the decimal point?
 
 Janet
 

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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It was the TV show.

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From: Tony's Outlook via Mozilla
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 22:11
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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Subject: Re: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring

Not wishing to be a Black Hat and not wanting to think like a White Hat, 
let me don my Gray Hat. If I wanted to send a PDS member containing 
source code I'd simply email it. If it were large I'd mail it in pieces.

In the movie Mash, Corporal Radar O'Reilly send a Jeep from Korea to his 
home town in the U.S. in pieces, in small parcels.



On 6/11/2015 12:20 PM, Carlos Cordero wrote:
 Colleagues,

 Did somebody has implemented a process for monitor/log IND$FILE command 
 activity focussed on file transmission thru 3270 emulators?, maybe with 
 beta88 software?

 Or it must a home-made ad-hoc customization outside of beta88 software?

 What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer activity 
 executed from commands given on emulators.


 Many Thanks.




 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 05:59:55 -0400
 From: 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Volume consideration and migration for z / OS 2.1
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

 Lots of info here:
 http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/

 Couldn't get the Data Sheet to open(404) maybe it's being updated.



 In a message dated 6/6/2015 2:27:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
 justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:

 Any advise on the above would be appreciated.


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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
I *think* also you need to start your pattern with an X'40' first thing. That 
becomes the fill byte. I *think* that in your '___0.308208' you will find 
that the _ characters are currently actually x'20's, which is less than ideal.

Charles

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Janet Graff
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: STCK question

Ooh I am liking the ED instruction.  But I'm missing something.

My pattern is this

=XL15'20207A20207A20204B202020202020'

My data is this

=XL8'00308208'

And the result I'm getting is this

' 308208'

What I want is this

'   0.308208'

What can I do to the pattern mask to force the decimal point, and at the least 
the zeros between the decimal and the first significant digit, and maybe one 
zero before the decimal point?

Janet

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
And from another sample I found searching on EDIT MASK ASSEMBLER INSTRUCTION

To simplify maintenance of the program, I like to document the print masks by 
showing a character representation of the hex fields used in the mask. I use a 
B to indicate a blank as the leading fill character, a Z to indicate digit 
positions where leading zeroes will be suppressed, and a 9 to indicate digit 
positions where leading zeroes will not be suppressed. For example, I would  
document the print masks which we have used thus far as:
MASK DCX'4020202020202020'  BZZZ
MASK2  DCX'402020202020'BZ
MASK3  DCX'402020202120'B9
MASK4  DCX'402021204B2020'  BZZ9.99
MASK5  DCX'402021204B202060'BZZ9.99-
CR   DCX'402021204B2020C3D9'BZZ9.99CR   
DB  DCX'402021204B2020C4C2' BZZ9.99DB
CHKADCX'5C20206B2021204B2020'***,**9.99
CHKB DCX'5C2021204B2020'***9.99

Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Janet Graff
 Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:57 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: STCK question
 
 Ooh I am liking the ED instruction.  But I'm missing something.
 
 My pattern is this
 
 =XL15'20207A20207A20204B202020202020'
 
 My data is this
 
 =XL8'00308208'
 
 And the result I'm getting is this
 
 ' 308208'
 
 What I want is this
 
 '   0.308208'
 
 What can I do to the pattern mask to force the decimal point, and at the least
 the zeros between the decimal and the first significant digit, and maybe one
 zero before the decimal point?
 
 Janet
 

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Re: OT STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I don't know about politically correct.
But, it is recommended in the Canadian Press Book of Style.

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On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:47:39 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:

I use they all the time as the genderless pronoun. A supervisor
suggested he, I changed it to (s)he.
 
Of course, like all pronouns, it should assimilate its number, singular,
from its antecedent. A form both politically and gramatically correct is:

Everyone thinks they is being politically correct.

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Janet Graff
Ooh I am liking the ED instruction.  But I'm missing something.

My pattern is this

=XL15'20207A20207A20204B202020202020'

My data is this

=XL8'00308208'

And the result I'm getting is this

' 308208'

What I want is this

'   0.308208'

What can I do to the pattern mask to force the decimal point, and at the least 
the zeros between the decimal and the first significant digit, and maybe one 
zero before the decimal point?

Janet

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
Oh gosh, it has been about 20 years (literally) since I used ED but you need a 
significance starter -- x'21' -- to force it to format zeros and anything 
else that comes ahead of the first non-zero digit. Try sticking an X'21' into 
your pattern about where you want the first leading zero.

Charles

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Janet Graff
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: STCK question

Ooh I am liking the ED instruction.  But I'm missing something.

My pattern is this

=XL15'20207A20207A20204B202020202020'

My data is this

=XL8'00308208'

And the result I'm getting is this

' 308208'

What I want is this

'   0.308208'

What can I do to the pattern mask to force the decimal point, and at the least 
the zeros between the decimal and the first significant digit, and maybe one 
zero before the decimal point?

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Janet Graff
Thank you Charles, both were excellent suggestions that worked wonderfully!

Janet

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crossposted: z13 Configuration Setup

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
I really hope that people find this helpful and not irritating.

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248260.html?Open

abstract
Abstract

This IBM® Redbooks® publication helps you install, configure, and maintain
the IBM z13™. The z13 offers new functions that require a comprehensive
understanding of the available configuration options. This book presents
configuration setup scenarios, and describes implementation examples in
detail.

This publication is intended for systems engineers, hardware planners, and
anyone who needs to understand IBM z Systems™ configuration and
implementation. Readers should be generally familiar with current IBM z
Systems technology and terminology. For details about the functions of the
z13, see *IBM z13 Technical Introduction*, SG24-8250 and *IBM z13 Technical
Guide*, SG24-8251.
/abstract

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Re: DFSORT - How to select last 8 bytes in variable length records

2015-06-11 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Norbert,

Thanks for the explanation of the control cards but I do understand what 
they are doing. The extra space OP showed is just differentiate the output 
but I don't think it is really needed.

The other single pass job needed special/reserved characters not in the 
input data. This job allows all characters in the input data 
 (for lrecl  16k)

As you pointed out some of the solutions have limitations. In your case it 
is the LRECL limitation and in my case it is the special characters 
limitation. So given the available information, I try to come up with a 
solution and both of us are trying to help. 


IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 
06/10/2015 05:06:50 PM:

 From: Norbert Friemel nf.ibmm...@web.de
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date: 06/10/2015 05:07 PM
 Subject: Re: DFSORT - How to select last 8 bytes in variable length 
records
 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:57:33 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
 
 Norbert,
 
 As I mentioned earlier it can be done in single pass as shown earlier, 
I
 was just trying to optimize your Joinkeys job.  With your new job there 
a
 couple of issues
 
 1. I am not sure as to why you need to append C'40' (may be you meant
 X'40')
  2. With the append of C'40' your output LRECL is increased by 1.  ie. 
the
 output now has LRECL+8+1
 
 Quote from the first post in this thread:
 
  There is a input file of variable length records.
  I want to insert the last 8 bytes of a record to front of the record 
as
  following sample.
 
  Input file:
  RECORD01X11
  RECORD02Y2
  RECORD03ZCCC
  RECORD044A444
  RECORD0555B
 
  Output File I want to have:
   RECORD01X11
   RECORD02Y2
  ZCCC RECORD03ZCCC
   RECORD044A444
   RECORD0555B
 
  Record data before the last 8 bytes may contain x'00' thru x'FF',
  there is no specific delimiter character for parsing the last 8 bytes.
  The last 8 bytes is also binary.
 
 The output example shows the last 8 bytes of the input records in 
 col. 1-8 and a space on col. 9. The data from the input record 
 starts at col 10.
 I create the output record as a HEX string and convert it back in 
 the last step. That's why I append C'40' (it's converted to x'40' in
 the last BUILD-statement:
 1. BUILD=(1,4,5,HEX)) 
 converts the input record to hex
 2. OVERLAY=(5:hex_data,JFY=(SHIFT=RIGHT))) 
 shifts the hex string (inserts spaces to the left)
 3. BUILD=(1,4,key_start,16,C'40',hex_data,JFY=(SHIFT=LEFT))) 
 creates a record with the last 16 bytes of the hex string, a 
 hexified space (C'40') and the (hexified) input record shifted to 
 the left (spaces on the right)
 4. FINDREP=(IN=(C' '),OUT=C''))
 removes spaces (x'40' at the end of the record, not c'40' in col. 17/18)
 5. BUILD=(1,4,5,TRAN=UNHEX)) 
 converts to record to binary 
 
 The other single pass job needed special/reserved characters not in 
 the input data. This job allows all characters in the input data 
 (for lrecl  16k)
 
 3. I am not sure as to why you need to validate the RDW to remove the
 short records. JFY will pad up short records. So even if you records 
with
 lrecl less than 12 it will only pick the available characters.
 
 JFY pads the HEX string with spaces (x'40'). I thought that 
 converting this with TRAN=UNHEX adds (unwanted) x'00's to col. 1-8 
 of short records.  But that's not the case - FINDREP removes the 
 leading spaces. So yes, the RDW check could be removed.
 
 Norbert Friemel
 
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Re: Who is issuing debug messages in FTP job?

2015-06-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
FTP User exits?
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.halz001/ftpserveruserexits.htm

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

 Leonard Sasso wrote:

 Could you please provide the FTP script?

 Sure, here is it, four lines:

 (All values are masked / censored, first line is a valid IP4 address. Port
 number left to default.)

 ?.?.?.?
 id
 psw
 PUT 'dataset name' P20150611.TXT

 Same set of script with different filename was used successfully in April
 2015.

 Many thanks in advance!

 Groete / Greetings
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Re: IBM mainframe operations in the 80s

2015-06-11 Thread Steve Coalbran
NICE!
I remember it well...!
Give me a 3279, SNA-attached with SSRT (Remember that?! 
SubSecondRespondTime?!)
Eat your heart out TCP/IP+LDAP+CITRIX+?!=CTRT (CoffeeTimeResponseTime)!
Then we could really work fast!? and yer try and tell the young folk of 
today... [https://youtu.be/Xe1a1wHxTyo] :-D  



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Date:   2015-06-11 14:35
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This is a nice bit of nostalgia as I started my career as an Op back in 
the 80's.

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote:

​The s is optional, not the he. I guess the real regexp should be \bs?he\b 
. \b matches, but does not consume, a word separator character. So, that 
would be word separator, followed by an optional s, followed by he, 
followed by a word_separator.​

Thanks. I'm without words! Much appreciated. Today I learned something new!

 Should r's?sh' not be r's?she'? Or am I missing something optional?
​Typo on my part: r's?he'​

Uh, thanks for clearing out my decaying brain. ;-) 

I really appreciate your good educational posts! Please keep it up!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread Jorge Garcia
Hello John and Mary:

 Our requirements are (if it's possible). Updates in one and only IODF and then 
transmit it to another systems. With this option we avoid updates in two o more 
IODF and we save the IODF integrity.
The share user catalog option is the fast and easy way for dynamic activation 
in all systems, but It's dangerous if you aren't careful. 

This should be the GRSRNLxx configuration with this option:

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC) QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(hlq iodf)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL)  TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSZVVDS) RNAME(SD) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL)  
TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSVTOC) RNAME(volser catalog device)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSIGGV2) 
   RNAME('iodf user catalog ')  
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(PATTERN) QNAME(SYSIGGV2)  
RNAME('iodf user catalog
 ')  


The IODF SYS1 option and Mary option I think that it's the same. With the Mary 
option you avoid DEFINE and REPRO executions. The transmit and receive option 
is faster. Mary I understand that you have cataloged the same iodf HLQ in 
differerents user catalogs in different systems? With the same HLQ like IOCDS 
you should execute a right dynamic activacion, Is It true? 

Thanks



  

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Re: OT STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Mike Schwab
I use they all the time as the genderless pronoun.  A supervisor
suggested he, I changed it to (s)he.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 ‎A common choice, at least in Canada, is to use the plural pro-noun, since, 
 in English, it in gender neutral.

 It's difficult to get used to, at first.

 -
 -teD
 -
   Original Message
 From: Elardus Engelbrecht
 Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:46
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
 Subject: Re: STCK question

 John McKown wrote:

 I've seen s/he used to cover both genders.
Well, being computer professionals, despite not being of the UNIX variety, 
perhaps we use use the regular expression: s?he

(the ? means repeat 0 or 1 times aka optional). Unless we post in the 
ISPF forum whereupon it becomes r's?sh' to match PDF EDIT's specification of 
a regular expression.

 So, you and me are zero or optional, because we're males? ;-)

 Should r's?sh' not be r's?she'? Or am I missing something optional?


Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be.

 Hehehe, resist, I will not, your good signature lines. ;-)

 Groete / Greetings
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Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Succinctly...  Perform all your work in one IODF.  Preferably your oldest 
release of HCD among your systems to avoid trouble.  Import/Export, catalog and 
activate as needed.

Regards,

Kevin

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Of Jorge Garcia
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 8:35 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

Hello John and Mary:

 Our requirements are (if it's possible). Updates in one and only IODF and then 
transmit it to another systems. With this option we avoid updates in two o more 
IODF and we save the IODF integrity.
The share user catalog option is the fast and easy way for dynamic activation 
in all systems, but It's dangerous if you aren't careful. 

This should be the GRSRNLxx configuration with this option:

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC) QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(hlq iodf) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL)  
TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSZVVDS) RNAME(SD) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL)  TYPE(GENERIC)  
QNAME(SYSVTOC) RNAME(volser catalog device)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSIGGV2) 
   RNAME('iodf user catalog ')  
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(PATTERN) QNAME(SYSIGGV2)  
RNAME('iodf user catalog
 ')  


The IODF SYS1 option and Mary option I think that it's the same. With the Mary 
option you avoid DEFINE and REPRO executions. The transmit and receive option 
is faster. Mary I understand that you have cataloged the same iodf HLQ in 
differerents user catalogs in different systems? With the same HLQ like IOCDS 
you should execute a right dynamic activacion, Is It true? 

Thanks



  

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Re: OT STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:47:39 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:

I use they all the time as the genderless pronoun.  A supervisor
suggested he, I changed it to (s)he.
 
Of course, like all pronouns, it should assimilate its number, singular,
from its antecedent.  A form both politically and gramatically correct is:

Everyone thinks they is being politically correct.

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Re: DFSORT - How to select last 8 bytes in variable length records

2015-06-11 Thread Minoru Massaki
Hi Kolusu-san and Friemel-san,

Thank you very much for giving nice and elegant solutions.
I really appreciate your helps.

  The extra space OP showed is just differentiate the output
 but I don't think it is really needed.

Sample output records I show included a blank character between front key
and data.
Actually it is not needed. It is just separater to see key and data easily.


I understood the limitations when I use the DFSORT control statements you
gave.

Again, thank you!!

Minoru Massaki - (M*M)




2015-06-12 0:33 GMT+09:00 Sri h Kolusu skol...@us.ibm.com:

 Norbert,

 Thanks for the explanation of the control cards but I do understand what
 they are doing. The extra space OP showed is just differentiate the output
 but I don't think it is really needed.

 The other single pass job needed special/reserved characters not in the
 input data. This job allows all characters in the input data
  (for lrecl  16k)

 As you pointed out some of the solutions have limitations. In your case it
 is the LRECL limitation and in my case it is the special characters
 limitation. So given the available information, I try to come up with a
 solution and both of us are trying to help.


 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on
 06/10/2015 05:06:50 PM:

  From: Norbert Friemel nf.ibmm...@web.de
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Date: 06/10/2015 05:07 PM
  Subject: Re: DFSORT - How to select last 8 bytes in variable length
 records
  Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
  On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:57:33 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
 
  Norbert,
  
  As I mentioned earlier it can be done in single pass as shown earlier,
 I
  was just trying to optimize your Joinkeys job.  With your new job there
 a
  couple of issues
  
  1. I am not sure as to why you need to append C'40' (may be you meant
  X'40')
   2. With the append of C'40' your output LRECL is increased by 1.  ie.
 the
  output now has LRECL+8+1
 
  Quote from the first post in this thread:
 
   There is a input file of variable length records.
   I want to insert the last 8 bytes of a record to front of the record
 as
   following sample.
  
   Input file:
   RECORD01X11
   RECORD02Y2
   RECORD03ZCCC
   RECORD044A444
   RECORD0555B
  
   Output File I want to have:
    RECORD01X11
    RECORD02Y2
   ZCCC RECORD03ZCCC
    RECORD044A444
    RECORD0555B
  
   Record data before the last 8 bytes may contain x'00' thru x'FF',
   there is no specific delimiter character for parsing the last 8 bytes.
   The last 8 bytes is also binary.
 
  The output example shows the last 8 bytes of the input records in
  col. 1-8 and a space on col. 9. The data from the input record
  starts at col 10.
  I create the output record as a HEX string and convert it back in
  the last step. That's why I append C'40' (it's converted to x'40' in
  the last BUILD-statement:
  1. BUILD=(1,4,5,HEX))
  converts the input record to hex
  2. OVERLAY=(5:hex_data,JFY=(SHIFT=RIGHT)))
  shifts the hex string (inserts spaces to the left)
  3. BUILD=(1,4,key_start,16,C'40',hex_data,JFY=(SHIFT=LEFT)))
  creates a record with the last 16 bytes of the hex string, a
  hexified space (C'40') and the (hexified) input record shifted to
  the left (spaces on the right)
  4. FINDREP=(IN=(C' '),OUT=C''))
  removes spaces (x'40' at the end of the record, not c'40' in col. 17/18)
  5. BUILD=(1,4,5,TRAN=UNHEX))
  converts to record to binary
 
  The other single pass job needed special/reserved characters not in
  the input data. This job allows all characters in the input data
  (for lrecl  16k)
 
  3. I am not sure as to why you need to validate the RDW to remove the
  short records. JFY will pad up short records. So even if you records
 with
  lrecl less than 12 it will only pick the available characters.
 
  JFY pads the HEX string with spaces (x'40'). I thought that
  converting this with TRAN=UNHEX adds (unwanted) x'00's to col. 1-8
  of short records.  But that's not the case - FINDREP removes the
  leading spaces. So yes, the RDW check could be removed.
 
  Norbert Friemel
 
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LP ID and MIF ID

2015-06-11 Thread R.S.

Disclaimer:The question regards systems EC12, and earlier, not z13.


Multiple CSS systems have 4 CSSes and up to 15 LPARs per CSS.
*60* LPARs per CPC.

Each LPAR has assigned two identifiers: MIF ID and LP ID.
MIF ID is single digit 1...F, which yields up to 15 per CSS.
LP ID is 00-3F unique per CPC which gives ...64 IDs.

Question: is the above true?
Is it really, I can define up to 60 LPARs, but the LP ID set is 64 ?
It seems strange to me.




BTW: i't quite convenient IMHO to use the rule LP ID = CSS.MIF

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Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread Thomas Conley

On 6/11/2015 11:34 AM, Jorge Garcia wrote:

Hello John and Mary:

  Our requirements are (if it's possible). Updates in one and only IODF and 
then transmit it to another systems. With this option we avoid updates in two o 
more IODF and we save the IODF integrity.
The share user catalog option is the fast and easy way for dynamic activation 
in all systems, but It's dangerous if you aren't careful.

This should be the GRSRNLxx configuration with this option:

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC) QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(hlq iodf)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL)  TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSZVVDS) RNAME(SD) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL)  
TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSVTOC) RNAME(volser catalog device)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSIGGV2)
RNAME('iodf user catalog ')
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(PATTERN) QNAME(SYSIGGV2)
RNAME('iodf user catalog
 ')


The IODF SYS1 option and Mary option I think that it's the same. With the Mary 
option you avoid DEFINE and REPRO executions. The transmit and receive option 
is faster. Mary I understand that you have cataloged the same iodf HLQ in 
differerents user catalogs in different systems? With the same HLQ like IOCDS 
you should execute a right dynamic activacion, Is It true?



Jorge,

This is dangerous and unnecessary.  You can catalog the IODF on each 
separate system in the master catalog, or a user catalog shared among 
systems IN THE SAME SYSPLEX.  You shouldn't be sharing a user catalog 
cross-sysplex.


I used to propagate IODF's with DFDSS DUMP, FTP, RESTORE, but that 
failed once after working for over a year.  So now I use the HCD EXPORT 
and IMPORT functions, which while slower, is guaranteed to work.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I'm with Tom. Since the advent of IODF in the 90s, we have always given each 
plex (sys- or mono-) its own copy of the IODF. Although not required, we 
catalog it in master. If nothing else, you have backups in case one get marfed 
or accidentally deleted. 

SAMPLIB contains sample jobs to migrate an IODF. Look at members CBDS* . Simply 
submit a job on the system where you manage HCD. Job1 offloads and transmits 
IODF to another system over NJE, where Job2 unloads and catalogs IODF on target 
system. It really is pretty fast and very reliable. 

.
.
.
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Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Thomas Conley
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 9:57 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

On 6/11/2015 11:34 AM, Jorge Garcia wrote:
 Hello John and Mary:

   Our requirements are (if it's possible). Updates in one and only IODF and 
 then transmit it to another systems. With this option we avoid updates in two 
 o more IODF and we save the IODF integrity.
 The share user catalog option is the fast and easy way for dynamic activation 
 in all systems, but It's dangerous if you aren't careful.

 This should be the GRSRNLxx configuration with this option:

 RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC) QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(hlq iodf) RNLDEF 
 RNL(EXCL)  TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSZVVDS) RNAME(SD) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL)  
 TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSVTOC) RNAME(volser catalog device) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) 
 TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSIGGV2)
 RNAME('iodf user catalog ')
 RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(PATTERN) QNAME(SYSIGGV2)
 RNAME('iodf user catalog  
')


 The IODF SYS1 option and Mary option I think that it's the same. With the 
 Mary option you avoid DEFINE and REPRO executions. The transmit and receive 
 option is faster. Mary I understand that you have cataloged the same iodf HLQ 
 in differerents user catalogs in different systems? With the same HLQ like 
 IOCDS you should execute a right dynamic activacion, Is It true?


Jorge,

This is dangerous and unnecessary.  You can catalog the IODF on each separate 
system in the master catalog, or a user catalog shared among systems IN THE 
SAME SYSPLEX.  You shouldn't be sharing a user catalog cross-sysplex.

I used to propagate IODF's with DFDSS DUMP, FTP, RESTORE, but that failed once 
after working for over a year.  So now I use the HCD EXPORT and IMPORT 
functions, which while slower, is guaranteed to work.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Carlos Cordero
Colleagues,
 
Did somebody has implemented a process for monitor/log  IND$FILE command 
activity focussed on file transmission thru 3270 emulators?, maybe with beta88 
software?
 
Or it must a home-made ad-hoc customization outside of beta88 software?
 
What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer activity 
executed from commands given on emulators.
 
 
Many Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 05:59:55 -0400
 From: 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Volume consideration and migration for z / OS 2.1
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 Lots of info here:
 http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/
  
 Couldn't get the Data Sheet to open(404) maybe it's being updated.
  
  
  
 In a message dated 6/6/2015 2:27:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Any  advise on the above would be  appreciated.
 
 
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Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread J O Skip Robinson
One more thing. ;-) Using 'native' HCD/IODF facilities guards against a 
possibly fatal problem. Other software might well upload an IODF in multiple 
extents. Perfectly valid for data management, and the result will work fine for 
dynamic ACTIVATE. However, you cannot IPL with a multi-extent IODF. If you use 
native facilities, this problem will be detected on reload and cause a non-zero 
return code. That alone is worth using CBD utilities to migrate an IODF. 

.
.
.
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Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of J O Skip Robinson
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:14 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

I'm with Tom. Since the advent of IODF in the 90s, we have always given each 
plex (sys- or mono-) its own copy of the IODF. Although not required, we 
catalog it in master. If nothing else, you have backups in case one get marfed 
or accidentally deleted. 

SAMPLIB contains sample jobs to migrate an IODF. Look at members CBDS* . Simply 
submit a job on the system where you manage HCD. Job1 offloads and transmits 
IODF to another system over NJE, where Job2 unloads and catalogs IODF on target 
system. It really is pretty fast and very reliable. 

.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Thomas Conley
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 9:57 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

On 6/11/2015 11:34 AM, Jorge Garcia wrote:
 Hello John and Mary:

   Our requirements are (if it's possible). Updates in one and only IODF and 
 then transmit it to another systems. With this option we avoid updates in two 
 o more IODF and we save the IODF integrity.
 The share user catalog option is the fast and easy way for dynamic activation 
 in all systems, but It's dangerous if you aren't careful.

 This should be the GRSRNLxx configuration with this option:

 RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC) QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(hlq iodf) RNLDEF
 RNL(EXCL)  TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSZVVDS) RNAME(SD) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL)
 TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSVTOC) RNAME(volser catalog device) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) 
 TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSIGGV2)
 RNAME('iodf user catalog ')
 RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(PATTERN) QNAME(SYSIGGV2)
 RNAME('iodf user catalog  
')


 The IODF SYS1 option and Mary option I think that it's the same. With the 
 Mary option you avoid DEFINE and REPRO executions. The transmit and receive 
 option is faster. Mary I understand that you have cataloged the same iodf HLQ 
 in differerents user catalogs in different systems? With the same HLQ like 
 IOCDS you should execute a right dynamic activacion, Is It true?


Jorge,

This is dangerous and unnecessary.  You can catalog the IODF on each separate 
system in the master catalog, or a user catalog shared among systems IN THE 
SAME SYSPLEX.  You shouldn't be sharing a user catalog cross-sysplex.

I used to propagate IODF's with DFDSS DUMP, FTP, RESTORE, but that failed once 
after working for over a year.  So now I use the HCD EXPORT and IMPORT 
functions, which while slower, is guaranteed to work.

Regards,
Tom Conley


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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Are you looking for REAL time or after the fact monitoring?

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com
Sent: Jun 11, 2015 10:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring

Colleagues,
 
Did somebody has implemented a process for monitor/log  IND$FILE command 
activity focussed on file transmission thru 3270 emulators?, maybe with beta88 
software?
 
Or it must a home-made ad-hoc customization outside of beta88 software?
 
What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer activity 
executed from commands given on emulators.
 
 
Many Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 05:59:55 -0400
 From: 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Volume consideration and migration for z / OS 2.1
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 Lots of info here:
 http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/
  
 Couldn't get the Data Sheet to open(404) maybe it's being updated.
  
  
  
 In a message dated 6/6/2015 2:27:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Any  advise on the above would be  appreciated.

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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Carlos Cordero
Both..
 
 
Thanks
 
 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:58:12 -0700
 From: stars...@mindspring.com
 Subject: Re: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 Are you looking for REAL time or after the fact monitoring?
 
 Lizette
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com
 Sent: Jun 11, 2015 10:20 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring
 
 Colleagues,
  
 Did somebody has implemented a process for monitor/log  IND$FILE command 
 activity focussed on file transmission thru 3270 emulators?, maybe with 
 beta88 software?
  
 Or it must a home-made ad-hoc customization outside of beta88 software?
  
 What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer activity 
 executed from commands given on emulators.
  
  
 Many Thanks.
  
  
  
  
  Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 05:59:55 -0400
  From: 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: Volume consideration and migration for z / OS 2.1
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  
  Lots of info here:
  http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/
   
  Couldn't get the Data Sheet to open(404) maybe it's being updated.
   
   
   
  In a message dated 6/6/2015 2:27:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:
  
  Any  advise on the above would be  appreciated.
 
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Re: Files for Bill Godfrey

2015-06-11 Thread Sam Golob

Hi Shmuel,

I sent him both OPTLIB files, as you probably know by now, but what 
tape were the 5734LM* files on?


All the best of everything to you and your family.

Sincerely,   Sam

On 6/11/2015 3:41 AM, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:

Could you send Bill Godfrey copies of OPTLIBM.MAC and either
*.5734LM4.MAC or *.5734LM5.MAC, or the whole tape?

He should be able to handle XMIT format.

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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Carlos,

Here is a link to a previous discussion on IBM-MAIN that might help you. 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/zXHbn7rTp3M


Thanks,
Kolusu

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 
06/11/2015 11:01:12 AM:

 From: Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date: 06/11/2015 11:03 AM
 Subject: Re: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring
 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 Both..
 
 
 Thanks
 
  Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:58:12 -0700
  From: stars...@mindspring.com
  Subject: Re: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  
  Are you looking for REAL time or after the fact monitoring?
  
  Lizette
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com
  Sent: Jun 11, 2015 10:20 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring
  
  Colleagues,
   
  Did somebody has implemented a process for monitor/log  IND$FILE 
 command activity focussed on file transmission thru 3270 emulators?,
 maybe with beta88 software?
   
  Or it must a home-made ad-hoc customization outside of beta88 
software?
   
  What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer 
 activity executed from commands given on emulators.
   
   
  Many Thanks.
   
   
   
   
   Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 05:59:55 -0400
   From: 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu
   Subject: Re: Volume consideration and migration for z / OS 2.1
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   
   Lots of info here:
   http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/
   
   Couldn't get the Data Sheet to open(404) maybe it's being updated.
   
   
   
   In a message dated 6/6/2015 2:27:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
   justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:
   
   Any  advise on the above would be  appreciated.
  
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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Tony's Outlook via Mozilla
Not wishing to be a Black Hat and not wanting to think like a White Hat, 
let me don my Gray Hat.  If I wanted to send a PDS member containing 
source code I'd simply email it.  If it were large I'd mail it in pieces.


In the movie Mash, Corporal Radar O'Reilly send a Jeep from Korea to his 
home town in the U.S. in pieces, in small parcels.




On 6/11/2015 12:20 PM, Carlos Cordero wrote:

Colleagues,

Did somebody has implemented a process for monitor/log  IND$FILE command 
activity focussed on file transmission thru 3270 emulators?, maybe with beta88 
software?

Or it must a home-made ad-hoc customization outside of beta88 software?

What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer activity 
executed from commands given on emulators.


Many Thanks.





Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 05:59:55 -0400
From: 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Volume consideration and migration for z / OS 2.1
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Lots of info here:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/

Couldn't get the Data Sheet to open(404) maybe it's being updated.



In a message dated 6/6/2015 2:27:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:

Any  advise on the above would be  appreciated.


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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Carlos Cordero
Mr. Kolusu, thanks for the info, I will check
 
 
Regards
 
 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:20:39 -0700
 From: skol...@us.ibm.com
 Subject: Re: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 Carlos,
 
 Here is a link to a previous discussion on IBM-MAIN that might help you. 
 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/zXHbn7rTp3M
 
 
 Thanks,
 Kolusu
 
 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 
 06/11/2015 11:01:12 AM:
 
  From: Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Date: 06/11/2015 11:03 AM
  Subject: Re: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring
  Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  
  Both..
  
  
  Thanks
  
   Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:58:12 -0700
   From: stars...@mindspring.com
   Subject: Re: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   
   Are you looking for REAL time or after the fact monitoring?
   
   Lizette
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com
   Sent: Jun 11, 2015 10:20 AM
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Subject: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring
   
   Colleagues,

   Did somebody has implemented a process for monitor/log  IND$FILE 
  command activity focussed on file transmission thru 3270 emulators?,
  maybe with beta88 software?

   Or it must a home-made ad-hoc customization outside of beta88 
 software?

   What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer 
  activity executed from commands given on emulators.


   Many Thanks.




Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 05:59:55 -0400
From: 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Volume consideration and migration for z / OS 2.1
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Lots of info here:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/

Couldn't get the Data Sheet to open(404) maybe it's being updated.



In a message dated 6/6/2015 2:27:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:

Any  advise on the above would be  appreciated.
   
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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 Both..


​I have some code with I can share which _might_ be of some help. But it
may (most likely _will_) violate your shop's standards. Or cause your boss
to say no. The IBM IND$FILE function basically runs a TSO command​ from
the READY prompt. The 3270 emulator talks with this command via the 3270
data stream, much like a screen scraping application. What my code does
is front end the normal IBM code, and simply creates a WTO message to
send to the z/OS SYSLOG. The WTO contains the TSO id and the TSO command,
along with a S or E for Start of transfer and End of transfer. This is
sufficient to tell you who did the transfer and the name of the z/OS data
set involved.

It also, if it is APF authorized, makes the TSO session non-swappable.

Another possibility is to set up RACF auditing on the IND$FILE command, but
that (in and of itself) will not tell you the name of the DSN involved.




 Thanks


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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Tony's Outlook via Mozilla 
tbabo...@outlook.com wrote:

 Not wishing to be a Black Hat and not wanting to think like a White Hat,
 let me don my Gray Hat.  If I wanted to send a PDS member containing source
 code I'd simply email it.  If it were large I'd mail it in pieces.


​I used to do that. Now I just create a GIST on GitHub and share that. What
is nice is that I can direct the me too people to the GIST and it doesn't
clog up the email server. Which takes it pretty much out of the normal
monitoring channels. Not that I actually care about that. ​




 In the movie Mash, Corporal Radar O'Reilly send a Jeep from Korea to his
 home town in the U.S. in pieces, in small parcels.


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My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells down by the
seashore.
If someone tell you that nothing is impossible:
Ask him to dribble a football.

He's about as useful as a wax frying pan.

10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone

Maranatha! 
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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 Colleagues,

 Did somebody has implemented a process for monitor/log  IND$FILE command
 activity focussed on file transmission thru 3270 emulators?, maybe with
 beta88 software?

 Or it must a home-made ad-hoc customization outside of beta88 software?

 What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer activity
 executed from commands given on emulators.


​If you only need who did it and when did they do it, but not what did
they do, then you can create a RACF profile for IND$FILE in the PROGRAM
class​ with a UACC(READ) and set

RDEFINE PROGRAM IND$FILE UACC(READ) AUDIT(ALL)

If you need the what portion, then you'd need to do some heavy data set
access auditing. And a way to relate the data set access record with the
program access record.

-- 
Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be.

My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells down by the
seashore.
If someone tell you that nothing is impossible:
Ask him to dribble a football.

He's about as useful as a wax frying pan.

10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone

Maranatha! 
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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Carlos Cordero
John, I very appreciate your help. 
 
If you´re available to share with me your code, ok I can put this on 
development environment and customize it and testing.
 
 
 
I´m in touch.
 

 
 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:31:47 -0500
 From: john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Both..
 
 
 ​I have some code with I can share which _might_ be of some help. But it
 may (most likely _will_) violate your shop's standards. Or cause your boss
 to say no. The IBM IND$FILE function basically runs a TSO command​ from
 the READY prompt. The 3270 emulator talks with this command via the 3270
 data stream, much like a screen scraping application. What my code does
 is front end the normal IBM code, and simply creates a WTO message to
 send to the z/OS SYSLOG. The WTO contains the TSO id and the TSO command,
 along with a S or E for Start of transfer and End of transfer. This is
 sufficient to tell you who did the transfer and the name of the z/OS data
 set involved.
 
 It also, if it is APF authorized, makes the TSO session non-swappable.
 
 Another possibility is to set up RACF auditing on the IND$FILE command, but
 that (in and of itself) will not tell you the name of the DSN involved.
 
 
 
 
  Thanks
 
 
 -- 
 Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be.
 
 My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells down by the
 seashore.
 If someone tell you that nothing is impossible:
 Ask him to dribble a football.
 
 He's about as useful as a wax frying pan.
 
 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone
 
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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
CorreLog, my employer, has just started shipping the IND$defender feature
for our SIEM Agent for z/OS. The Agent is described here
https://correlog.com/solutions-and-services/sas-correlog-mainframe.html but
there is AFAIK no information yet on the Web about this particular new
feature. It transparently captures the user ID, direction of transfer,
dataset and member name, the TSO user's logon time, the user's name and
Group, the remote IP address if available, the LU name, and the duration of
the transfer.

We can send this information either through our Agent real-time to the SIEM
of your choice (ArcSight, QRadar, LogRhythm, Splunk, etc.) and/or write it
as a user SMF record, which Dr. Merrill has graciously offered to support in
MXG.

IND$defender is currently offered only as an Agent feature but the SMF
record output is technologically a stand-alone product and I am sure our
sales team would be happy to talk about whatever licensing interested you.

BTW, we do this *without* violating IBM's system integrity guidelines. We do
*not* run IND$FILE APF-authorized, as it was not designed by IBM to be run
authorized.

Charles

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Carlos Cordero
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: IND$FILE Resource Log  Monitoring

Colleagues,
 
Did somebody has implemented a process for monitor/log  IND$FILE command
activity focussed on file transmission thru 3270 emulators?, maybe with
beta88 software?
 
Or it must a home-made ad-hoc customization outside of beta88 software?
 
What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer activity
executed from commands given on emulators.
 
 

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Re: IBM mainframe operations in the 80s

2015-06-11 Thread Scott Ford
The wayback machine ...80s , just entered Systems Programming..in
Operations in the 70s before...man

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Steve Coalbran coal...@se.ibm.com wrote:

 NICE!
 I remember it well...!
 Give me a 3279, SNA-attached with SSRT (Remember that?!
 SubSecondRespondTime?!)
 Eat your heart out TCP/IP+LDAP+CITRIX+?!=CTRT (CoffeeTimeResponseTime)!
 Then we could really work fast!? and yer try and tell the young folk of
 today... [https://youtu.be/Xe1a1wHxTyo] :-D



 From:   David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date:   2015-06-11 14:35
 Subject:IBM mainframe operations in the 80s
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



 This is a nice bit of nostalgia as I started my career as an Op back in
 the 80's.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwj6pfhWBps

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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 John, I very appreciate your help.

 If you´re available to share with me your code, ok I can put this on
 development environment and customize it and testing.


​The _code_ is available. I'm not. (man am I picky about words!) You, and
anyone else, can give a look at it at:
https://gist.github.com/JohnArchieMckown/2de9d5d8b41095bc5f47​

​Note that it does not _require_ APF authorization to run. You can get the
logging only by simply linking it into a STEPLIB in a special TSO logon
proc. My example links with the name IND@FILE, so you'd need to either
change the NAME card in the link step or rename the module afterwards. If
you don't want the non-swappable, then you can just yank that part of the
code out.

If at all possible, I'd really push for Mr. Mills' product. It sounds to be
a much better way to get this done. But, then, I wrote this code back in
the previous century (created in 1993, last updated in 1998 according to
the ISPF statistics).​



 I´m in touch.


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My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells down by the
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Mobile computing in 1963

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
Photo: https://twitter.com/IBMRedbooks/status/609073925092446208/photo/1


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He's about as useful as a wax frying pan.

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Re: IBM mainframe operations in the 80s

2015-06-11 Thread Ken Hume IBM
I remember one time back in the mid-80's The company I worked for was 
doing an annual report and a new customer system we had written and 
implemented was going to be featured in that publication.


In came the photographers and and lights and the cameras. You can imagine 
how the operators looked. Jeans, t-shirts, tennis shoes, etc. As the lead 
operator I had on khakis and a button down collar shirt but no tie. Well, 
that couldn't be shown!!! Never


So, the shoot coordinator goes off and finds three or four young, attractive 
women that were well dressed and brings them into the computer room. Most of 
them had no idea what a computer was. All of them complained that the room 
was to cold and did not want to stay in there.


We had a good laugh and the publication looked pretty good as well.

Ahh.. The old days...

Ken

-Original Message- 
From: Scott Ford

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:05 PM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM mainframe operations in the 80s

The wayback machine ...80s , just entered Systems Programming..in
Operations in the 70s before...man

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Steve Coalbran coal...@se.ibm.com wrote:


NICE!
I remember it well...!
Give me a 3279, SNA-attached with SSRT (Remember that?!
SubSecondRespondTime?!)
Eat your heart out TCP/IP+LDAP+CITRIX+?!=CTRT (CoffeeTimeResponseTime)!
Then we could really work fast!? and yer try and tell the young folk of
today... [https://youtu.be/Xe1a1wHxTyo] :-D



From:   David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   2015-06-11 14:35
Subject:IBM mainframe operations in the 80s
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



This is a nice bit of nostalgia as I started my career as an Op back in
the 80's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwj6pfhWBps

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Re: OT STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
cajtoo58sxrwsgbto-j0kbycpaqzeuzunsc+a5+0vx5fssp7...@mail.gmail.com,
on 06/11/2015
   at 10:47 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:

I use they all the time as the genderless pronoun.

That would be he in contemporary English, but they has long
antecedents.
 
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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In snt149-w29013f1ea2cc512dc4d849c7...@phx.gbl, on 06/11/2015
   at 12:20 PM, Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com said:

What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer
activity executed from commands given on emulators.

That won't catch file transfers from an FTP command in a 3270 session.
 
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Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

 In snt149-w29013f1ea2cc512dc4d849c7...@phx.gbl, on 06/11/2015
at 12:20 PM, Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com said:

 What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer
 activity executed from commands given on emulators.

 That won't catch file transfers from an FTP command in a 3270 session.


​I'm a tad confused by this statement. The only file transfer that I am
aware of over a 3270 data stream is via IND$FILE. Is there some other? ​In
many (most?) cases, when somebody uses ftp by itself, I think of the one
for TCP/IP. I am aware that there are other ways to transfer files, such as
NJE and AFTP. I guess that my assumption was that the emulator in question
in from commands given on emulators was a 3270 emulator.




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