Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread David Crayford
On 27/03/2016 3:01 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: I agree with the C suggestion. GCC is for Linux at https://gcc.gnu.org/ GCC is for MVS 3.8 - z/OS 2.2 is at http://gccmvs.sourceforge.net/ includes Hercules, MVS 3.8, GCC. I've been using clang for C/C++ on Linux for the last year and I prefer it to

Re: IBM z/OS Product Documentation 2016

2016-03-26 Thread Timothy Sipples
Mike Schwab asked: >Could these be stored on an OpenMVS file and displayed on a 3270 or >opened from a connecting device? I think you meant zFS. The answer is yes, assuming by "connecting device" you meant any device equipped with a Web browser. That could include an iPad, for example. Some of

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Charles Mills
If porting to z Linux, your only issues are likely to be hardware issues. Don't assume endian-ness. Avoid unions of ints and chars. union { int foo; char bar[4]; } IamDangerous; If porting to z/OS, you have the same hardware issues plus the ASCII-EBCDIC issue plus compiler and library

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 3/26/2016 at 11:59 AM, Steve Beaver wrote: > First of all I am first and foremost an zOS Systems programmer that only > writes in HLASM and REXX as needed. > > My goal is to learn Linux and then develop in Linux and then as needed port > it to zSeries box. That

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 14:01:06 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: >I agree with the C suggestion. >GCC is for Linux at https://gcc.gnu.org/ I think that you'll find that gcc is available with any distro. All of the distros have an associated software repository with a large selection of optional

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Michel Beaulieu
Steve, Since the goal is to eventually port to zSeries, which compilers is available is important. In my experience, Not every z/OS shop have C compilers or applications. I believe that learning to develop with Eclipse ( eclipse.org) would be a great asset. You can use eclipse to develop

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Mike Schwab
I agree with the C suggestion. GCC is for Linux at https://gcc.gnu.org/ GCC is for MVS 3.8 - z/OS 2.2 is at http://gccmvs.sourceforge.net/ includes Hercules, MVS 3.8, GCC. On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Steve Beaver wrote: > First of all I am first and foremost an zOS

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Tom Brennan
Starting footnotes with [0] ? Sure sign of a C programmer :) Tomasz Rola wrote: As of which Linux, I guess you should choose the one that has documentation and tutorials on their homepage. I am long time Debian [0] user [1] but I have no idea if this would be the best choice for you. Sometimes

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Tom Brennan
Thanks Charles, that's exactly what I meant. Charles Mills wrote: Don't purchase Linux @Steve, you get the distinction there? Linux is free -- you never purchase it. What you can purchase is support, particular distribution formats, add-ons, etc. Tom is saying that if you were running

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 10:59:40 -0500, Steve Beaver wrote: >First of all I am first and foremost an zOS Systems programmer that only >writes in HLASM and REXX as needed. > >My goal is to learn Linux and then develop in Linux and then as needed port >it to zSeries box. That being said, First of

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 10:59:40AM -0500, Steve Beaver wrote: > First of all I am first and foremost an zOS Systems programmer that only > writes in HLASM and REXX as needed. > > My goal is to learn Linux and then develop in Linux and then as needed port > it to zSeries box. That being said, >

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Charles Mills
> Don't purchase Linux @Steve, you get the distinction there? Linux is free -- you never purchase it. What you can purchase is support, particular distribution formats, add-ons, etc. Tom is saying that if you were running enterprise production you would want support, but for home use you need not

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Tom Brennan
Don't purchase Linux for your own use - you'll find answers to issues using Google. At least that's been my experience. If you haven't worked with Linux at all, I'd actually recommend something I bought recently, the Raspberry Pi 3 - CanaKit from Amazon for $79 comes with everything you need

Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

2016-03-26 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I installed and tested UO01807 . It fixed the problem. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Documentation availability was Re: EXTERNAL: Re: IBM z/OS Product Documentation 2016

2016-03-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 26, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Clark Morris wrote: [Default] On 25 Mar 2016 12:34:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main 00e2883cf878-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Eosze, Jonathan L.) wrote: Unfortunately, I have encountered the inability to access Knowledge Center on more than one occasion.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: IBM z/OS Product Documentation 2016

2016-03-26 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
In a SHARE session a while back, customers in the room made the same point about ServiceLink in general. We need SIS and SR most during an outage. Ours that is. These apps are more critical at 2 AM than 2PM, more critical on a weekend than mid-week. IBM seemed sympathetic to this view, but I

Documentation availability was Re: EXTERNAL: Re: IBM z/OS Product Documentation 2016

2016-03-26 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 25 Mar 2016 12:34:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main 00e2883cf878-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Eosze, Jonathan L.) wrote: >Unfortunately, I have encountered the inability to access Knowledge Center on >more than one occasion. Usually it was scheduled maintenance windows, but I

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Scott Ford
There are a lot of IDEs and gnu is like a standard On Saturday, March 26, 2016, Scott Ford wrote: > Steve, > > Depends on what you want to develop in.. > > On Saturday, March 26, 2016, Steve Beaver

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Scott Ford
Steve, Depends on what you want to develop in.. On Saturday, March 26, 2016, Steve Beaver wrote: > What about a compiler/binder ? > > And is there a Linux tutorial/course to get to speed before attaching > writing code? > > Steve > > -Original Message- > From:

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Steve Beaver
What about a compiler/binder ? And is there a Linux tutorial/course to get to speed before attaching writing code? Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 11:20 AM To:

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Scott Ford
Ed, I liked it alsovery happy with it, had older versions 6.2 etc.. Scott On Saturday, March 26, 2016, Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 3/26/2016 8:59 AM, Steve Beaver wrote: > >> Does anyone have any input on which version of Linux to purchase? I Know >> SUSE has an

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/26/2016 8:59 AM, Steve Beaver wrote: Does anyone have any input on which version of Linux to purchase? I Know SUSE has an enterprise 64 bit product? Most IBMers tend to recommend SUSE because of their responsiveness, but we have been running Red Hat Enterprise Linux for years on our z

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Scott Ford
Steve, You can use gedit on Gnome and kernite on KDE On Saturday, March 26, 2016, Scott Ford wrote: > Steve, > > I have build boxes using OpenSUSE , Fedora , Redhat because of Hercules. > Any of the distros above were easy to learn and I like Gnome or KDE. > I have

Re: Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Scott Ford
Steve, I have build boxes using OpenSUSE , Fedora , Redhat because of Hercules. Any of the distros above were easy to learn and I like Gnome or KDE. I have OpenSUSE 13.1 with Open Object Rexx ... Scott On Saturday, March 26, 2016, Steve Beaver wrote: > First of all I am

Linux

2016-03-26 Thread Steve Beaver
First of all I am first and foremost an zOS Systems programmer that only writes in HLASM and REXX as needed. My goal is to learn Linux and then develop in Linux and then as needed port it to zSeries box. That being said, - I am going to build a 64 Bit a box with 16 gig of memory and 8

Re: Binder SIZE Option

2016-03-26 Thread Ed Gould
Sorry, I was comparing 5 minutes (standard options) to 1.5 minutes with large (size=2000K,1000K). I tend to look at negativity as best option with IBM products because I have been disappointed so much. Ed On Mar 26, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Charles Mills wrote: 200 percent improvement If a

Re: Binder SIZE Option

2016-03-26 Thread Peter Relson
>Is SIZE simply ignored by Binder? Or has it any effect, >possibly beneficial or harmful? Not being hindered by knowledge, I can make a guess: The binder does pay attention to SIZE. It could not get more storage than your region size in any case, so SIZE really could only lessen the amount

Re: Binder SIZE Option

2016-03-26 Thread Charles Mills
> 200 percent improvement If a job formerly took five minutes, then I guess a 100% improvement in performance would get it to zero minutes. Does a 200% improvement mean it finishes five minutes before it starts? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List