Re: Highest address "below the bar"

Ed: Can you elaborate on the reason(s) for your methodology: "We routinely load base registers and "uninitialized" pointers to 7000 (or sometimes 7BAD) rather than zero." The one reason I can visualize is that instead of unintentionally accessing something in low core you would

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

Same here - smallest in use is MOD3 at 8 different Data Centers I have worked with in the last couple of years.  David Mingee Mainframe Consulting 9206 Aintree Drive Indianapolis, IN  46250 317 288-9588  Home317 903-9455  Cell From: Steve Beaver To:

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:38:14 -0400, Don Poitras wrote: > >I wrote the support in SAS/C for handling multiple tasks writing to the same >sysout DD. I used WAIT/POST rather than ENQ/DEQ. > >https://support.sas.com/documentation/onlinedoc/sasc/doc750/html/clug/zntimeop.htm#zid-1494 > I'm trying to

Re: JOB cards, procs, and TIOTs, o my!

Scott Ballentine wrote: >For your last question, take a look at the JCL Reference. There's a chapter >on started tasks that talks about some of this stuff. (By the way, the doc >uses the term "started job" for what you call a "proc with a JOB card", and >"started proc" for the not-a-JOB

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

In article <4827659745512199.wa.woodagozemail.com...@listserv.ua.edu> you wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:00:10 -0500, John McKown > wrote: > . . . > >Now, with JES2 (or UNIX output), what happens? Well, it's more like a data > >base. You still have two DCBs, but

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:00:10 -0500, John McKown wrote: . . . >Now, with JES2 (or UNIX output), what happens? Well, it's more like a data >base. You still have two DCBs, but the actual write sends the data to JES2 >and tells it to place it in the SPOOL file. So JES2

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:36:38 +0200, Michael Knigge wrote: >Yes, DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE) > [much snippage] > I've noticed, mostly on non-z/OS systems: o (documented) For "cat -u", the "-u" is always in effect; provided for compatibility but otherwise ignored. o (not well documented) stderr

Re: Highest address "below the bar"

On 6/16/2016 3:57 PM, Jim Mulder wrote: For diagnostic purposes, then 4K page at 7000 is always left invalid in z/OS. And what a valuable design decision that was! We routinely load base registers and "uninitialized" pointers to 7000 (or sometimes 7BAD) rather than zero.

Re: Short description of system address spaces

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246366.html?Open This would be a good starting point for them. On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > While educating colloeagues new to z/OS, I promised to come up with a short > decription of all the system address spaces

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

Paul Gilmartin wrote: PDF!? On a mobile!? It's OK when you get there, I guess, but they wanna make you earn it! I read PDF's on my mobile all the time. Spend a lot of time swiping to expand 'em but sometimes you gotta have the answer right now. Truth is, I sympathize with IBM. The younger

Re: z/OS V2.1 MVS Data Area manuals missing in the Knowledge Center

Or "O' Brother". In a message dated 7/1/2016 2:32:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu writes: Think of the closing scene of "Raiders of the Lost Ark". -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: z/OS V2.1 MVS Data Area manuals missing in the Knowledge Center

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 11:03:40 -0400, John Eells wrote: >I heard back from the person I contacted. As I surmised, most of the >people are off today (and, of course, Monday). However, perhaps this >will tide you over for now: > >The MVS Data Areas for z/OS 2.1 are available for download as PDFs

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 07:10:35 -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote: >Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: >> I'm curious about other people's views. >> >> I'm struggling to find anything I want in the Knowledge Centre these days. >Congratulations to IBM on making the KC almost unusable to actual users in an

Re: Short description of system address spaces

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:01:29 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote: >While educating colloeagues new to z/OS, I promised to come up with a short >decription of all the system address spaces are for. Before >starting to write this down, does anyone happen to have such a list they are

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

Yes, DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE) Bye, Michael Am 01.07.2016 um 14:14 schrieb Kurt Quackenbush: At our site there is no difference if I use DSN= or SYSOUT=* in my JCL for STDOUT and STDERR. Output from all threads is written to the file. At the customer site if DSN=xxx is used, only

AW: Re: z/OS V2.1 MVS Data Area manuals missing in the Knowledge Center

> I heard back from the person I contacted. As I surmised, most of the people are off today (and, of course, Monday). However, perhaps this will tide you over for now: Thank you, John. Much appreciated. There is no hurry, at least not with me. I've got all of the PDFs on all machines I

AW: Re: Short description of system address spaces

A bit too brief -- Peter Hunkeler Von: Mike Schwab An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: Short description of system address spaces Datum: 01.07.16, 15:41 JOBNAME *MASTER* ALLOCAS ANTAS000 ANTMAIN APPC ASCH ASCHINT AUTOTSO AUTOVIEW

Re: EXTERNAL: IBM Knowledge Centre

Might a better question be "is there anyone who DISAGREES?" CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity Original message From: Jerry Whitteridge Date: 7/1/16 8:51 AM (GMT-08:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: EXTERNAL: IBM Knowledge Centre

Nope - not just you Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: z/OS V2.1 MVS Data Area manuals missing in the Knowledge Center

I heard back from the person I contacted. As I surmised, most of the people are off today (and, of course, Monday). However, perhaps this will tide you over for now: The MVS Data Areas for z/OS 2.1 are available for download as PDFs here:

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

I might open an SR to the Assembler Language product for the Data Areas and complain that way. They may be more able to help. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) > Sent:

Re: Short description of system address spaces

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Re: z/OS V2.1 MVS Data Area manuals missing in the Knowledge Center

I forwarded this to someone I think can get it taken care of. As Monday is a holiday here, though, and many are off today as well (it was very easy to get a nearby parking space!), I would not expect instant action. Peter Hunkeler wrote: Would anyone of the IBMers watching the forum know

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: I'm curious about other people's views. I'm struggling to find anything I want in the Knowledge Centre these days. Congratulations to IBM on making the KC almost unusable to actual users in an attempt to make it mobile-friendly. Here's how I use it:

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

While we are piling on, I agree - it’s pretty miserable (and still full of broken links).The only reasonable way to find anything these days is searching one at a time (which works fairly well) but I miss the tree-driven system, and generally revert to the PDFs now constantly. Chad > On

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

Agreed! To me, the KC is a big pile of steamy stuff, and isn't fit for purpose. I'm spending more time searching for the documentation than actually using it! This email – including attachments – may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not copy,

Re: Multithreaded output to stderr and stdout

At our site there is no difference if I use DSN= or SYSOUT=* in my JCL for STDOUT and STDERR. Output from all threads is written to the file. At the customer site if DSN=xxx is used, only output from the main thread is written to the file. If SYSOUT=* is used the customer can see all output

Short description of system address spaces

While educating colloeagues new to z/OS, I promised to come up with a short decription of all the system address spaces are for. Before starting to write this down, does anyone happen to have such a list they are willing to share? Note that I'm not takling about a description of elements and

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

> Just don't try to use it with IE (up to IE11), use Firefox, Chrome or > whatever, just not IE. Damn. IE11 is all I've got (am allowed) on my work machine :( Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in

z/OS V2.1 MVS Data Area manuals missing in the Knowledge Center

Would anyone of the IBMers watching the forum know whom to contact to tell them that the zOS/ V2.1 MVS Data Area manuals are missing in the new Knowledge Center? The feedback link on the page seems to be just general feedback about IBM. -- Peter Hunkeler

AW: Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

>The search in KC, which provides links to pages in manuals it's found, appears >to only provide the Data Areas manuals for 2.2. It seems to me that the Data Areas manuals are missing again in the z/OS V2.1 MVS bookshelf. Has happened before. The are there in the z/OS V2.2 bookshelf (yes,

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

Yep, in the original link you gave, that has everything I need. The search in KC, which provides links to pages in manuals it's found, appears to only provide the Data Areas manuals for 2.2. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer   -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

I am not sure, what you want. But in the 2.1-link , which I sent you, I found the info in dataareas vol 4. Sorry, following is ex dataareas-vol4-pdf-files and therefore not pretty. It should only be a provement for you, that the info you want is there. IXLYAMDA Map Offsets Dec Hex

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

IXLYAMDA Heading Information Common Name: Accounting and Measurement Data Area Macro ID: IXLYAMDA DSECT Name: IXLYAMDAREA IXLYAMDCF IXLYAMDCF1 IXLYAMDSLL IXLYAMDSLL1 IXLYAMDSLC IXLYAMDSLC1 IXLYAMDSTRL IXLYAMDSTRL1 IXLYAMDSTRC IXLYAMDSTRC1 IXLYAMDCFMI IXLYAMDCFMINFO IXLYAMDCFRF @LAA IXLYAMDCFCP

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

Sort of - the manuals where that search finds the information I'm looking for appear to be for z/OS 2.2; the z/OS 2.1 ones (which is what I want) in that list are the manuals for the IXLMG macro that I've already found (and they simply refer back to the BookManager versions for the data

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

Dies this help http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/search/IXLYAMDA Patrick Patrick Hayward, Code Magus Limited (England reg. no. 4024745) Number 6, 69 Woodstock Road, Oxford, OX2 6EY, United Kingdom *Voice:* +44 1844 208127 *Mobile:* +44 7711 273014 *Fax:* +44

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

Thanks for that link! I find it incredibly frustrating that I couldn't find something like that myself using the links in KC, not through the apparent "search" facility! Thanks again. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer     -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/v2r1pdf/#IEA. On 01.07.2016 10:57, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: Data Areas -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards, Leopold Strauss, Team DEV-zOS, T: +43-2236-27551-331

IBM Knowledge Centre

I'm curious about other people's views. I'm struggling to find anything I want in the Knowledge Centre these days. I'm finding that if I happen to stumble across a list of manuals that look something like the old BookManager bookshelf, I have to bookmark it immediately for fear of never