Merge SMPPTFIN files of an shopZ order

2017-04-11 Thread K
Dear Listers The order I have downloaded from shopZ is about 1,3GB. The Ibm download Director has created in SMPPTFIN two files of 500 and a last one of 300MB. So, instead of one SMPMCS.pax I have three files file1.1of3, file2.2of3 and file3.3of3. How can I merge these file to one SMPMCS.pax?

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME

2017-04-11 Thread retired mainframer
If the dataset in question is not SMS managed, CAMLST/RENAME makes no effort to update the catalog. Therefore your UNCAT and CAT steps are necessary and should succeed. If the dataset in question is SMS managed, coordinates the required changes to the VTOC, the VTOC index, and the catalog.

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes: > The "dup" issue was if aggregate 3880-11 wasn't much larger than > processor memory, then nearly every page in 3880-11 would also in > processor memory. The converse if a page was needed not in processor > memory, then it would unlikely be in

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Jim Mulder
> > If a virtual page is not 'getmain assigned' by VSM it will never be backed > > by a real frame by RSM and an 0C4-11 will occur. When all virtual storage > > on a page is freed VSM will return the allocated AUX slot and real frame, > > if either have been allocated, and reset the 'getmain

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Jim Mulder
> What about the other side? Will GETMAIN return indication of success > only if the requested page slots can be committed? There is no consideration of aux slot availability when virtual storage is being allocated. There used to be some capability to reserve aux slots when an address space

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Jim Mulder
>Many moons ago code was implemented in ASM and RSM to slowly reclaim ASM >page slots for virtual pages that were changed in real storage. I have >vague memories of this functionality later being disabled for some >technical concern, but can't remember what it was. Slot Scavenger was

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Lizette Koehler wrote: The rule is NO UNCATALOGED DATASET in SMS MANAGED POOLs. It theoretically should not work if you try to uncatalog a dataset that is SMS Managed. This should fail. Lizette Hi Lizette, Well - this is my confusion then. In the documentation for the unCATALOG

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME

2017-04-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
The rule is NO UNCATALOGED DATASET in SMS MANAGED POOLs. It theoretically should not work if you try to uncatalog a dataset that is SMS Managed. This should fail. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes: > Not quite sure what you're saying. The old, constrained-memory > technique was usually to issue a variable (Vx) GETMAIN, specifying the > minimum required size as the low bound, and the maximum useful as the > high. Then the system returns the actual

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Lizette Koehler wrote: You may need to do the UNCATALOG if NON-SMS manged. You should not do the UNCATALOG if SMS manged. Personally, I would probably do the process with DFDSS and use RENUNC and CATALOG parm. Simpler, easier, and safer Lizette Thanks Lizette, I was hoping to

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME

2017-04-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
You may need to do the UNCATALOG if NON-SMS manged. You should not do the UNCATALOG if SMS manged. Personally, I would probably do the process with DFDSS and use RENUNC and CATALOG parm. Simpler, easier, and safer Lizette -Original Message- >From: Thomas David Rivers

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME

2017-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 19:42:39 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > The operations appear to be: > >Ensure the "to" data set doesn't exist. > TOCTTOU window? Is there any way to shut this? >Do a LOCATE on the "from" DSN to determine the source volume list >Do a RENAME with that volume

Re: z/OS PL/I 5.1 with "continuous delivery announced".

2017-04-11 Thread David Crayford
> On 11 Apr 2017, at 10:35 pm, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > 2.4.2 Windows XP > 2.4.3 Windows Vista > 2.4.4 Windows 7 > 2.4.5 Windows 8 and 8.1 > 2.4.6 Windows 10 > > ... similar for MacOS. Or have they stopped at Windows 10? Yes, Windows 10 is

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas David Rivers
retired mainframer wrote: When you say "a file in the VTOC," did you deliberately mean to distinguish that from a case where you rename a dataset in the catalog? Did the rename command specify a volume? Was the old DSN catalogued on the volume whose VTOC you are updating? Is the new DSN

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 16:45:10 -0500, Greg Dyck wrote: >On 4/11/2017 3:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> My understanding, ancient, probably outdated, and certainly naive is that >> there is little communication between GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and the paging >> subsystem. If a program touches a page that

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 April 2017 at 17:45, Greg Dyck wrote: > If a virtual page is not 'getmain assigned' by VSM it will never be backed > by a real frame by RSM and an 0C4-11 will occur. When all virtual storage > on a page is freed VSM will return the allocated AUX slot and real frame, >

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME

2017-04-11 Thread retired mainframer
When you say "a file in the VTOC," did you deliberately mean to distinguish that from a case where you rename a dataset in the catalog? Did the rename command specify a volume? Was the old DSN catalogued on the volume whose VTOC you are updating? Is the new DSN catalogued correctly? Did the

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Greg Dyck
On 4/11/2017 3:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: My understanding, ancient, probably outdated, and certainly naive is that there is little communication between GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and the paging subsystem. If a program touches a page that was never GETMAINed no error occurs; simply a page slot is

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Greg Dyck
On 4/11/2017 1:46 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: Part of the problem, I learned some time back at SHARE, is that there is no mechanism to 'reclaim' page slots that no longer need to remain on disk. Once storage gets paged out, it sits there like a sandbag until the owning task is stopped.

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Greg Dyck
On 4/11/2017 2:24 PM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. wrote: It has been a while since I worked on DB2, but it is sounding like your buffer pools are too big. With large memory systems everyone should have all of the production (and, ideally, test systems too) buffer pools define with PGFIX(YES)

Re: FTP TLS options

2017-04-11 Thread Lester, Bob
Frank, Good find! I'm saving this one! BobL -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 3:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FTP TLS options [ EXTERNAL ] So one of

Re: FTP TLS options

2017-04-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
So one of our system programmers found an alternative to using AT-TLS to enable use of TLS v1.2 with the z/OS FTP client. All you have to do is set an LE environment variable GSK_PROTOCOL_TLSV1_2=1. Since the default (non ATTLS) SSL/TLS for FTP uses z/OS System SSL it is affected by (I

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 April 2017 at 16:26, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > If a program touches a page that was never GETMAINed no error > occurs; simply a page slot is allocated up to the limit of the REGION > parameter. Conversely, on FREEMAIN the page slots are not

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME

2017-04-11 Thread Edward Gould
> On Apr 11, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > I've got some old code here that is doing a strange > thing trying to rename a non-VSAM file. > > After invoking the DFSMS RENAME service; which > has met with success (return-code is 0) to rename > a file in the

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-04-11, at 12:47, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > > Part of the problem, I learned some time back at SHARE, is that there is no > mechanism to 'reclaim' page slots that no longer need to remain on disk. Once > storage gets paged out, it sits there like a sandbag until the owning task is >

unCATALOG after a RENAME

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas David Rivers
I've got some old code here that is doing a strange thing trying to rename a non-VSAM file. After invoking the DFSMS RENAME service; which has met with success (return-code is 0) to rename a file in the VTOC from the "old" name to the "new"name; it then goes on to un-CATALOG the "old" name.

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 12:56:39 -0400, Tom Conley wrote: >On 4/11/2017 11:58 AM, william janulin wrote: >> I should have stayed retired. > >Sorry I haven't been able to respond sooner in more detail. I think our >confusion (at least mine, anyway) stems from the fact that z/OS handles >ASCII and

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Chris I think that's entirely possible, I am no DB2 person, but I have installed and configured tools for DB2 change data capture, DB2 to UDB, DB2 to SQL, and I think the DBA's at least my DBA's define the buffer pools larger for that purpose? I also have large frame area defined of 7740M

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
It has been a while since I worked on DB2, but it is sounding like your buffer pools are too big. Consider this: DB2 will read a required page into 'new' buffer pool page before it will invalidate a page it already has in storage. Now we have a physical page in use. The system periodically

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/11/2017 8:54 AM, Doug Henry wrote: Hi Tom, We have a pair of SCM cards (so in case one fails). Each card has 1.4 Terabytes of memory. For an lpar that has 524GB online and the SCM online is 384G. As for the cost I don't really know. ISTR a pair of flash cards is somewhere around

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Right there with you - last IPL of the prod system was Feb 26th, all LOCAL page datasets are sitting @ 20%, I was told this was NORMAL for DB2 - Original Message - From: "Tom Conley" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 1:52:06 PM

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Certainly sounds like requirement time. We see the same issue particularly on one of our Dev systems with 14 DB2 members on it. Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 623 869 5523 Corporate Tieline - 85523 If you feel in control you just aren't going

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Tom Conley
On 4/11/2017 2:46 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: The problem we face is 'paging creep'. Right after IPL, systems show 0% ASM usage for some period of time. Then usage starts to creep up until we get warnings, then eventually hit the no-more-SVC-dumps condition. Adding memory to an LPAR slows the

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
The problem we face is 'paging creep'. Right after IPL, systems show 0% ASM usage for some period of time. Then usage starts to creep up until we get warnings, then eventually hit the no-more-SVC-dumps condition. Adding memory to an LPAR slows the creep but cannot seem to stop it altogether.

Re: CPU Timerons/Seconds vs Wall-clock Time

2017-04-11 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/9/2017 8:48 AM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: For example, if an MVS job ran and consumed 10 CPU seconds (SMF 30 I think), can I assume that it at least took 10 seconds of elapsed time to run? Not unless you're 100% certain there was no multitasking and nothing was redirected to a specialty

Re: DF/EF and DFP was Re: z/OS PL/I 5.1 with "continuous delivery announced".

2017-04-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
The term I remember was 'delta tapes'. You could only get them by hand from your SE. It was a chaotic time. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Tom Conley
On 4/11/2017 1:16 PM, van der Grijn, Bart , B wrote: Largest LPARs we have are about 200GB with 6 MOD27 per LPAR. They all run DB2 for distributed workloads plus some application specific subsystems. The two busiest of those LPARs each run one DB2 member of the same DB2 data sharing group with

Re: DF/EF and DFP was Re: z/OS PL/I 5.1 with "continuous delivery announced".

2017-04-11 Thread Edward Gould
> On Apr 11, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Clark Morris wrote: > > [Default] On 11 Apr 2017 06:12:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 8:10 AM, David Crayford wrote: >>

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Largest LPARs we have are about 200GB with 6 MOD27 per LPAR. They all run DB2 for distributed workloads plus some application specific subsystems. The two busiest of those LPARs each run one DB2 member of the same DB2 data sharing group with a frame occupancy of about 39M. Next to no paging.

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Allan Staller
Don't forget about PAGTOTL in SYS1.PARMLIB(IEASYS00). Default is 40. Extra slots reserve ESQA, so don't be overly generous. HTH, I had the total number of pages allocated and available in the current paging subsystem, so I calculated the available pages with 22 more mod-9's and then divided

DF/EF and DFP was Re: z/OS PL/I 5.1 with "continuous delivery announced".

2017-04-11 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 11 Apr 2017 06:12:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) wrote: >On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 8:10 AM, David Crayford wrote: > >> On 11/04/2017 9:01 PM, John McKown wrote: >> >>>

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread Tom Conley
On 4/11/2017 11:58 AM, william janulin wrote: I should have stayed retired. Bill, Sorry I haven't been able to respond sooner in more detail. I think our confusion (at least mine, anyway) stems from the fact that z/OS handles ASCII and UNICODE already. If you transfer your ASCII and

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 12:36:10 -0400, Tom Conley wrote: >I had the total number of pages allocated and available in the current >paging subsystem, so I calculated the available pages with 22 more >mod-9's and then divided the allocated pages into the new total pages

Re: SYNCSORT syntax error but I do not see the error

2017-04-11 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Never mind, I just saw it myself. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth. Missing quote and wrong literal length on the first "in" parameter in the INOUT list. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353

SYNCSORT syntax error but I do not see the error

2017-04-11 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Hi all, I have a SYNCSORT input I have used before to change dates in records, but today I am getting a syntax error. I don't see the error though, would someone point it out to me please? SYSIN : SORT FIELDS=(5,136,CH,A) INREC FINDREP=(INOUT=(C'1700407,C'170411', *

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Tom Conley
On 4/11/2017 12:03 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Tom How did you determine you needed 22 more MOD9s. Is there a formula you used? Lizette Hi Lizette, I had the total number of pages allocated and available in the current paging subsystem, so I calculated the available pages with 22 more

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:46:40 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: >Gone are the halcyon days when we could run an LPAR with three mod-3's >as the local paging subsystem. With today's large memory sizes, I'm >faced with having to completely rethink my paging subsystems. I've

Re: What are mainframes

2017-04-11 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
dcrayf...@gmail.com (David Crayford) writes: > On a z13 that's stretching plausibility to breaking point! last several mainframe generations haven't even bothered to give rate, just relative to previous generation: z900, 16 processors, 2.5BIPS (156MIPS/proc), Dec2000 z990, 32 processors, 9BIPS,

Re: Odd behavior with OCOPY

2017-04-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
replying to myself, I re-read your post, duh! I see the conversion is not what you want sorry - Original Message - From: "Carmen Vitullo" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 10:02:41 AM Subject: Re: Odd behavior with OCOPY Have you

Re: NJE between two different NETIDs

2017-04-11 Thread Cieri, Anthony
A recent SHARE NJE presentation from the 2013 SHARE in San Francisco

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Tom How did you determine you needed 22 more MOD9s. Is there a formula you used? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Pinnacle > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 7:47 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread william janulin
I should have stayed retired. On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:54 AM, Charles Mills wrote: No one is trying to put you down. We're trying to help. Your question is way too general for an email forum type answer. We just do not know the sort of answer to give. Take a

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Doug Henry
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 11:31:32 -0400, Tom Conley wrote: >On 4/11/2017 11:20 AM, Doug Henry wrote: >> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:46:40 -0400, Pinnacle >> wrote: >> >> I wondered what the rest of >>> you are doing with your paging subsystems in

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread Charles Mills
No one is trying to put you down. We're trying to help. Your question is way too general for an email forum type answer. We just do not know the sort of answer to give. Take a look at the Unicode Services manual and see if anything in there helps. CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Tom Conley
On 4/11/2017 11:20 AM, Doug Henry wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:46:40 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: I wondered what the rest of you are doing with your paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory sizes. Regards, Tom Conley Hi Tom, We use Storage Class Memory to solve

Re: FTP TLS options

2017-04-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I'll pass that along to those in charge of such things. :-) Thanks. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Conley Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: FTP TLS options

2017-04-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
My testing (and reading of ambiguous documentation) leads me to believe that FTP on z/OS, without the use of AT-TLS, supports TLS v1.0 but not v1.2. This was verified by the fact that I can connect (as a z/OS client) to a v1.0 configured server, but when v1.0 is eliminated (leaving only v1.2

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Doug Henry
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:46:40 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: I wondered what the rest of >you are doing with your paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory sizes. > >Regards, >Tom Conley Hi Tom, We use Storage Class Memory to solve the problem. Doug Henry USBANK

Re: Odd behavior with OCOPY

2017-04-11 Thread Frank Chu
Yep. Doesn't make a difference. Frank On 4/11/2017 11:02 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: Have you tried the translate options in the OCOPY command one example I have OCOPY INDD(EBCIN) OUTDD(ASCOUT) CONVERT((BPXFX311)) FROM1047 Carmen - Original Message - From: "Frank

Re: Odd behavior with OCOPY

2017-04-11 Thread Frank Chu
Thanks. I'll cross post over there. Frank On 4/11/2017 11:12 AM, Pew, Curtis G wrote: On Apr 11, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Frank Chu wrote: Please forgive me if this the wrong group to post this question to, I Didn't find any dedicated USS/OMVS mailing list. This is the

Re: Odd behavior with OCOPY

2017-04-11 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Apr 11, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Frank Chu wrote: > > Please forgive me if this the wrong group to post this question to, I Didn't > find any dedicated USS/OMVS mailing list. This is the address of the MVS-OpenEdition mailing list: mvs...@vm.marist.edu -- Pew, Curtis G

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread william janulin
OK, let's close out this thread. I thought this was a simple question but, obviously, I do not know anything. On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:00 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: When you say Serena person, are you referring to a vendor support person? or someone who uses

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread zMan
You think Micro Focus had all the Serena folks disappeared or mind-wiped? C'mon. That's just silly. On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > When you say Serena person, are you referring to a vendor support person? > or someone who uses Serena? > I just saw

Re: Odd behavior with OCOPY

2017-04-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Have you tried the translate options in the OCOPY command one example I have OCOPY INDD(EBCIN) OUTDD(ASCOUT) CONVERT((BPXFX311)) FROM1047 Carmen - Original Message - From: "Frank Chu" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:48:48 AM

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
When you say Serena person, are you referring to a vendor support person? or someone who uses Serena? I just saw Serena is now part of Micro Focus, if that's true I don't doubt they have no clue. check the Community forum for Serena, they have more knowledge and can answer specific questions.

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread william janulin
Well, it was a SERENA person that asked me the question On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 10:33 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: That's actually a question for Serena, the vendor, last time I installed and supported Changeman it was at version 7, and did have a Eclipse plug in

Odd behavior with OCOPY

2017-04-11 Thread Frank Chu
Please forgive me if this the wrong group to post this question to, I Didn't find any dedicated USS/OMVS mailing list. One of my colleagues is using the default sh shell and when he uses OSHELL to run some USS utilities in batch, the output he is get gets back is in ASCII. I run bash and

Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

2017-04-11 Thread Pinnacle
Gone are the halcyon days when we could run an LPAR with three mod-3's as the local paging subsystem. With today's large memory sizes, I'm faced with having to completely rethink my paging subsystems. I've currently got a 133GB LPAR with 18 mod-9 locals at 44%. I'm going to add 22 more

Re: z/OS PL/I 5.1 with "continuous delivery announced".

2017-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:10:09 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >On 11/04/2017 9:01 PM, John McKown wrote: >> http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/6/897/ENUS217-186/index.html_locale=en >> >> Just looks like it is announcing that z/OS PL/I 5.1 (and above?) will go >>

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
That's actually a question for Serena, the vendor, last time I installed and supported Changeman it was at version 7, and did have a Eclipse plug in to support Java,.net and and other ASCII type of platform the application or at this point the vendor product this the tool that needs to support

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread william janulin
My user raised this question. They are using our mainframe server with z-OS (ZMF Changeman application). They referred me to that developerworks link I posted in an earlier email on this thread. The question they raised, and I quote "Is is possible to configure our M/F serned xxx.xxx.com to

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread Charles Mills
z/OS processes EBCDIC, ASCII and Unicode input every day at nearly every shop. Your question is way too general for a meaningful answer in a public email forum. What more exactly are you trying to accomplish? "What's the problem?" CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity.

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 13:40:32 +, william janulin wrote: >To answer the question about what sort of portal, I would say all of the >above. I thought this was a somewhat general question as to >whether or not z/OS will support both non-ascii and ascii at the same time.

Re: AT-TLS setup question

2017-04-11 Thread Tom Conley
On 4/11/2017 9:17 AM, Ernest Nachtigall wrote: I have two clients, one running SSLv3, the other AT-TLSv1.2 These are ATM machines in my test environment. The SSLv3 support uses a user module, the other is using AT-TLS already. I need to temporarily support the SSLv3 client to ease migration

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread william janulin
To answer the question about what sort of portal, I would say all of the above. I thought this was a somewhat general question as to whether or not z/OS will support both non-ascii and ascii at the same time. Regards, Bill J. On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:34 AM, Charles Mills

Re: NJE between two different NETIDs

2017-04-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
There are Share presentations as well as the JES2 Init and Tuning GUIDE and REFERENCE manuals. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of william janulin > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 6:29 AM > To:

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

2017-04-11 Thread Charles Mills
The most common input to mainframes is non-ASCII, that is, EBCDIC. "Input" via what sort of portal? FTP? TSO? Tape? Web server? Keyboard? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of william janulin Sent: Monday, April

Re: NJE between two different NETIDs

2017-04-11 Thread william janulin
Which manual has the instructions for setting up NJE in JES2? Looks like I will be going through a similar exercise at some point in the near future? Bill J. On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:03 AM, "Cieri, Anthony" wrote:     It is possible to add all three

Re: z/OS 1.13 to z/OS 2.2 Comm Server woes

2017-04-11 Thread Tim Deller
If you were using SSL then you may have to add SSLV3 to the secure ports in the TN3270 parm. It now defaults to NOSSLV3. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: What are mainframes

2017-04-11 Thread David Crayford
Parwez mentioned HPC but it wasn't mentioned in the article which is a tad disingenuous. HPC is High Performance Computing which is basically a supercomputer. On 11/04/2017 9:22 PM, Bill Ashton wrote: Wow...23 quadrillion calculations every second! At that speed, it should be able to come up

Re: z/OS PL/I 5.1 with "continuous delivery announced".

2017-04-11 Thread David Crayford
On 11/04/2017 9:13 PM, John McKown wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 8:10 AM, David Crayford wrote: On 11/04/2017 9:01 PM, John McKown wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ ssi/rep_ca/6/897/ENUS217-186/index.html_locale=en Just looks like it

Re: What are mainframes

2017-04-11 Thread Bill Ashton
Wow...23 quadrillion calculations every second! At that speed, it should be able to come up with an answer before the question is even asked! On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 8:42 AM, David Crayford wrote: > On 11/04/2017 8:34 PM, Parwez Hamid wrote: > >> The Met Office a HPC and 2

Re: z/OS PL/I 5.1 with "continuous delivery announced".

2017-04-11 Thread Richards, Robert B.
> Why am I shuddering and thinking "shades of JES2 level set PTFs"? Of course, > nothing will heal the scars from DF/EF. Good memory, John! Both of those occurred around the same time (1985?). The DFP one, IIRC, was referred to as a "delta". :-) Bob

Re: z/OS PL/I 5.1 with "continuous delivery announced".

2017-04-11 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 8:10 AM, David Crayford wrote: > On 11/04/2017 9:01 PM, John McKown wrote: > >> http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ >> ssi/rep_ca/6/897/ENUS217-186/index.html_locale=en >> >> Just looks like it is announcing that z/OS PL/I 5.1

Re: z/OS PL/I 5.1 with "continuous delivery announced".

2017-04-11 Thread David Crayford
On 11/04/2017 9:01 PM, John McKown wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/6/897/ENUS217-186/index.html_locale=en Just looks like it is announcing that z/OS PL/I 5.1 (and above?) will go with the new "continuous delivery" that IBM is embracing instead of

Re: NJE between two different NETIDs

2017-04-11 Thread Cieri, Anthony
It is possible to add all three definitions (APPL, DESTID and CONNECT) dynamically via the $ADD JES2 command. You will also need to define the remote site as a NODE to JES2. If you have a node definition available, you can use the $T command to change the NODE parameters to your desired

z/OS PL/I 5.1 with "continuous delivery announced".

2017-04-11 Thread John McKown
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/6/897/ENUS217-186/index.html_locale=en Just looks like it is announcing that z/OS PL/I 5.1 (and above?) will go with the new "continuous delivery" that IBM is embracing instead of period new releases. -- "Irrigation of the

z/VSE 6.2 preview announcement.

2017-04-11 Thread John McKown
Not a lot of z/VSE talk here, but for the few who use it, a z/VSE 6.2 preview has been announced. http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/1/897/ENUS217-091/index.html=en_locale=en -- "Irrigation of the land with seawater desalinated by fusion power is ancient.

Re: What are mainframes

2017-04-11 Thread David Crayford
On 11/04/2017 8:34 PM, Parwez Hamid wrote: The Met Office a HPC and 2 x IBM LinuxOne Servers. The HPC does the lager part of the number crunching. http://www.itproportal.com/news/met-office-gets-new-mainframe-can-handle-23000-trillion-calculations-per-second/ "According to a press release,

Re: What are mainframes

2017-04-11 Thread Parwez Hamid
The Met Office a HPC and 2 x IBM LinuxOne Servers. The HPC does the lager part of the number crunching. http://www.itproportal.com/news/met-office-gets-new-mainframe-can-handle-23000-trillion-calculations-per-second/ -- For

NJE between two different NETIDs

2017-04-11 Thread Gilson Cesar de Oliveira
Dear list: We are planning to establish a NJE connection between two different NETIDs sites in SNA and reviewing the steps we faced in one point related to the definition of the NODE. My initial understanding is that we have to configure (to add) in my JES2 configuration the following