Re: Researching Destination z article on non-US mainframes

2017-08-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
I'm largely in agreement with Brian and Martin, although I can think of some more country-specific differences, in no particular order: 1. Encryption still has some "odd" national boundaries. 2. Network reach and quality still vary a lot, and thus branch/channel architectures vary to some

Re: Researching Destination z article on non-US mainframes

2017-08-10 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Gabe, some points to check out. I am based in Singapore, and have been here for the last 20 years supporting a large mainframe datacenter. o. Daylight Savings Time changes - we don't do that at the system level. Any country that does have DST changes must have supporting code in

Re: How to erase TS7740 data before scrap

2017-08-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
The IBM TS7740 is a virtual tape library. 1. How about DFSMSrmm EDGINERS ERASE? Other media managers, e.g. CA 1, have analogous functions. 2. If you have DITTO/ESA, there's an ERT (Erase Tape) feature that might work. 3. You could completely refill the virtual tapes with new "data." Maybe an

Re: How to erase TS7740 data before scrap

2017-08-10 Thread Edward Gould
> On Aug 10, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > > How are tracks provisioned? > If fixed provisioning, then ICKDSF TRKFMT CYL(0,14) CYCLES(1) will > write b'', b'', and b'01010101' or b'10101010' for the > full track for three erasing writes to each

Re: How to erase TS7740 data before scrap

2017-08-10 Thread Mike Schwab
How are tracks provisioned? If fixed provisioning, then ICKDSF TRKFMT CYL(0,14) CYCLES(1) will write b'', b'', and b'01010101' or b'10101010' for the full track for three erasing writes to each track. Increase 1 for more erases. Erase all tracks in all cylinders of all volumes.

Re: MSGIEW2678S Module contains one or more deferred classes

2017-08-10 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I can't find any specific documentation. I learned about them "through the grapevine". From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Giliad Wilf <00d50942efa9-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 12:29

Re: MSGIEW2678S Module contains one or more deferred classes

2017-08-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 August 2017 at 08:05, Peter Relson wrote: > > And the resulting IEW2678S makes sense in that context, because there > is nowhere known to IEWBLODI for the deferred classes to be loaded > from. So asking IBM to support deferred classes in IEWBLODI (or > IEWBLOAD, which is

Re: list of cobol load modules and their cobol version

2017-08-10 Thread Roy Reynolds
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Re: COBOL STOP RUN enhancement

2017-08-10 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Unfortunately not for free. You can buy it from ISO, ANSI, or other standards site for your country. ISO: https://www.iso.org/standard/51416.html - CHF 198 ANSI: https://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetail.aspx?sku=INCITS%2FISO%2FIEC+1989%3A2014+%5B2014%5D - USD 133 IBM has already implemented a

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the suggestion Peter, but we are currently only at V2.1 and I don't know when we will next be upgrading or to what version. Is that feature going to be (or has been?) back-ported to V2.1? Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks Joel, I think someone else also suggested a similar approach. We're considering the alternatives but will likely not use a fee-based commercial product due to budget constraints. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: COBOL STOP RUN enhancement

2017-08-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Nope. ISO charges for everything, and it is not usually cheap either. BTDTGTTS The only possible "free" place I can think of might be a university or college CS department that already paid for it and makes it available to CS students. But non-students/faculty might not have access even

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-10 Thread Rob Barbour
Hi Peter, There is a product called P-Tracker that will give you that information. Since it "see's" everything loaded it can give you the program and call sequences as well as when, who, where, it was loaded.People use this for asset management, but programmers use it to determine call

Re: COBOL STOP RUN enhancement

2017-08-10 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Frank Swarbrick < frank.swarbr...@outlook.com> wrote: > This would not be an extension. It is part of the COBOL 2002 and COBOL > 2014 ISO standards. It's up the the implementer to define the behavior. I > am suggesting the behavior. > ​Hum, is there a place

Re: COBOL STOP RUN enhancement

2017-08-10 Thread Frank Swarbrick
This would not be an extension. It is part of the COBOL 2002 and COBOL 2014 ISO standards. It's up the the implementer to define the behavior. I am suggesting the behavior. Is it worth spending time/money on? Well, that's a different question. ;) Frank

Re: ISPF LINE COMMAND

2017-08-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 09:05:25 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >Put a "C" (Copy)on line 2. On lines 3 through 11 put an "AK" (After Keep) >and a single "A" (After) on line 12.​ > Can this be used in connection with the eXXclude command to copy before/after (all) selected lines? -- gil

Re: Testing zOS 2.3 ?

2017-08-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:26:15 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >Peter wrote: >>>Is anyone performing any kind of testing on zOS 2.3 and found any defects or >>>any gotchas ? > >Lizette gave you a good URL (summary of changes) for your info. > >Here is another interesting URL (what is new for

Re: COBOL STOP RUN enhancement

2017-08-10 Thread David W Noon
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:04:02 -0500, John Mckown (john.archie.mck...@gmail.com) wrote about "Re: COBOL STOP RUN enhancement" (in

How to erase TS7740 data before scrap

2017-08-10 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
We are replacing IBM TS7740 with new TS7760 and need to do a Cluster Cleanup (FC 4017 – This feature is a factory default button, clear all data, all tables, etc..). IBM says that this feature is withdrawn and no more available. What can we use in place of it or any suggestion about how to

Re: ISPF LINE COMMAND

2017-08-10 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
For more completeness, there is also BK and OK. See Help - Line commands - Move/Copy commands. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John McKown > Sent: 10 August, 2017 16:18 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >

Re: ISPF LINE COMMAND

2017-08-10 Thread Burrell, Todd
I believe there is a way to do this with AK, but it requires commands on each line. Not painful for a few lines, but ugly for say 500 lines. Here's a REXX exec I have that will read dataset names from an input file and create output cards. You can alter the cards to be whatever you want.

Re: ISPF LINE COMMAND

2017-08-10 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Feller, Paul wrote: > John is correct.. > > This is how I've used it. > > Command ===> > ** ** > c1 Line to copy > ak0002 Other lines > ak0003 Other lines > ak0004 Other lines > a5 Other lines >

Re: ISPF LINE COMMAND

2017-08-10 Thread Feller, Paul
John is correct.. This is how I've used it. Command ===> ** ** c1 Line to copy ak0002 Other lines ak0003 Other lines ak0004 Other lines a5 Other lines 06 Other

Re: ISPF LINE COMMAND

2017-08-10 Thread John Dawes
John,I tried it out and it did what I asked for.  A massive thanks. From: John McKown To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2017, 10:05 Subject: Re: ISPF LINE COMMAND On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:55 AM, John Dawes <

Re: ISPF LINE COMMAND

2017-08-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
@John, I thought I knew all the line commands. Now I need to run over to z/OS and try this out. Thanks for the info Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John McKown > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:05

Re: ISPF LINE COMMAND

2017-08-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am not aware of such a feature. However, you could write a REXX/ISPF Function that will generate the control cards with an ISPF SKEL. I have done that many times when I needed to create IDCAM DEFINE statements that spanned more than one line. Also, if you have not done so, there is an ISPF

Re: ISPF LINE COMMAND

2017-08-10 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:55 AM, John Dawes < 00ff0e22811f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > G'Day, > Is there a line command equivalent to ROSCOE line command using CR? Let > me explain. > 01 HSEND FIXCDS D TESTJOB.D286.T2041375.TTQM0003 DELETE > - > 02

ISPF LINE COMMAND

2017-08-10 Thread John Dawes
  G'Day, Is there a line command equivalent to ROSCOE line command using CR?  Let me explain. 01 HSEND FIXCDS D TESTJOB.D286.T2041375.TTQM0003   DELETE - 02    PATCH(X'06' BITS(0.1.)) ODS(SYSTEST.FIXCDS)  03 HSEND FIXCDS D

Re: Testing zOS 2.3 ?

2017-08-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter wrote: >>Is anyone performing any kind of testing on zOS 2.3 and found any defects or >>any gotchas ? Lizette gave you a good URL (summary of changes) for your info. Here is another interesting URL (what is new for consideration) for you:

Re: Testing zOS 2.3 ?

2017-08-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter wrote: >Is anyone performing any kind of testing on zOS 2.3 and found any defects or >any gotchas ? It depends... but you (and the rest of prospective z/OS v2.3 users) will _not_ get any info at this stage. What do you have in mind? What type of tests? From what z/OS version do you

Re: COBOL STOP RUN enhancement

2017-08-10 Thread Allan Staller
Both methods would need to be supported. How many COBOL programs exist with "MOVE x to RETURN-CODE. STOP RUN." So what (other than standards "compliance") is the benefit to IBM to implement? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-10 Thread Edward Gould
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 3:35 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > >> Softaudit says it can do it, they would have to front end the SVC. > I believe they do or did. > > Then I would suggest you look elsewhere. Back in Y2K era a package was bought over my objections that did that very

Re: Testing zOS 2.3 ?

2017-08-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
I guess I am not sure what you are looking for. When z/OS V2.3 is GA then it would have gone through QA by IBM and Pre Release sites. Any issues would have been addressed at that point if they were found. Next, the migration guide for z/OS V2.3 that would be presented at Share which will

Re: MSGIEW2678S Module contains one or more deferred classes

2017-08-10 Thread Peter Relson
And the resulting IEW2678S makes sense in that context, because there is nowhere known to IEWBLODI for the deferred classes to be loaded from. So asking IBM to support deferred classes in IEWBLODI (or IEWBLOAD, which is the same thing except without the IDENTIFY), makes little sense. What might

Re: COBOL STOP RUN enhancement

2017-08-10 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > I am curious to hear opinions on something. The current COBOL standard > has an enhancement to the STOP RUN statement. There are two new options, > the ERROR phrase and the NORMAL phrase. My first thought

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-10 Thread Peter Relson
You could also write something of your own, as of z/OS 2.2, using the CSVFETCH exit which was developed specifically to help get products out of front-ending the contents supervisor SVC's. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design

Re: Testing zOS 2.3 ?

2017-08-10 Thread Tom Conley
On 8/10/2017 2:04 AM, Peter wrote: Hi Is anyone performing any kind of testing on zOS 2.3 and found any defects or any gotchas ? Peter They could tell ya, but then they'd have to kill ya. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Researching Destination z article on non-US mainframes

2017-08-10 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Ditto! In my case, lots of usermods for local language stuff (Arabic). The biggest difference is usually in hardware costs (Uplifts by EMEA, local country, even local branch). Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: Researching Destination z article on non-US mainframes

2017-08-10 Thread Martin Packer
In my (also) worldwide experience the challenges my customers face are VERY similar wherever you are. Cheers, Martin Sent from my iPad > On 10 Aug 2017, at 09:04, Brian Westerman wrote: > > I have installed and supported mainframes all over the world, all over

Re: Researching Destination z article on non-US mainframes

2017-08-10 Thread Brian Westerman
I have installed and supported mainframes all over the world, all over Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, Middle East, South America, USA, and even in Iceland, Greenland and the South (and almost-north) Poles and I don't really understand the question I guess. The installation and support is

Re: Researching Destination z article on non-US mainframes

2017-08-10 Thread ITschak Mugzach
if i recall correctly, `there is a brazilian startup that uses a mainframe as a gaming server. Itschak On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Gabe Goldberg wrote: > Hi, Gord -- thanks for requesting clarification! > > For this article, I'm interested in IBM mainframe usage outside

Re: MSGIEW2678S Module contains one or more deferred classes

2017-08-10 Thread Giliad Wilf
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 22:18:51 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >There was a post to ibm-main by Allan Kielstra of IBM compiler development (I >think) on May 10, 2017 (How are Program Object sections with Defer attribute >loaded?) that discusses how the writable static

Testing zOS 2.3 ?

2017-08-10 Thread Peter
Hi Is anyone performing any kind of testing on zOS 2.3 and found any defects or any gotchas ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: