Re: RSU maintenance strategy - Need expert suggestions

Hi All, Thanks very much for your timely and quick response. Yes have proposed a strategy to the customer and will be reviewed by early next year. I will have some follow-up questions regarding the same and will post to get some advise. Thanks again. On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Edward Gould

Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

Interesting detail: why does this work on z13 only and not on z14? Grtn, Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Jim Mulder > Sent: 15 December, 2017 3:46 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: RSM

AW: Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

>If you obtain a smaller amount, get it backed, and then release it, you may be more likely to observe the frames being retained. Thanks. I (wrongly, it seems) assumed it is more likely to happen with large areas. -- Peter Hunkeler

AW: Re: AW: Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

>It avoids the issuance of IPTE (an expensive instruction when many CPs are >present) for each frame... I know. Had I not been too lazy to open the PoOp, and read what exactly the IPTE does, I had written "it avoids updating the TLB..." instead of "it probably avoids...". I promis to do

Converting programs to accommodate 8-character userids and prefixes

Hi Folks,     I'm commenting on Ed Gould's comments.  Thanks Ed.  Much obliged.     I've used MVT in the old days, but I'm not an expert from then.  A few years ago, I was experimenting with the ACCOUNT command to create new userids in SYS1.UADS (on z/OS), and I noticed that the size of each

Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

RSM will free frames if available frames are in short supply. If you obtain a smaller amount, get it backed, and then release it, you may be more likely to observe the frames being retained. Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie NY > Running z/OS V2.2

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

How many printers are on your system? The system I had had 1400 printers Sent from my iPhone Sorry for the autocorrect issues > On Dec 14, 2017, at 19:34, Tony Harminc wrote: > >> On 14 December 2017 at 18:18, Jesse 1 Robinson >> wrote: >> Thanks

Re: DFSORT: RACFICE query - how to extract all commands containing some text value

>>> Bruce My final JCL:- Bruce, I sent you a JCL offline which does all the reporting as well as uses symbols and the userids can be dynamically passed. I don't have an input data that has all the events that you are looking for. >>> Martin Packer : This, I think, could use some Symbols

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of the products mentioned together with 'ratings' and comments. I was surprised at the volume of NPF endorsements; I didn't even know about it. A lot of us choose a product for a particular purpose and stop window shopping, never realizing that

Re: Converting programs to accommodate 8-character userids and prefixes

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Sam Golob wrote: > >As you probably know by now, z/OS 2.3 has introduced the possibility of > having 8-character TSO userids and 8-character TSO prefixes. These name > fields were previously limited to 7 characters, ever since TSO came

Re: AW: Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

On 12/14/2017 1:13 PM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: The APAR decribes that marking frames as freemained frames avoids signaling all processors, which does not scale well with the large number of processors in z13 and newer machines. It probably avoids updating the TLBs. It avoids the issuance of

AW: Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

>My guess is that the TLB has not been updated yet. That save performance as the unallocation can wait until all CPs running in the address space have had normal interrupts to process the changes. The unallocation can wait until RSM sees a need to put them onto the available frames queue. It

AW: Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

>This not much different from the old situation, where you getmain a page, >freemain half of it, so the frame still remains valid and is fully accessible. Yes, it is much different! In the case you describe, you will find the page is allocated in the VSMDATA report. With freemained frames,

Converting programs to accommodate 8-character userids and prefixes

Hi Folks, (I'm sorry that my previous post was sent incomplete--pressed the wrong key)    As you probably know by now, z/OS 2.3 has introduced the possibility of having 8-character TSO userids and 8-character TSO prefixes.  These name fields were previously limited to 7 characters, ever since

Re: "make" question

On 2017-12-14 13:56, Jack J. Woehr wrote: On 12/14/2017 7:25 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote: All the make tools share an annoying reliance on tab characters. This is somehow more pernicious than punch-card-column dependencies in traditional IBM tools? :) Neither is great, but at least you can see

Converting programs to accommodate 8-character userids and prefixes

Hi Folks,    As you probably know by now, z/OS 2.3 has introduced the possibility of having 8-character TSO userids and 8-character TSO prefixes.  These name fields were previously limited to 7 characters, ever since TSO came into existence.  (I think the reason for the limitation was that

Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 14:04:02 + "Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM" wrote: :>What does this exactly mean: "freemained frames"? Is it just a counter or do they refer to specific frames, that are kept at hand in the address space for faster assignment of new frame requests?

Re: "make" question

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Jack J. Woehr wrote: > On 12/14/2017 7:25 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote: > >> All the make tools share an annoying reliance on tab characters. > > > This is somehow more pernicious than punch-card-column dependencies in > traditional IBM tools? :) ​IMO,

Re: "make" question

On 12/14/2017 7:25 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote: All the make tools share an annoying reliance on tab characters. This is somehow more pernicious than punch-card-column dependencies in traditional IBM tools? :) -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of

Re: z/OS Explorer connections - which to use?

I use the z/OS remote system, for me, it gives me everything I need, JES, mainframe datasets, and USS, TSO, and limited ISPF for 2.1 and 2.2 the client side worked the same for me. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Peter x23353 Farley" To:

Re: "make" question

Interesting workaround. Not sure I'll use it, but good to know about. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John McKown Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

z/OS Explorer connections - which to use?

Hi All, I am re-installing z/OS and CICS Explorer on a new PC today, and there are three choices for connection to our z/OS system: z/OS FTP z/OS Remote System z/OSMF I know the limitations of the FTP connection (our FTP does not let us use JES level 2) and the last time I installed the

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

MacKinney JQP does. Each destination has its own setup and multiple destinations can point to the same printer. This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT Group Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliates

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

For each NPF printer, I have multiple forms set up with routing records that point to different PCL exits to control size, and orientation. It could easily be done with different destination names too. Dana On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:42:53 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

This question has been floated here also. The main concern is that in our VPS implementation--decades old--the user can control the output format via printer name. So DEST=prt-name-D will print double-sided; prt-name-L will print landscape; and so on. We have built lots of code to support this

Re: AW: Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

On 12/14/2017 6:47 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: See OA46291. The APAR is for z/OS V2.1 and V1.13, it is in the base for z/OS V2.2. Also this great write-up put together by Elipda Tzortatos http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/OA46291.pdf With this new function, RSM (SRM?) may decide

Re: [External Sender] LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Ditto on JQP here at the University of Flordia. Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 UFIT University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pew, Curtis G Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:16 AM To:

Re: [External Sender] LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Another handy place to look for competing products http://www.lookupmainframesoftware.com/ This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT Group Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliates (collectively, “CIT”), and are

Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler > Sent: 14 December, 2017 15:47 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: AW: Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply? > > > >What does this exactly mean:

Re: [External Sender] LRS VPS Printer Replacment

On Dec 14, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Porowski, Kenneth wrote: > > Another vote for MacKinney's JQP. We’ve been happy with it too. -- Pew, Curtis G curtis@austin.utexas.edu ITS Systems/Core/Administrative Services

Re: "make" question

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 09:25:45 -0500, Gord Tomlin wrote: > > > >All the make tools share an annoying reliance on tab characters. > > > Actually, some (I don't recall which) will accept

Re: "make" question

On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 09:25:45 -0500, Gord Tomlin wrote: > >All the make tools share an annoying reliance on tab characters. > Actually, some (I don't recall which) will accept indention by blanks. Tab was a bad design choice. -- gil

Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > > >What does this exactly mean: "freemained frames"? Is it just a counter or > do they refer to specific frames, that are kept at hand in the address > space for faster assignment of new frame requests? > > > >I am not

Re: [External Sender] Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Another vote for MacKinney's JQP. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] [External Sender] Re: LRS VPS Printer

Re: [External Sender] Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Carroll, William < carro...@grangeinsurance.com> wrote: > Another vote for NPF. I have the same exact situation as Dana. Works > well. We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same > devices. Not one issue for over 2 years. > ​I got NPF

AW: Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

>What does this exactly mean: "freemained frames"? Is it just a counter or do >they refer to specific frames, that are kept at hand in the address space for >faster assignment of new frame requests? > >I am not surprised that those frames, if they are "available" at all, are not >accessible

Re: IBMLINK SIS Failing? Spurious Error 500's

Keep reporting it, maybe they'll listen eventually. I had it so bad once I couldn't even supply feedback. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Larre Shiller Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:49 AM To:

Re: [External Sender] Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Another vote for NPF. I have the same exact situation as Dana. Works well. We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same devices. Not one issue for over 2 years. Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Here's another vote for IBM's NPF. It does indeed work, the only rough bits is the sort of un-intuitive way you set up printers and different types of output. Between the bare bones ISPF panels, a slightly altered NPF exit from CBT tape to support different forms and seperator pages, and a

Re: Strange application (or A.P.A) behaviour.

I'm not "into" the application enough. It seems they use FP for different calculations. To do "capital discounting", for instance, they use "**" operator and this is the most hungry cpu consumer. Maybe they prefer to work at the maximum precision rounding at the end. Sorry for being not so

Re: "make" question

On 2017-12-14 06:52, Steve Smith wrote: I use z/OS make! Out of lack of experience, I guess, but it seems to do its job OK. We ran into some issues when one developer was accidentally using gnu make. It produced a bunch of mysterious errors, and took us a while to figure out. So, makefiles

Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Gord Tomlin > Sent: 14 December, 2017 14:45 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply? > > On 2017-12-14 07:04, Peter Hunkeler wrote:

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

We successfully replaced VPS with NPF, which is included in CommServer. It's not quite as robust as VPS, but considering the price, it works beautifully. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.halp001/toc.htm -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

On 2017-12-14 07:04, Peter Hunkeler wrote: Running z/OS V2.2 on a z13. "D DIAG" shows FREEMAINEDFRAMES(YES) I'm not trying to solve any specific problem. I'm just curious. I'd like to see the behaviour in different situations when real storage (frames) has been kept as part of RSMs new

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Hi, Think this vendor has a product too - http://www.syzygyinc.com/SyzSPOOLz.htm – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Finnell Sent: 14 December 2017 12:21 To:

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Several years back John Anderson started an ISVCOSTS list to help explore these types of questions. It has transmogrified into a SHARE offering at www.share.org/isvcosts Unfortunately does not accept gmail, hotmail, ISP or Vendor subscriptions. Don't know which browsers it supports not Edge

RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

Running z/OS V2.2 on a z13. "D DIAG" shows FREEMAINEDFRAMES(YES) I'm not trying to solve any specific problem. I'm just curious. I'd like to see the behaviour in different situations when real storage (frames) has been kept as part of RSMs new "freemained frames" feature after the virtual

Re: DFSORT: RACFICE query - how to extract all commands containing some text value

Robert S. Hansel (RSH) wrote: >Kolusu, Careful, Sri will SORT you out... ;-D >I would not recommend the use of RACFRW. It was stabilized in 1992 and won't >report on the use of newer command operands such as NOEXPIRE. Bruce is better >off using ICETOOL. Or, better - lock up program RACFRW

Re: "make" question

I use z/OS make! Out of lack of experience, I guess, but it seems to do its job OK. We ran into some issues when one developer was accidentally using gnu make. It produced a bunch of mysterious errors, and took us a while to figure out. So, makefiles don't seem to be compatible between them

Re: DFSORT: RACFICE query - how to extract all commands containing some text value

Kolusu, I would not recommend the use of RACFRW. It was stabilized in 1992 and won't report on the use of newer command operands such as NOEXPIRE. Bruce is better off using ICETOOL. Bruce, Our presentation on DFSORT and ICETOOL and its use with RACF might be of help. You'll find it on our

Re: Back up of your largest DB

You don't always need to take a backup frequently: a backup plus logs can recover the DB. The less Imagecopies you take, the more logfiles you must process. The backup cycle then becomes a tradeoff. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IBMLINK SIS Failing? Spurious Error 500's

Yes, indeed... I am forced to use IE and like you, I have been suffering with this for quite a while, but it has gotten much worse this past week. In fact, at this point, it's almost unusable... almost every time I attempt to navigate around ServiceLink (usually starts with a "back" request),

Re: Back up of your largest DB

W dniu 2017-12-13 o 23:10, Edward Gould pisze: Hi all: This question I am posing caught me off guard and was wondering what the MF world does about Data Base backups. The largest DB I had e been exposed to was around 60 3350 volumes and that was 20+ years ago. The backup of the entire DB took

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

CA-Spool IBM Infoprint Server Macro4 Columbus Z -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of zos reader Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: LRS VPS Printer Replacment Hi, We are

LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Hi, We are planning to replace LRS VPS Printers to other Vendor product, I am not aware of other vendor products in Market. Can you all share your thoughts please. Thanks.. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access