Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 19:50:25 +, scott Ford wrote:
>
>I think its a good idea something like FLOWASM from Ed ...
>
I believe they have different purposes: John asked for a JCL diagrammer;
FLOWASM is a HLASM formatter.

I haven't seen the enthusiasm for an analogous FLOWJCL that I see for
FLOWASM, perhaps because:
o JCL lacks the lexical richness (complexity?) of HLASM.
o Programmers code fewer lines of JCL than of HLASM.

>On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:27 AM Edward Gould wrote:
>
>> > On Mar 29, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
>> >
>> > CA (Computer Associates) still sells JCLFLOW.
>> >
>>  Forget even mentioned it. I had no idea it was a CA product. I apologize
>> to the group.

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Re: SHARE tribute to Dr. John Ehrman

2018-03-31 Thread scott Ford
God I didnt know he had passed...He will be missed a brilliant man, I would
have loved to meet him.
Loved this Assembly for z/OS Servers ...

RIP John ...

>From a rookie compared to John

Scott

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 8:34 PM Clark Morris 
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> The following is a link to the SHARE tribute to John Ehrman
> https://www.share.org/blog/a-tribute-to-john-ehrman.
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Re: JCL "diagramming"?

2018-03-31 Thread scott Ford
John ,

I think its a good idea something like FLOWASM from Ed ...

Scott

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:27 AM Edward Gould 
wrote:

> > On Mar 29, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Mike Schwab 
> wrote:
> >
> > CA (Computer Associates) still sells JCLFLOW.
> >
>  Forget even mentioned it. I had no idea it was a CA product. I apologize
> to the group.
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> Ed
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Zconnect

2018-03-31 Thread scott Ford
All,

Does anyone have any information or can point me to using Zconnect and the 
Restapi ?
We are thinking about building a Restapi for provisioning ..

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Re: A, 470V/6, etc. (was Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued)

2018-03-31 Thread Steve Smith

Howdy, Dave!

The 470's arrival was slightly before my time (I worked there '77 & 
'78), so I didn't know (or remember) the actual story of how it got its 
proper coloring. Amdahls were supposedly red, but it was definitely 
enough of an orangish hue to cause offense :-).  The only burnt orange 
tolerated in College Station was the Thanksgiving Eve Bonfire.


I wonder if it's coincidence that tu (sorry, THE UoT) also got an 470.

Gig 'em Aggies!

sas '79


On 3/31/2018 11:29, Dave Jones wrote:

Howdy, Steve.

I, too, as a student at TAMU in the early to mid 70s and what I remember was 
that it was an Amdahl 470/V6 that was delivered to the DPC (Data Processing 
Center, we Aggies are very literal about a lot of things). The day it arrived 
and was set up in the machine room, replacing the old IBM S/360-65, the 
center's director was none too pleased about the burnt orange skin color. He 
had the Amdahl CEs take the covers off, and out to the parking lot, where they 
were repainted Maroon with spray cans of  Rust-Oleum from the local hardware 
store.

Gig 'em.
DJ '75

On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 09:26:29 -0400, Steve Smith  wrote:


Now I have to correct you there!  I was a student at A in the mid-70s,
and also worked as a student operator at the DPC .  I assure you A's
school colors are MAROON & white (burnt orange belongs to that silly little
school in Austin), and Amdahl did trim our new 470/V6 in MAROON.
Few people saw it though, as it was kept in a room by itself, kept at about
60 degrees.  The powers that be were paranoid about it overheating (Amdahls
were air-cooled, as long as they had power for the fans; otherwise they
melted).

sas

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 9:18 AM, John McKown 
wrote:


On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 5:37 AM, R.S. 
wrote:


W dniu 2018-03-29 o 22:57, Phil Smith pisze:


Not suggesting that. But if, say, EvilCorp said "We need tapes, damnit,
and will migrate our 58,000MSUs off of Z unless you continue them", POK
might blink. Or not.


This is subject of discussion like "I would buy ten z14's at full

capacity

, but I demand the chassis has to be yellow". Would IBM agree for yellow?
I bet yes, but we also know there won't be such demand. Only serious
companies do buy a lot of MIPS and their requirements are also serious.


​I remember back in the 1980s that Texas A University got some S/370 that
had "burnt orange" ​panels. That's the school color.





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Re: The evolution of IT infrastructure – from mainframe to server-less | ITProPortal

2018-03-31 Thread Knutson, Samuel
The world is far from serverless and the mainframe is the most efficient hyper 
converged system you can operate for transaction processing.
The article seems to lack a global perspective.  Linux, open source and cloud 
providers are powerful parts of the world wide computing infrastructure but the 
Fortune 1000 as well as nation states world wide and the worldwide GDP are 
driven by mainframes.

A more balanced perspective on the cloud is that it’s a good market to consume 
commodity services but you can't buy off the shelf replacements for custom 
applications with 10's if not 100's of thousands of many years of development.  
Those applications run on IBM Z because they are the digital DNA of successful 
enterprises.   A different perspective is that the world is evolving towards on 
premise mainframe and the cloud as the predominant platforms.   On premise 
commodity solutions and x86 may well be the endangered species.   The mainframe 
is the only platform CIO's surveyed indicated they believed were sure would 
still be in their data center 5 years from now.

View this for short three minute set of thoughts that expand on why Mainframe 
and Cloud get along just fine.

https://youtu.be/GMc29ckVRdA  Two-platform IT: Mainframe + Cloud = Digital 
Excellence


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Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

2018-03-31 Thread Dave Jones
Howdy, Steve.

I, too, as a student at TAMU in the early to mid 70s and what I remember was 
that it was an Amdahl 470/V6 that was delivered to the DPC (Data Processing 
Center, we Aggies are very literal about a lot of things). The day it arrived 
and was set up in the machine room, replacing the old IBM S/360-65, the 
center's director was none too pleased about the burnt orange skin color. He 
had the Amdahl CEs take the covers off, and out to the parking lot, where they 
were repainted Maroon with spray cans of  Rust-Oleum from the local hardware 
store. 

Gig 'em.
DJ '75

On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 09:26:29 -0400, Steve Smith  wrote:

>Now I have to correct you there!  I was a student at A in the mid-70s,
>and also worked as a student operator at the DPC .  I assure you A's
>school colors are MAROON & white (burnt orange belongs to that silly little
>school in Austin), and Amdahl did trim our new 470/V6 in MAROON.
>Few people saw it though, as it was kept in a room by itself, kept at about
>60 degrees.  The powers that be were paranoid about it overheating (Amdahls
>were air-cooled, as long as they had power for the fans; otherwise they
>melted).
>
>sas
>
>On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 9:18 AM, John McKown 
>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 5:37 AM, R.S. 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > W dniu 2018-03-29 o 22:57, Phil Smith pisze:
>> >
>> >> Not suggesting that. But if, say, EvilCorp said "We need tapes, damnit,
>> >> and will migrate our 58,000MSUs off of Z unless you continue them", POK
>> >> might blink. Or not.
>> >>
>> >
>> > This is subject of discussion like "I would buy ten z14's at full
>> capacity
>> > , but I demand the chassis has to be yellow". Would IBM agree for yellow?
>> > I bet yes, but we also know there won't be such demand. Only serious
>> > companies do buy a lot of MIPS and their requirements are also serious.
>> >
>>
>> ​I remember back in the 1980s that Texas A University got some S/370 that
>> had "burnt orange" ​panels. That's the school color.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Radoslaw Skorupka
>> > Lodz, Poland
>> >
>>
>> --
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>> it.
>>
>> Maranatha! <><
>> John McKown
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