Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: HLQ change of SMP/E files

2018-05-04 Thread CM Poncelet
Hi Simon,   No, aliasing would not help: the original SMP/E datasets could then be updated via their aliases.   I'm guessing that the CSI and its associated SMP/E datasets are for a production system. If the intention is only to read them, this can be done directly from the production CSI

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: HLQ change of SMP/E files

2018-05-04 Thread CM Poncelet
Hi Simon,   No, aliasing would not help: the original SMP/E datasets could then be updated via their aliases.   I'm guessing that the CSI and its associated SMP/E datasets are for a production system. If the intention is only to read them, this can be done directly from the production CSI SMP/E

Re: MF Application source control?

2018-05-04 Thread John McKown
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Jerry Callen wrote: > On Fri, 4 May 2018 13:00:55 +, Rob Scott > wrote: > > Dave > > As someone who is a complete dinosaur and used to source control > systems like SCLM, it took a bit of getting

Re: Interesting computer coding story [OT to mainframe -- it IS Friday]

2018-05-04 Thread Mike Schwab
On three specific days of year on a Wednesday or Saturday, so like once a year. On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 8:16 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: > Thanks, when I first heard about this I wondered why those machines don't > use some kind of truly random input, such as temperature

Re: Interesting computer coding story [OT to mainframe -- it IS Friday]

2018-05-04 Thread Tom Brennan
Thanks, when I first heard about this I wondered why those machines don't use some kind of truly random input, such as temperature or radio signal noise. So it turns out they do! But this guy just wrote code to bypass that input :) Charles Mills wrote: https://nyti.ms/2KvNzZf The Times

Interesting computer coding story [OT to mainframe -- it IS Friday]

2018-05-04 Thread Charles Mills
https://nyti.ms/2KvNzZf The Times has a partial paywall. I apologize if you are unable to read the story. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Tony Thigpen
I currently think it has to do with a combination of a faulty tape and a mis-configuration in the IODEF, and a testing environment. Normally, this CPU has no powered-up real tape drives, just a VTL. For some testing of new back-up procedures, they wanted me to use a real 3590 so as to not add

Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Steely.Mark
I usually use UNIT=AFF=SMFIN - Maybe you can try that instead. Not sure of the syntax but it always works for me. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 2:35 PM To:

Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am not sure if this was covered, But would the combination of VOL=REF=* and DISP=(,PASS) not work at keeping the tape up? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Tony Thigpen > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 1:32

Re: OA53355 - USERKEY COMMON MIGRATION SUPPORT

2018-05-04 Thread Edward Finnell
IIRC the ANAL30DD was a user contributed pgm. Without too much labor it was modified to produce several very handy reports. Seems like IBM would produce a SORT solution for reporting USER key usage. The SLIP on a z14 reduces it from boogity, boogity to boog, boog, boog-single step instruction

Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Gary Jacek
Is it possible there is some competing "service" that forces drive maintenance (head cleaning?) every xxx tape mounts? An RMM feature? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: May 4, 2018 12:35 PM To:

Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Tony Thigpen
No go. Unit=Aff is only applicable within the same job step. Tony Thigpen Chris Hoelscher wrote on 05/04/2018 04:05 PM: Unit=aff=step.ddname ??? Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services Humana Inc. 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY

Re: MF Application source control?

2018-05-04 Thread Jerry Callen
On Fri, 4 May 2018 13:00:55 +, Rob Scott wrote: Dave As someone who is a complete dinosaur and used to source control systems like SCLM, it took a bit of getting used to for me. I found that once I abandoned PDS datasets and used

Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Unit=aff=step.ddname ??? Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services Humana Inc. 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-04 Thread Tony Thigpen
I have a 50+ step backup job (using real 3590s) that has steps like: //STEP049 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //DASD DD DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HKYTD4 //BACKUP DD DSN=DR.T.DSS.HKYTD4.,DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE), // UNIT=3590,VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP048.BACKUP), //

Re: Rant

2018-05-04 Thread Carmen Vitullo
That sounds great Susan, and I have the KC server running on an LPAR here, (2.2) and using Softcopy Librarian V5 to load the contents, so where are all the 'other' books I'd like to load, DB2, MQ, IMS...to name a few? those KC books do not appear in any selection, .Boo or .PDF format for me to

Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-04 Thread Charles Mills
Done. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 5:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB) It appears that relatively

Re: WLM?

2018-05-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 4 May 2018 12:19:14 -0500, Horst Sinram wrote: >a daemon is a long running task, like an STC. I wondered about that, but noticed that the Infoprint manual suggests using what Anne had described. >A single period velocity goal is the preferred goal type for a daemon. It might make

Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-04 Thread Charles Mills
I shall do so. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 5:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB) It appears that

Re: AC(1)

2018-05-04 Thread John McKown
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Why? Wouldn't it be better to put facilities requiring assembler into > function packages so that other REXX scripts can use them? It's no rocket > science. > ​It's Friday. And I hit my head last night on a hard object

Re: Rant

2018-05-04 Thread Gibney, Dave
I guess I should mention that Bookmanager worked very well here. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Susan Shumway > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 10:14 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Rant > > You're hired,

Re: WLM?

2018-05-04 Thread Horst Sinram
Anne, a daemon is a long running task, like an STC. It makes very little sense to use multi period goals (with short durations) because it will eventually fall through to later periods. A single period velocity goal is the preferred goal type for a daemon. Only if the daemon would be at risk

Re: Rant

2018-05-04 Thread Susan Shumway
You're hired, Elardus! ;-) Vignesh (and everybody else), Elardus's recommendation to start at the z/OS Internet Library ( http://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosInternetLibrary ) is spot-on and what I tell people myself. From there, you can access all the different

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEFA107I when pointing to dataset alias

2018-05-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
An alias entry in a PDS directory doesn't point to the base name, it points to the actual member. And, yes, I know about load modules, but what the link editor/binder puts in the user halfwords doesn't count. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Rant

2018-05-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
In the last few years I've had better luck using wiki as a search engine than using google; even though google allegedly has syntax for restricting the search, it still gives lots of hits that don't match; a "smart" search of the "Do what I want in some alternate universe rather than what's in

Re: AC(1)

2018-05-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Why? Wouldn't it be better to put facilities requiring assembler into function packages so that other REXX scripts can use them? It's no rocket science. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: HLQ change of SMP/E files

2018-05-04 Thread Wheeler, Simon
Hi, Maybe it would be possible to rename the datasets as desired and create dataset aliases for the old names, so no SMP/E changes would be required? thanks, Simon   -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of CM Poncelet

Re: RFE for zfsadm man page enhancement

2018-05-04 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Done Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Lionel B. Dyck (TRA)" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 8:27:13 AM Subject: RFE for zfsadm man page enhancement Please vote for this RFE

RFE for zfsadm man page enhancement

2018-05-04 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Please vote for this RFE https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=119658 Description: The zfsadm man page is a good start but needs to be enhanced thus: 1. Enable 'man -k .' to find information within it 2. Expand to support the various zfsadm sub-commands (e.g.

Re: MF Application source control?

2018-05-04 Thread Rob Scott
Dave As someone who is a complete dinosaur and used to source control systems like SCLM, it took a bit of getting used to for me. I found that once I abandoned PDS datasets and used z/OS unix file systems on z/OS to store the source I was working on, all things began to fall into place. For

Re: MF Application source control?

2018-05-04 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On May 4, 2018, at 7:01 AM, Rob Scott wrote: > > Rocket Software offer an open source GIT port for z/OS - see > http://www.rocketsoftware.com/zos-open-source/tools. > > I use it and I like it. > Me too. I develop on both z/OS and Unix and my workflow is very

Re: MF Application source control?

2018-05-04 Thread Jousma, David
Thanks Rob. Already have it downloaded and installed. :) It's the knitting all the pieces together and making it work that scares me. Then there is the "training" of all of our "legacy programmers". _ Dave Jousma Manager

Re: Dynamic LNKLST SET limitations?

2018-05-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 3 May 2018 14:11:11 -0500, Steve Horein wrote: >Yes, I used the set name "LNKLSTxx" arbitrarily for demonstration purposes. >The current PROGxx defines several sets, with the final set activated at >IPL time having a name similar to > >What I am trying to avoid, in addition to

Re: MF Application source control?

2018-05-04 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Dave, I have working on this very topic for the past year or two. I have giving presentations to IBM zCouncil and there was a presentation on the last SHARE conference in Sacramento. And I will be giving a SHARE Live! Presentation in St. Louis in August. Here are the tools that I have been

Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-04 Thread Peter Relson
It appears that relatively few exits document their TCB vs SRB requirements. They should. While I wouldn't bet that it would get done quickly, a RCF asking for that documentation for every exit in the installations exits book seems like a good first step. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology

Re: MF Application source control?

2018-05-04 Thread Rob Scott
Dave, Rocket Software offer an open source GIT port for z/OS - see http://www.rocketsoftware.com/zos-open-source/tools. I use it and I like it. Rob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Friday, May 4,

MF Application source control?

2018-05-04 Thread Jousma, David
All, I've seen occasional comments here regarding z/OS GIT, DEVOPS, etc.Just wondering if anyone has taken the plunge for mainframe source code management that is similar to open systems? I'm talking about using iDZ as the IDE, GIT, GIThub, Jenkins, Urban Code Deploy, etc? Our open

Re: Dynamic LNKLST SET limitations?

2018-05-04 Thread Peter Relson
As with anything that has storage requirements, there is a limit. That limit might be enforced or might be "until you run out of the necessary storage". LNKLST sets are no different. There is no enforcement. The storage in this case is ECSA. Terminology correction: There is a *current* LNKLST

Re: AC(1)

2018-05-04 Thread John McKown
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 6:33 AM, Peter Relson wrote: > ...the logic above is done on _every_ OPEN for _every_ DD > name. Or is it only if the OPEN is for a DCB which is BPAM (i.e. the DD > concatenation is for libraries)? > > > I'm not sure, but since APF authorization applies

AC(1)

2018-05-04 Thread Peter Relson
...the logic above is done on _every_ OPEN for _every_ DD name. Or is it only if the OPEN is for a DCB which is BPAM (i.e. the DD concatenation is for libraries)? I'm not sure, but since APF authorization applies only to load libraries, I'd imagine that the OPEN processing is done only for

Re: AC(1)

2018-05-04 Thread Rob Scott
I believe that the "IPLINFO" rexx exec pre-dates the dynamic APF implementation and used to show the APF table using the rexx inbuilt storage function by traversing the static APF control blocks (I cannot remember if these fields were GUPI or not). When dynamic APF was introduced, someone