Re: [SPAM] Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-01 Thread Costin Enache
Having explored the topic in the past, I believe you need to talk to IBM. The platform and code for the HMC and SE systems is under tight control and nobody but IBM can provide you with access to the thing. IBM customers are not allowed to do that. And event if/when you get the thing, it will

Re: [SPAM] Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-01 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 09:29, R.S. wrote: > > IMHO the topic is HMC for zPDT. Unfortunately zPDT does not have HMC in > any form, real or emulated. > It's not mainframe, it's only emulation. No, zPDT *is* a mainframe. It implements a permitted subset of the architecture documented in the

Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-02-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I hate to be defending some anonymous old fogey, but his message is intended to endorse regular and rigorous maintenance, not to criticize it. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132

Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-02-01 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2019-02-01 o 19:50, Tom Conley pisze: On 2/1/2019 12:22 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: I'd like to explore this teaser post. I was (I think also) dubious about the original comment in that it seems to disparage--or at least discourage--mass service like RSU, which I view as a major advance

Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-02-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
At first I thought maybe the referent was me. Wise? Debatable. Older? Remotely possible. But I searched my closet in vain for a 'denim newsie'. I guess that could signify my road apple hat. Anyway those who've heard me say 'always broke' know that I mean nothing derogatory. Quite the

Re: SYSAFF and SCHENV

2019-02-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
As I mentioned previously, we devised a set of JES2 exit routines that process JECL cards (/*SCHENV ...) to create the required 16 byte SCHENV card. The user can code that directly if desired; otherwise we build it from JECL. The only value we insert directly on the user's behalf is 'TAPE'. 20

Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-02-01 Thread Tom Conley
On 2/1/2019 12:22 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: I'd like to explore this teaser post. I was (I think also) dubious about the original comment in that it seems to disparage--or at least discourage--mass service like RSU, which I view as a major advance in software maintenance. Is there really

Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-02-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I'd like to explore this teaser post. I was (I think also) dubious about the original comment in that it seems to disparage--or at least discourage--mass service like RSU, which I view as a major advance in software maintenance. Is there really wide-spread distrust of an "unavoidable 'push'"?

Re: Cause of CsvdylpaRsnBadVersion?

2019-02-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I confess that my advice was based on (geologically) ancient experience. I don't remember what macro I was using, but I truly hit the problem I alluded to. Illustrates the down-side of 'experience'. The longer you've done something, the less likely you are to haul out the manual (physically or

searching for CP-67/CMS and TSS/360 software distribution tapes

2019-02-01 Thread Mark Waterbury
Hello, IBM mainframers! I am currently working with some folks who are building a new IBM System/360 simulator using SIMH for historical software preservation purposes.  The plan includes supporting the unique features of the model 67. We are looking for machine readable copies of IBM's

Re: [SPAM] Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-01 Thread ITschak Mugzach
No. The ussue ia clearly HMC. I just explained why we do not have one (zPDT) and why we need one (develpment of automatic STIG assussment of HMC). I don't need my own one. It can be other people hmc (and no need to be connected to a real mainframe. Autonatic Assessment of mainframes we already

Re: [SPAM] Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-01 Thread R.S.
IMHO the topic is HMC for zPDT. Unfortunately zPDT does not have HMC in any form, real or emulated. It's not mainframe, it's only emulation. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2019-02-01 o 13:10, ITschak Mugzach pisze: But you need an HMC to connect to... Ir install an agent. Bcpii

Re: Cause of CsvdylpaRsnBadVersion?

2019-02-01 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks all. > Charles fell > into the subtle case that specifying PLISTVER=MAX in effect is saying "I > am using new function". I plead guilty. I fell into the trap of reading > If you can tolerate the size change, IBM recommends that you always > specify PLISTVER=MAX on the list form of the

Re: ICKDSF QUESTION

2019-02-01 Thread Joe Monk
The Syntax for ICKDSF is: FLASHCPY WITHDRAW UNIT(CCUU) TARGETVOL(LSS,CCA,CCUU) Example: FLASHCPY WITHDRAW UNIT(5C06) - TARGETVOL(X'01', X'07',5C87) Joe On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 8:26 AM esmie moo < 012780d99c7b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I noticed that the jcl was

Re: How can I get reports in the Output Queue in SDSF to print

2019-02-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
How do you want to do that? 1) Is the SYSOUT still on the JES2 Spool? 2) Has the SYSOUT been purged from the JES2 Spool? 3) Do you need an automated process? 4) Do you need a manual process? 5) What level of z/OS are you running? You can 1) Purchase a sysout management product -

Re: ISPCFIGU not being used.

2019-02-01 Thread Tom Conley
On 1/31/2019 6:51 PM, Shaffer, Terri wrote: I have to say, I've never seen this before so. BROWSE ,ISPCFIGU:18772000:0F98 ,Line,0132,Col,001 080 Command ===>,,Scroll ===>,CSR -10 (18771FF0) *

Re: Cause of CsvdylpaRsnBadVersion?

2019-02-01 Thread Peter Relson
As a general rule for LIST/EXECUTE form macros, avoid coding anything else on the execute call except for E. The reason is that the LIST call determines what data needs to be included in the generated code Not for macros written in the base control program (and elsewhere) in the past 30

Re: Cause of CsvdylpaRsnBadVersion?

2019-02-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Disagree. Obviously place as much as possible in the LIST form, but if it is not repeated that much you can use COMPLETE without worries. Using PLISTVER=MAX on the MF=E declares that the running system is at least the level of the system that compiled. Never a good idea for a vendor. Use the

Re: ICKDSF QUESTION

2019-02-01 Thread esmie moo
I noticed that the jcl was misaligned.  I don't know why. I will try to fix the problem. /*                                         //STEP1    EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=4M       //SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*                   //SYSIN    DD *                             FLASHCPY WITHDRAW SDEVN(816B)

Re: ICKDSF QUESTION

2019-02-01 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]
I thought it uses TGTVOL and SRCVOL, not SEDVN/TDEVN, but I could be wrong. ;-D an -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 7:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ICKDSF QUESTION Gentle Readers, I am trying to

ICKDSF QUESTION

2019-02-01 Thread esmie moo
Gentle Readers, I am trying to terminate the relationship between the source and target adress of FLASHCOPY which was initiated by FDRFLASH. I am encountering the following error"ICKDSF - MVS/ESA    DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES                                                                        

Re: [SPAM] Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-01 Thread ITschak Mugzach
But you need an HMC to connect to... Ir install an agent. Bcpii is limited, rest api is poßible, but still need an hmc בתאריך יום ו׳, 1 בפבר׳ 2019, 13:09, מאת Mike Schwab : > I think they do a remote control of the HMC from another PC. > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 4:11 AM ITschak Mugzach wrote: >

Re: [SPAM] Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-01 Thread Mike Schwab
I think they do a remote control of the HMC from another PC. On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 4:11 AM ITschak Mugzach wrote: > > I know, but there is a virtual appliance for rs6000. I need a hmc to > develop an agent for our stig compliance automation product IronSphere, but > zpdt (our mainframe) doean't

Re: Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-01 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2019-02-01 o 10:27, ITschak Mugzach pisze: Thimoty, I need the hmc itself, not the interface / web app. What do you need? Do you have mainframe without HMC? AFAIK it is possible only when mainframe bought from second hand, because IBM always deliver HMC. However in that case you can

Re: [SPAM] Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-01 Thread ITschak Mugzach
I know, but there is a virtual appliance for rs6000. I need a hmc to develop an agent for our stig compliance automation product IronSphere, but zpdt (our mainframe) doean't have or support this facility. ITschak בתאריך יום ו׳, 1 בפבר׳ 2019, 12:01, מאת R.S. : > W dniu 2019-01-31 o 17:02,

Re: [SPAM] Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-01 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2019-01-31 o 17:02, ITschak Mugzach pisze: I know power systems has one. Dies system z has such product? No. Both HMC and SE are physical machines. PC vel x64. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś

Re: How can I get reports in the Output Queue in SDSF to print

2019-02-01 Thread Vince Getgood
Ron, If they are in the output queue, then they probably haven't been printed. Do you want to keep a copy on the output queue? If not, just change the class and destination to one that a printer processes. If you want the output copy left, you could do something like XDC it to a flat file,

Re: Tape Mount Management

2019-02-01 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
I like tape too, especially since we introduced a VTS its connections were initially 'faster' than disk, which could only catch up with new disk systems. After the tape-to-disk migrations of decades ago, I started disk-to-tape migrations again to gain disk space. Sadly there were not many

Re: Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-01 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Thimoty, I need the hmc itself, not the interface / web app. ITschak בתאריך יום ו׳, 1 בפבר׳ 2019, 8:01, מאת Timothy Sipples : > >I know power systems has one. Dies system z has such product? > > The Hardware Management Console is available in traditional desktop and 1U > rack mounted form

Re: Tape Mount Management

2019-02-01 Thread Brian Fraser
I still like tape. No B37 abends. No waiting for recalls from HSM and reduces the need for HSM recycling. As long as only 1 open is required at a time and no one needs to browse/edit the dataset, I don't see any reason to store large sequential datasets on DASD. CA-1 reporting and ISPF panels