Re: IBM SSI Function Codes 16 and 17

2019-10-04 Thread Greg Price

On 2019-10-05 5:24 AM, Lionel B Dyck wrote:

SMF will give the close time but I've found nothing that will give me the open 
time.


Well, SMF14OPE tells you something...

Cheers,
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Re: IBM SSI Function Codes 16 and 17

2019-10-04 Thread Charles Mills
SSI will not do it.

SMF 14/15 is indeed CLOSE time only.

SMF 62 will give you the OPEN for a VSAM dataset.

SMF 92/10 will give you the OPEN for a UNIX file.

You could consider RACF auditing and SMF 80 (230 for ACF2).

(All of the "SMF" answers assume the use IEFU8x exits.)

Charles


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Thank you but subsystem datasets are not what I was looking for - my goal is to 
capture the date/time a data set is opened and the date/time a data set is 
closed. SMF will give the close time but I've found nothing that will give me 
the open time.

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Re: Phoenix Software International Announces IBM(R) JES3 Licensing Agreement

2019-10-04 Thread Phil Smith III
David Jousma wrote:

>Does every JES3 shop that wants to remain have to re-buy (I'm guessing yes)?  

>Otherwise how's the money going to be made?

 

Presumably they'll be charging for maintenance and support.


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Re: IBM SSI Function Codes 16 and 17

2019-10-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Have you looked at, e.g., IFG0EX0B ?


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Thank you but subsystem datasets are not what I was looking for - my goal is to 
capture the date/time a data set is opened and the date/time a data set is 
closed. SMF will give the close time but I've found nothing that will give me 
the open time.


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Subject: Re: IBM SSI Function Codes 16 and 17

On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 07:55, Jerry Callen  wrote:
>
> See: 
> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1hxYhdTyUJ2n0lYJEpJ86Ahv-WL2HxROPInP2mMHw_y81ItV8Rb0rPEOZZJc64pPcXUlHsudWcozIP4Ree3yx2aj-lnDdLmdOYoE6SaIdEemu4fhhNrL-Yx1lqopCVRjZ4GzIEgcarJcEJDCrHq1am_qepDcbEi4lMKGhT_8BgpDytIIReDtgF0NKbktSqdjlKZB1zh4FprwUNwCkysjljsX_KnF2JRBpM91dHlFs-_w-SFzjmN7Lrrp34G4IhIKIo5outUASrIwFKI_39yQ6wTBQzA1H3rSPt14Dzax6BpxPcggFDXzSynZ6xElqUoG78hAGcUvpIQydN5k4yLa5ni4_OeF_6OSW_7T5V4RpjFauc68nZJYQE3Yx1ZCjpcErK6wCmrwjx11ni01tjs5YGapS4g-u2z9APYM33CRH9p520F2kPcZS9lp0JvRV4dH_/https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FCBTTape%2F290
> It contains an implementation of subsystem datasets.

As does CBT 364.

The two of them (290 has very useful doc) along with the current JES2 source 
will give you enough information to write your own simple subsystem that 
supports dataset functions, I believe.

> The documentation you WANT is the Washington Systems Center Technical 
> Bulletin GG66-3131-00, which,  unfortunately, seems to have become Pure 
> Unobtainium.

A good many other GG books  that were only ever shipped on paper have also 
disappeared. Not particularly from IBM trying to suppress them as much as 
simply nobody with a paper copy has digitized it and made it available to 
bitsavers or the like.

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Re: Phoenix Software International Announces IBM(R) JES3 Licensing Agreement

2019-10-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 17:31:06 +, Jousma, David wrote:

>Does every JES3 shop that wants to remain have to re-buy (I'm guessing yes)?  
>Otherwise how's the money going to be made?

Buy? Is a one-time charge an option these days? 

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Re: IBM SSI Function Codes 16 and 17

2019-10-04 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Thank you but subsystem datasets are not what I was looking for - my goal is to 
capture the date/time a data set is opened and the date/time a data set is 
closed. SMF will give the close time but I've found nothing that will give me 
the open time.


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On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 07:55, Jerry Callen  wrote:
>
> See: https://github.com/CBTTape/290
> It contains an implementation of subsystem datasets.

As does CBT 364.

The two of them (290 has very useful doc) along with the current JES2 source 
will give you enough information to write your own simple subsystem that 
supports dataset functions, I believe.

> The documentation you WANT is the Washington Systems Center Technical 
> Bulletin GG66-3131-00, which,  unfortunately, seems to have become Pure 
> Unobtainium.

A good many other GG books  that were only ever shipped on paper have also 
disappeared. Not particularly from IBM trying to suppress them as much as 
simply nobody with a paper copy has digitized it and made it available to 
bitsavers or the like.

Tony H.

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Re: APAR OA58438 (was Re: Planned ESQA change and HealthCheck)

2019-10-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 07:11:21 +, Martin Packer  
wrote:

>
>Interesting. And no I didn’t know about it. Question: At what stage does
>the ESQA into ECSA check wave a red (or orange) flag?
>
>Cheers, Martin

From monitors it depends I guess.  But the OS does it right away via 
IRA103I   SQA/ESQA HAS EXPANDED INTO CSA/ECSA BY x PAGES

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieam900/m013171.htm

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Re: IBM SSI Function Codes 16 and 17

2019-10-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 07:55, Jerry Callen  wrote:
>
> See: https://github.com/CBTTape/290
> It contains an implementation of subsystem datasets.

As does CBT 364.

The two of them (290 has very useful doc) along with the current JES2
source will give you enough information to write your own simple
subsystem that supports dataset functions, I believe.

> The documentation you WANT is the Washington Systems Center Technical 
> Bulletin GG66-3131-00, which,  unfortunately, seems to have become Pure 
> Unobtainium.

A good many other GG books  that were only ever shipped on paper have
also disappeared. Not particularly from IBM trying to suppress them as
much as simply nobody with a paper copy has digitized it and made it
available to bitsavers or the like.

Tony H.

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Re: Phoenix Software International Announces IBM® JES3 Licensing Agreement

2019-10-04 Thread Ed Jaffe

Didn't mean to create confusion with the below statement.

I should have said, "We will begin to functionally enhance OUR OFFERING 
starting with the 2nd release..." to distinguish it from IBM JES3.


I'm just so used to saying "JES3," muscle memory got the better of me... LOL

On 10/3/2019 10:24 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:

We will begin to functionally enhance JES3 starting with the 2nd release





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Re: Phoenix Software International Announces IBM(R) JES3 Licensing Agreement

2019-10-04 Thread Jousma, David
I was thinking along the lines of licensing.   Does every JES3 shop that wants 
to remain have to re-buy (I'm guessing yes)?  Otherwise how's the money going 
to be made?

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> Thanks to everyone for all the support. As many of you know, we have 
> been working with JES3 for decades, so it's a perfect fit for us.

Wow!

I'm not a JES3 guy, but the two obvious questions that come to mind are:

Is JESXCF used by JES3, and if so, did you license its source too?

Are parts of JES3 written in PL/X, and if so did you get the compiler?
(And IBM - if they got it, can I have one too?)

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Re: Phoenix Software International Announces IBM(R) JES3 Licensing Agreement

2019-10-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 01:24, Ed Jaffe  wrote:

> Thanks to everyone for all the support. As many of you know, we have
> been working with JES3 for decades, so it's a perfect fit for us.

Wow!

I'm not a JES3 guy, but the two obvious questions that come to mind are:

Is JESXCF used by JES3, and if so, did you license its source too?

Are parts of JES3 written in PL/X, and if so did you get the compiler?
(And IBM - if they got it, can I have one too?)

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Re: sftp config file

2019-10-04 Thread Joel M Ivey
In this case the private key is in RACF, but thank you.

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SMF Record Signing Validation Problems

2019-10-04 Thread Mark Jacobs
What's the magic spell(s) to get SMF Signature Validation to work? I've been 
trying for a couple of days and it's failed every time. Latest failure is this;

IFA741I UNABLE TO PERFORM SMF SIGNATURE VALIDATION
IFA742I SMF SIGNATURE VALIDATION FAILED DUE TO
INCONSISTENT RECORDS - FIRST FLAG DOES NOT MATCH

The previous days SMF data is archived using these parameters;

LSNAME(IFASMF.DEVL52.DEFAULT,OPTIONS(ARCHIVE))
OUTDD(OUTDD1,TYPE(0:255))
  RELATIVEDATE (BYDAY,1,1)
  NOSIGSTRIP

And my validation job reads in that archived data using these parameters

INDD (IN,OPTIONS(DUMP))
OUTDD(DUMPOUT,TYPE(0:255))
NOSIGSTRIP
SID(PROD)
SIGVALIDATE(HASH(SHA512),
TOKENNAME(SMF#SIGNING#TAMPER#RESISTANT#TOK))

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Re: Phoenix Software International Announces IBM® JES3 Licensing Agreement

2019-10-04 Thread John Abell
Good luck Ed.  I am sure that there are a lot of JES3 people pleased with this.

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Thanks to everyone for all the support. As many of you know, we have been 
working with JES3 for decades, so it's a perfect fit for us.

As a customer focused company, we really listen to what our customers tell us. 
They asked for this, so we stepped up the plate.

We licensed JES3 from IBM for the purpose of extending its life indefinitely. 
Our initial product release (planned for GA March 2020) will be functionally 
equivalent to z/OS 2.4 JES3, but unlike IBM we intend to support back-level 
BCPs (probably z/OS 2.2 and higher since
JES3 has not been enhanced by IBM one iota since that time). So we will be 
looking for early support customers as soon as we have something packaged, 
tested, and ready to ship -- perhaps January...

We will begin to functionally enhance JES3 starting with the 2nd release and, 
unlike IBM, we plan annual releases just like the rest of our products. We'll 
probably re-sync on a September release schedule in 2020 or 2021 to ensure 
we're positioned to offer Day #1 support of new z/OS releases as they are 
released.

It's not every day someone acquires a core z/OS component from IBM (has that 
EVER happened?) so you can be sure we will treat it with the respect it 
deserves.

But, more than anything else, we're gonna have fun!


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TLMS QUESTION - SCRATCH A TAPE

2019-10-04 Thread John Dawes
G'Day,
I want to scratch a tape which has a retention period of 1095 days.  This is 
what it looks when I query the tape: 
RTN-SCHED(1)  BY RMF 5DC1095

I saw this example in the TLMS doc.  Would it scratch the tape?

/*                         //TLMSINQR EXEC CATINQR    //CAIIPT DD *             
 //UPV T59631,SCRATCH=YES   /*                         //                       
  

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Re: IBM SSI Function Codes 16 and 17

2019-10-04 Thread Jerry Callen
See: https://github.com/CBTTape/290

It contains an implementation of subsystem datasets.

The documentation you WANT is the Washington Systems Center Technical Bulletin 
GG66-3131-00, which,  unfortunately, seems to have become Pure Unobtainium.

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Re: APAR OA58438 (was Re: Planned ESQA change and HealthCheck)

2019-10-04 Thread Jousma, David
Thanks Mark for the heads up.  We've not seen the behavior noted in this APAR, 
although I am tracking it now for closure.   In my case, got lazy over the 
years and hadn’t been paying attention to CSA/ECSA SQA/ESQA allocation and 
utilization that has crept up.   ESQA has been hovering around 80-85% on my 
heavily used lpars.   We've had one production system spill from ESQA to ECSA 
since our last IPL in early May.   Since we've got our fall IPL's coming up, 
I'm adjusting it to get it back into a more comfortable range.

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If you are running z/OS 2.3 and increasing ESQA because of expansion into ECSA 
messages or sudden unexplained growth, check out APAR OA58438.

We had 3 system crashes after migrations to z/OS 2.3 in 2019 and one close call 
after ECSA got to 99% when ESQA expanded into it (only a vendor monitor crashed 
in that case after a failed ECSA getmain).  Stand alone dumps didn't find the 
root cause other than we new it was RPB pool growth related to SVC dumps from 
CICS.  In one case a single SVC dump caused an 80M ESQA spike within one or two 
seconds crashed a system when it spilled into ECSA and also filled up ECSA 
(typically at about 70% use, but "stable").  

We worked with IBM all summer on this.  We had different SLIPs and GTF traces 
put in place, but with the traces going the problem never happen. But SVC dump 
processing
did take over the CPU with the trace + GTF active!   :-)  

Meanwhile, we increased ESQA on 30 LPARs via normal IPLs over the summer by 
about
80M and ECSA a bit as a "work around".   Settings that haven't been touched in 
god knows
how long (certainly not since 64-bit usage has increased and HVCOMMON).   So we 
had
to loose about 100M of high private to do this.  We also increased real storage 
on a couple of LPARs that really didn't warrant it (based on zero or close to 
zero demand paging during normal operations), but we knew real storage was also 
involved in the problem (no flash memory for SVC dumps on my client's 
mainframes).  

The entire time IBM has said we are the only ones reporting the problem, but 
since we had the problem in big sysplexes, small sysplexes, big LPARs, small 
LPARs, I know that we can't be the only ones.  I think other shops are ignoring 
the ESQA expansion into ECSA (since that in itself doesn't hurt) and / or they 
have more "white space".  The RPB control blocks are freed after about 10 
minutes, so anyone looking at their current ESQA (and ECSA) usage wouldn't 
notice the spikes or would just say 'oh well,
looks good now".   

Anyway,  IBM was getting close to figuring this out not too long ago and 
partially re-created the problem in the lab some weeks ago and just got back to 
us today 
with the root cause and the APAR that was opened.   It is related to being real
storage constrained at the time of the SVC dumps (I think all of the crashes 
were during CICS startup time in the wee morning hours).  

I really wanted to post something about this earlier but didn't since IBM said 
they had no other reported problems,  So if you have seen this problem since 
migrating to z/OS 2.3, now you know you aren't the only ones.

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Re: APAR OA58438 (was Re: Planned ESQA change and HealthCheck)

2019-10-04 Thread Martin Packer

Interesting. And no I didn’t know about it. Question: At what stage does
the ESQA into ECSA check wave a red (or orange) flag?

Cheers, Martin

Sent from my iPad

> On 3 Oct 2019, at 22:34, Mark Zelden  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 16:18:32 -0500, Mark Zelden  wrote:
>
>> If you are running z/OS 2.3 and increasing ESQA because of expansion
into ECSA messages
>> or sudden unexplained growth, check out APAR OA58438.
>>
>> We had 3 system crashes after migrations to z/OS 2.3 in 2019 and one
close call after
>> ECSA got to 99% when ESQA expanded into it (only a vendor monitor
crashed in that
>> case after a failed ECSA getmain).  Stand alone dumps didn't find the
root cause
>> other than we new it was RPB pool growth related to SVC dumps from CICS.
In one
>> case a single SVC dump caused an 80M ESQA spike within one or two
seconds crashed
>> a system when it spilled into ECSA and also filled up ECSA (typically at
about
>> 70% use, but "stable").
>>
>> We worked with IBM all summer on this.  We had different SLIPs and GTF
traces put in
>> place, but with the traces going the problem never happen. But SVC dump
processing
>> did take over the CPU with the trace + GTF active!   :-)
>>
>> Meanwhile, we increased ESQA on 30 LPARs via normal IPLs over the summer
by about
>> 80M and ECSA a bit as a "work around".   Settings that haven't been
touched in god knows
>> how long (certainly not since 64-bit usage has increased and HVCOMMON).
So we had
>> to loose about 100M of high private to do this.  We also increased real
storage on a
>> couple of LPARs that really didn't warrant it (based on zero or close to
zero demand
>> paging during normal operations), but we knew real storage was also
involved in
>> the problem (no flash memory for SVC dumps on my client's mainframes).
>>
>> The entire time IBM has said we are the only ones reporting the problem,
but since we
>> had the problem in big sysplexes, small sysplexes, big LPARs, small
LPARs, I know that
>> we can't be the only ones.  I think other shops are ignoring the ESQA
expansion into
>> ECSA (since that in itself doesn't hurt) and / or they have more "white
space".  The
>> RPB control blocks are freed after about 10 minutes, so anyone looking
at their
>> current ESQA (and ECSA) usage wouldn't notice the spikes or would just
say 'oh well,
>> looks good now".
>>
>> Anyway,  IBM was getting close to figuring this out not too long ago and
partially
>> re-created the problem in the lab some weeks ago and just got back to us
today
>> with the root cause and the APAR that was opened.   It is related to
being real
>> storage constrained at the time of the SVC dumps (I think all of the
crashes were
>> during CICS startup time in the wee morning hours).
>>
>> I really wanted to post something about this earlier but didn't since
IBM said
>> they had no other reported problems,  So if you have seen this problem
since
>> migrating to z/OS 2.3, now you know you aren't the only ones.
>>
>
>
> One thing I didn’t mention in the post (well, I did the first time I
started to compose it,
> but accidentally closed the window) is that one may not even notice the
problem because
> the RPB pools are releases after some period of time (10-15 minutes?).
So if one looked
> at any given point in time ESQA usage would be “normal”.  The only clue
would be Health
> Checker messages if Health Checker was running or some other monitor
tripping
> an ESQA threshold hit or expansion into ECSA.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
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Re: ZEKE - ZENA

2019-10-04 Thread johnnydeep san
ZEKE /ZENA is ASG product's ...check in
https://www.asg.com/en/Contact-Us.aspx

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:14 PM Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM <
kees.verno...@klm.com> wrote:

> Since you mention z/OS in your question, this is a correct place. This a
> generous forum of technical people, eager to dive into almost any technical
> problem.
> However, I can't help you further.
>
> Kees.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of Nai, Dean
> > Sent: 23 September, 2019 20:36
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: ZEKE - ZENA
> >
> > Not sure if this is just for IBM related products but I'll ask the
> > question anyway. We are converting over 2000 jobs from ZEKE on Z/OS to
> > ZENA on a ZLINUX box. Anyone go through this process and if so any tips
> or
> > scripts to accomplish this that they know of? Thanks in advance for your
> > thoughts:)
> >
> >
> > Dean Nai
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
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