Re: Best way for a task to give up the CPU and let other tasks run?

2019-10-21 Thread David Crayford
On 2019-10-22 12:09 PM, Mike Hochee wrote: Define application program? COBOL batch or CICS transaction program? Most legacy applications on z/OS don't implement concurrency. Agreed, they don't implement concurrency, however they are often very heavily reliant upon on it, as it is built into

Re: Best way for a task to give up the CPU and let other tasks run?

2019-10-21 Thread Mike Hochee
> Define application program? COBOL batch or CICS transaction program? > Most legacy applications on z/OS don't implement concurrency. Agreed, they don't implement concurrency, however they are often very heavily reliant upon on it, as it is built into the database management and message

Re: Best way for a task to give up the CPU and let other tasks run?

2019-10-21 Thread David Crayford
On 2019-10-22 1:55 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 02:32, David Crayford wrote: The only code I've seen that implements yield are synchronization routines. Consider a spin-lock which is spinning on a CS instruction. Why would any application program on z/OS implement and use a

Re: Best way for a task to give up the CPU and let other tasks run?

2019-10-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:01:15 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >(Now with some actual content.) The standard justification for spin loop is >that the area of code in question is executed *very* frequently and is *very* >short. > I'd say, rather, the typical *wait* is *very* short. >... In other

Re: Best way for a task to give up the CPU and let other tasks run?

2019-10-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
(Now with some actual content.) The standard justification for spin loop is that the area of code in question is executed *very* frequently and is *very* short. In other words, not worth the overhead of an actual WAIT nor the delay in having to get redispatched afterwards. Spin loop is not an

Re: Best way for a task to give up the CPU and let other tasks run?

2019-10-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
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Re: CA Spool Security Setup

2019-10-21 Thread Jeffrey Holst
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Re: Best way for a task to give up the CPU and let other tasks run?

2019-10-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 02:32, David Crayford wrote: > The only code I've seen that implements yield are synchronization > routines. Consider a spin-lock which is spinning on a CS instruction. Why would any application program on z/OS implement and use a spin lock? Why do the authors of such

Re: Resource Link Down?

2019-10-21 Thread Allan Staller
Responding to my own post. It's back up now -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 12:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Resource Link Down?

Resource Link Down?

2019-10-21 Thread Allan Staller
https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosInternetLibrary https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosInternetLibrary?OpenDocument Or, even more important, IS resourcelink down? https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc03100.nsf?OpenDatabase

Re: Standalone DFDSS

2019-10-21 Thread Donald J
The Visara is a CCA-3074. 3074 is FICON point-to-point connected. Visara terminals are connected by TCPIP through a switch on a private network, and defined as "hot" consoles. I don't think the SSL option was used since it is a simple private network. The HMC 3270 option was attempted and also

Re: Standalone DFDSS

2019-10-21 Thread Mazer Ken G
Don, Is your Visara connected via OSA-ICC? Does the console in question receive the OSA-ICC three line display? You didn't indicate the reason for running Standalone DFDSS, did you get a new processor or are you setting up a new DR environment. The reason I ask these questions is that we just

Re: Best way for a task to give up the CPU and let other tasks run?

2019-10-21 Thread Sean Gleann
Back in the days of IPS/ICS dispatching control, wasn't there something that was referred to as the 'wheeler-dealer mechanism' & does it still exist in some form in the WLM code? >From memory: 1. New task gets created and is assigned a time-slice of 1msec, at a priority of 32 (out of 64 - i.e

Re: [EXT] Re: zOS 2.4 migration guide

2019-10-21 Thread Sean Gleann
@Kurt - thank you for the qualification - "...but z/OS software will continue to be serviced using PTFs and therefore using SMP/E". I hadn't read or heard that until now. Its good to hear that that is the case. Sean On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 00:49, Mark Zelden wrote: > z/OSMF can create an