Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
Gil, I can't tell whether you're suggesting more things that CLIST can do that REXX cannot, or things that REXX can do even though I said it cannot. a) I don't know what CHAROUT is, but it sounds like the same issue as WRITENR. Or are you saying it's some sort of REXX function that can

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
I said "useful" tricks, knowing that CLIST has its own list of specialty items. Maybe "important" would have been a better word; it's what I was thinking. It isn't hard to get REXX to complain if certain arguments aren't provided; I usually do it like this: acid='' arg args; do while

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
I'd be interested in hearing a quick review, Steve, once you've tried it out and have an opinion. I don't know how serious I am about it, but it sounds convenient. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* That sort of wit which employs itself insolently in criticizing and

Re: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Do you mean that VPN clients for mainframe are rare? Tony Thigpen wrote: >I would not even think about a VPN client for the mainframe. Too late, Tony. :-) The base z/OS operating system includes IPSec IKEv2 support. Details are available here (z/OS 2.4 link, subject to

Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 16:20:41 -0500, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >Haven't looked into pipes in omvs (unix) but that is an interesting idea. > You'll find a collection of utilities quite different from what you're used to. It's tediious but possible to use omvs pipes to connect Classic OS utilities. No

Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Haven't looked into pipes in omvs (unix) but that is an interesting idea. thx Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original

Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread scott Ford
Can’t you also use Unix Pipes? Just a thought Lionel On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 1:52 PM Lionel B Dyck wrote: > Martin - thank you > > > Lionel B. Dyck < > Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com > > "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what > you are, reputation merely

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread scott Ford
Shmuel, I have used them remotely connected to the Net then into a Linux box. I had pretty good luck. The only issue I bumped into was were power outages , hard to recover from with a KVM. Scott On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 1:56 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > I've seen lots of hangs associated with

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
> As far as I know there are only two useful tricks CLIST can perform that REXX > can't. Well, maybe three: > 1) WRITENR. Not in the TSO environment, but IBM provides the ANSI REXX stream I/O functions in the Unix environment. > 2) Interacting with subsystems. That's a biggie, and

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 14:27:53 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >As far as I know there are only two useful tricks CLIST can perform that REXX >can't. Well, maybe three: > >1) WRITENR. So when I really need it, I use an external REXX exec named SAYNR >that does the same thing - by calling a CLIST that

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
Yes...although on the mainframe this issue isn't quite as critical as it can be on other platforms. There was a time when I considered including in all my REXXes a parm that could be evaluated like this: arg args; do while args<>''; parse var args arg args; select when arg='DBG' then

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread David Spiegel
How about the ability to force the caller to supply a specific number of arguments? On 2020-03-22 14:27, Bob Bridges wrote: As far as I know there are only two useful tricks CLIST can perform that REXX can't. Well, maybe three: 1) WRITENR. So when I really need it, I use an external REXX

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
As far as I know there are only two useful tricks CLIST can perform that REXX can't. Well, maybe three: 1) WRITENR. So when I really need it, I use an external REXX exec named SAYNR that does the same thing - by calling a CLIST that does a WRITENR. Works like a champ, but I wouldn't want to

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
I've seen lots of hangs associated with KVM switches. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020

Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Martin - thank you Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
There was a time when I had three laptops (two of them issued by clients), and space was getting tight. I thought then about buying one of those switches, Peter. A "KVM" switch, is that what it's called (keyboard, video, mouse)? I don't remember for sure. The situation improved before I got

Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Martin Packer
You're best of searching with the string "batchpipeworks" as that's what it was called when SmartBatch was created. I believe the term survived into BatchPipes/MVS V2. Not all CMS Pipelines functions are supported. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
I'm with David on this one. A few days ago someone in this conversation said he wouldn't use a personal cell phone for company business, and I didn't say anything about it at the time. But I put my phone on an unlimited plan years ago, and never since thought twice about using it for business

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
YES!! I love laptops for travel, and therefore use them at home too; but I always carry around a real keyboard and trackball to plug into the laptop so I can type at normal speed without having to find numeric keys, arrows etc. (Just recently I had one of my sons build me a tower, with a bigger

Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck
That telecourse looks outstanding - thank you Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread Steve Beaver
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Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Dave Jones
You might find this of some use, Lionel : CMS Pipelines Telecourse (an HTML selfstudy course) V1.3 https://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2 DJ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Mainframers Working From Home By Trevor Eddolls

2020-03-22 Thread Mark Regan
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Re: BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 08:20:36 -0500, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >I have access to a system where BP is installed and discovered that TSO >Pipes works - to a limited degree. CALLPIPE and ADDPIPE are missing even >though both are clearly documented in the reference manual. Does anyone have >any pointers

BatchPipes and TSO Pipes

2020-03-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck
I have access to a system where BP is installed and discovered that TSO Pipes works - to a limited degree. CALLPIPE and ADDPIPE are missing even though both are clearly documented in the reference manual. Does anyone have any pointers to any doc that would document what parts of Pipes are missing