Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Seymour J Metz 
You still need a surge protector for communication infrastructure; telephone 
line if you have a fax modem, cable, FIOS or whatever. When will the world go 
fiber?


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Subject: Re: Mesh Router

Not back then, many years ago zapped my cable modem and HDMI ports on TV.
Just installed a whole house surge protector as have Mitsubishi mini split
AC which are rife with electronics plus protects all the other devices.
Looking forward to a big surge!

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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Ken Smith 
Not back then, many years ago zapped my cable modem and HDMI ports on TV.
Just installed a whole house surge protector as have Mitsubishi mini split
AC which are rife with electronics plus protects all the other devices.
Looking forward to a big surge!

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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Steve Beaver 
And battery backup - got that covered

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Sutge protector?


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The New York Times-owned Wirecutter reviews are pretty good including those
on networking. Ditto (GENER!) Consumer Reports if you have a subscription.

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rking%2F
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/wireless-routers.htm

Splitters are cheap and easy if you run out of physical ports.
A disadvantage to your own cable modem is surges or lightning. They'll
replace their device but not yours.

Ken
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:21 AM scott Ford  wrote:

> Hey Lionel,
>
> I have Verizon FIOS can I tie the mesh network you mentioned into it ...?
> We have a crazy device house, a lot of WiFi..
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:33 AM Lionel B Dyck  wrote:
>
> > I have the Linksys Velop and it works great:
> > https://www.linksys.com/us/velop/
> >
> >
> > Lionel B. Dyck <
> > Website:
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> >
> > "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is
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> > -Original Message-
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> > Of Steve Beaver
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> > Subject: Mesh Router
> >
> > Does anyone have an opinion on which of the various mesh router
extenders
> > to purchase?
> >
> > TIA
> > Steve
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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Seymour J Metz 
Sutge protector?


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Subject: Re: Mesh Router

The New York Times-owned Wirecutter reviews are pretty good including those
on networking. Ditto (GENER!) Consumer Reports if you have a subscription.

https://secure-web.cisco.com/1N98IePCuG1tgIy0wKnZnZ606b8x3AdN8jVKMvfn2Ek_8Z2tXpuSnwE3N92bAbOfx0RXUZgIbitDEn6y5VSLimGbuT0-fL0tanTwStX1OtsEJ9MGEj0m_yDWykRaniEz6IEcLgw4WmXAx3w9z6XlJQLpxkZbqmP8v5HbeIPdLi6Ftu4VnbD__F3M_aZIfn3iNjjiOpkoRqSfyVSLqVQ7fO2Hspujyzrp8hhcXqLCb0-I95k5DHACCa63fZT2lC5_spvvTDL4t62eod2RVrV7gUeX-MJSaliWjcgLoAL5MuaUZhIKGj8BJxp-sWMmiVX1iztj0qzMRbBlIygveIGJFBzVaYrx9OJNxDiip8_rx7E90rVXtL0HTnds9jZWESXFtflyNlB0HMvOmoGDSCHiT8eArV_5ZCvu58IZBfkN8vJQcj3YGYpjShUAEJXXd-Brd/https%3A%2F%2Fthewirecutter.com%2Felectronics%2Fnetworking%2F
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/wireless-routers.htm

Splitters are cheap and easy if you run out of physical ports.
A disadvantage to your own cable modem is surges or lightning. They’ll
replace their device but not yours.

Ken
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:21 AM scott Ford  wrote:

> Hey Lionel,
>
> I have Verizon FIOS can I tie the mesh network you mentioned into it ...?
> We have a crazy device house, a lot of WiFi..
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:33 AM Lionel B Dyck  wrote:
>
> > I have the Linksys Velop and it works great:
> > https://www.linksys.com/us/velop/
> >
> >
> > Lionel B. Dyck <
> > Website: 
> > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1MQsLuQfLTyJSLbZMM65PxiVYMMnVYpGGE3k2-rmSJm0lstq6Yju6DCaN1k4Rzh6skvzhflvsmfOiBDeVNCvflMTL0Jt0Oh7rHbuuO0MFW5GKiAb5TK63aV-0yrgdIiKYAeqMcExeEMwcNcI3DLyQfVMtTSb8yvVvXmHbnVvfabyZf_l-FjSln7SnEPgy7islnL9Zmg-ZKHJTysWdJ5dKkrMF6ccDlN0HpYV3-FOVOYmgSdQztVYmfF-KblRURJEx9fPhDRKiu93Z0-wqebErL9nPqobOcSEuZ30TQRi4etwnhhgCR4esD3gwGx3yNj_EGVWkIzaHB5xNnBoG3ZjxSRJFW5SDLERwzDbxXiTqC744370G9EXvWzdGsmI4f-VerdsIjGL-3sLWqkNO8_NKeOduLfZL4hbOweWG6U7wHsiMxJgHzYD48lDgJRG1r8IG/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lbdsoftware.com
> >
> > "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what
> > you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Of Steve Beaver
> > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:23 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Mesh Router
> >
> > Does anyone have an opinion on which of the various mesh router extenders
> > to purchase?
> >
> > TIA
> > Steve
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Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-03 Thread Chris Hoelscher 
Watch out - ARR has been ... pirated ...

Thank You,
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 ARR, ESTAE, and ESTAEX are all RTM2, so recovering from an event and retrying 
are pretty much the same processing.
 
 Establishing and deleting an ARR  is considerably faster than establishing and 
deleting an ESTAE or ESTAEX. 

Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test  IBM Corp. 
Poughkeepsie NY

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> These are my results from a benchmark I did 4 years ago:
> Testcases which loop  recovering/retrying from an operation exception.
> Using default system trace size - 1MB per CPU,  with
> 20 CPUs, so 20MB of data to snap)
> z13 machine
> RecoveryIterations  CPU seconds  Ratio
> --  ---  -
> ESPIE   x'20'  3.531.0
> FRR x'20' 45.66   12.9
> ESTAEX (no SNAPTRC) x' 2' 98.95   28.0
> ESTAEX (SNAPTRC)x'  1000'102.83   14,914.7
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> > From: "Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw" 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date: 04/02/2020 08:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks) 
> > Sent by: "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" 
> >
> > I think the reason that handling interrupts in ESPIE is faster than 
> > ESTAE is simply that ESPIE sets an exit to the FLIH, whereas ESTAE 
> > sets an exit to the SLIH.
> >
> > Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw | Security Lead | RSM Partners Ltd
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> > Behalf Of Charles Mills
> > Sent: 02 April 2020 20:59
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd
> sub-tasks)
> >
> > As Peter seems to imply, ESPIE interrupts are apparently noticeably 
> > lower overhead than ESTAE interrupts. If data or addressing 
> > exceptions were expected I definitely *would* use ESPIE. I would 
> > save ESTAE for unexpected (well, expected unexpected) conditions. My
> > opinion: no benchmarks, no source code.
> >
> > Charles
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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Ken Smith 
The New York Times-owned Wirecutter reviews are pretty good including those
on networking. Ditto (GENER!) Consumer Reports if you have a subscription.

https://thewirecutter.com/electronics/networking/
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/wireless-routers.htm

Splitters are cheap and easy if you run out of physical ports.
A disadvantage to your own cable modem is surges or lightning. They’ll
replace their device but not yours.

Ken
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:21 AM scott Ford  wrote:

> Hey Lionel,
>
> I have Verizon FIOS can I tie the mesh network you mentioned into it ...?
> We have a crazy device house, a lot of WiFi..
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:33 AM Lionel B Dyck  wrote:
>
> > I have the Linksys Velop and it works great:
> > https://www.linksys.com/us/velop/
> >
> >
> > Lionel B. Dyck <
> > Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com
> >
> > "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what
> > you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> > Of Steve Beaver
> > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:23 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Mesh Router
> >
> > Does anyone have an opinion on which of the various mesh router extenders
> > to purchase?
> >
> > TIA
> > Steve
> >
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Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-03 Thread Charles Mills 
Hmmm. I hear you. (But the number of iterations is actually only 1/16, right? 
X'2' is 1/16 of X'20', right?)

Here is the data extrapolated out to a constant number of iterations. (The 
ratio for ESTAEX no SNAPTRC appears to be wrong in Jim's numbers.)

RecoveryIterations  CPU seconds  Ratio
--  ---  -
ESPIE   x'20'  3.531.0
FRR x'20' 45.66   12.9
ESTAEX (no SNAPTRC) x'20'   1583.20  448.5 (28.0 is apparently wrong)
ESTAEX (SNAPTRC)x'20'  52648.96   14,914.7

Charles


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Of Tom Marchant
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 9:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

I saw the Ratio column. comparing lines 2 and 3 of the chart, the ratio doesn't 
make sense if the number of iterations for ESTAEX is only 1/10 of the number 
for FRR, yet it took over twice as long. Perhaps Jim will clarify.

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 09:12:56 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:

>Look at the Ratio column for "normalized" numbers.
>
>ESPIE beats everything. That's the point. If (a.) all you need to trap is 
>program checks; and (b.) you expect a bunch of them -- use ESPIE.
>
>Charles
>
>
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>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
>Behalf Of Tom Marchant
>Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:10 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)
>
>The data presented shows that FRR is a lot better than ESTAE(X).
>Perhaps you overlooked the number of iterations.
>
>-- 
>Tom Marchant
>
>On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 10:23:33 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>
>>Interesting numbers.
>>
>>But I looked at the current doc and it still appears to be problem state only.
>>
>>Also, do you numbers include setup or just program check handling? I figured
>>FRRs would be a lot better than ESTAE(X).
>>
>>On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:28:13 -0500 Jim Mulder  wrote:
>>
>>:> These are my results from a benchmark I did 4 years ago:
>>:>
>>:>Testcases which loop  recovering/retrying from an
>>:>operation exception.
>>:>Using default system trace size - 1MB per CPU,  with
>>:>20 CPUs, so 20MB of data to snap)
>>:>z13 machine
>>:>
>>:>RecoveryIterations  CPU seconds  Ratio
>>:>--  ---  -
>>:>ESPIE   x'20'  3.531.0
>>:>FRR x'20' 45.66   12.9
>>:>ESTAEX (no SNAPTRC) x' 2' 98.95   28.0
>>:>ESTAEX (SNAPTRC)x'  1000'102.83   14,914.7

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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Seymour J Metz 
I don't know about ATT pricing, but with verizon FIOS it's a lot less expensive 
to buy your own router. If you get digital voice, be sure to tell the installer 
that you have more than one telephone.


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Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 11:33 AM
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Subject: Re: Mesh Router

The first question you need to answer for yourself is do you need a router, or 
will the ISP supplied router work for what you want to do.

There have been a few other suggestions for a set up that includes a router.

I have ATT, and use their modem/router/phone/AP device. I just turn off the 
wireless.

One port on the ATT router gets connected to a Ubiquiti Networks Networks UniFi 
Switch 8-Port 150 Watts (about $200)
The other ports on the POE switch then get connected to Ubiquiti Networks Unifi 
802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) (about $140)

You can get as many APs as you need, I have a wide single story ranch style 
home and have probably overdone the install using 3 of the APs on the main 
floor. I have a couple older APs, one is in an open unfinished basement, and I 
may put one in the garage just to be sure my Rachio sprinkler controller and 
WeMo light switches and plugs in the far corner have a bit better signal. Yes, 
definitely over kill. But no dead spots anywhere.

Tom Chicklon

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TIA
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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Cieri, Anthony 

Hi Scott,

This device does NOT have any signal filtering capabilities. There are 
newer models, but I have not investigated them.

In my particular situation, running cables was NOT an option so I could 
not use an extender.  This booster has an LED display on the front of the 
device. After you configure it, you can plug it into different outlets to 
determine the best location. If the LED goes red, then the wifi signal is too 
weak and you will have to relocate the device closer to your wireless router.

So far, it is working fine.



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Hey Tony,

What signal interference ? Does the AC1750 filter signal interference ?

Scott

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:32 PM Cieri, Anthony < 
02d7f4ec1fff-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

>
> There are lots of potential solutions.
> If your smart TV has an Ethernet port and you have an easy way 
> to run some Ethernet cables, that would provide a better (and probably
> cheaper) solution.
>
> If not, there are Wifi signal boosters that can be purchased 
> at more modest prices.
>
> I literally installed a TP-Link (AC1750) Wifi range extender 
> last week to address a very similar situation. With everyone 
> working/schooling from home, the first floor was getting crowded (best 
> Wifi signals). The TP-link device plugs into a wall outlet. I chose 
> the first outlet on the seconds floor (half way between the dead-zone 
> and the router). This device boost the wifi signal so my daughter can 
> zoom classes ( or stream moves) on her laptop from her bedroom. It 
> also improved the wireless signal on my smart TV on the second floor.
>
> Hth
> Tony
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 12:06 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mesh Router
>
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>
>
> All this is getting confusing - I have Linksys WRT AC3200 Dual-Band 
> WiFi 5 Router
>
> The problem is its does not have enough power to reach my smart TV 
> downstairs and I do have port space On my Linksys Router to attach the 
> signal booster as the transmitter (base).  All I want is the base and 
> a receiver Downstairs.
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Chicklon, Thomas
> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 10:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mesh Router
>
> The first question you need to answer for yourself is do you need a 
> router, or will the ISP supplied router work for what you want to do.
>
> There have been a few other suggestions for a set up that includes a 
> router.
>
> I have ATT, and use their modem/router/phone/AP device. I just turn 
> off the wireless.
>
> One port on the ATT router gets connected to a Ubiquiti Networks 
> Networks UniFi Switch 8-Port 150 Watts (about $200) The other ports on 
> the POE switch then get connected to Ubiquiti Networks Unifi 802.11ac 
> Dual-Radio PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) (about $140)
>
> You can get as many APs as you need, I have a wide single story ranch 
> style home and have probably overdone the install using 3 of the APs 
> on the main floor. I have a couple older APs, one is in an open 
> unfinished basement, and I may put one in the garage just to be sure 
> my Rachio sprinkler controller and WeMo light switches and plugs in 
> the far corner have a bit better signal. Yes, definitely over kill. 
> But no dead spots anywhere.
>
> Tom Chicklon
>
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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread scott Ford 
Hey Tony,

What signal interference ? Does the AC1750 filter signal interference ?

Scott

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:32 PM Cieri, Anthony <
02d7f4ec1fff-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

>
> There are lots of potential solutions.
> If your smart TV has an Ethernet port and you have an easy way to
> run some Ethernet cables, that would provide a better (and probably
> cheaper) solution.
>
> If not, there are Wifi signal boosters that can be purchased at
> more modest prices.
>
> I literally installed a TP-Link (AC1750) Wifi range extender last
> week to address a very similar situation. With everyone working/schooling
> from home, the first floor was getting crowded (best Wifi signals). The
> TP-link device plugs into a wall outlet. I chose the first outlet on the
> seconds floor (half way between the dead-zone and the router). This device
> boost the wifi signal so my daughter can zoom classes ( or stream moves) on
> her laptop from her bedroom. It also improved the wireless signal on my
> smart TV on the second floor.
>
> Hth
> Tony
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Steve Beaver
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 12:06 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mesh Router
>
> [[ SEI WARNING *** This email was sent from an external source. Do not
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>
>
> All this is getting confusing - I have Linksys WRT AC3200 Dual-Band WiFi 5
> Router
>
> The problem is its does not have enough power to reach my smart TV
> downstairs and I do have port space On my Linksys Router to attach the
> signal booster as the transmitter (base).  All I want is the base and a
> receiver Downstairs.
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Chicklon, Thomas
> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 10:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mesh Router
>
> The first question you need to answer for yourself is do you need a
> router, or will the ISP supplied router work for what you want to do.
>
> There have been a few other suggestions for a set up that includes a
> router.
>
> I have ATT, and use their modem/router/phone/AP device. I just turn off
> the wireless.
>
> One port on the ATT router gets connected to a Ubiquiti Networks Networks
> UniFi Switch 8-Port 150 Watts (about $200) The other ports on the POE
> switch then get connected to Ubiquiti Networks Unifi 802.11ac Dual-Radio
> PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) (about $140)
>
> You can get as many APs as you need, I have a wide single story ranch
> style home and have probably overdone the install using 3 of the APs on the
> main floor. I have a couple older APs, one is in an open unfinished
> basement, and I may put one in the garage just to be sure my Rachio
> sprinkler controller and WeMo light switches and plugs in the far corner
> have a bit better signal. Yes, definitely over kill. But no dead spots
> anywhere.
>
> Tom Chicklon
>
> -Original Message-
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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Don Poitras 
You should look into dropping the "phone" part. Save a monthly charge and 
convert to Google
Voice. Buy an OBi200 for $50 to drive your POTS phones. If you want to keep 
your land-line
phone number, there's a little dance you have to do, but you can transfer it to 
Google
Voice and until Google starts charging, it's just a one-time $20 fee.

In article 

 you wrote:
> The first question you need to answer for yourself is do you need a router, 
> or will the ISP supplied router work for what you want to do.

> There have been a few other suggestions for a set up that includes a router.

> I have ATT, and use their modem/router/phone/AP device. I just turn off the 
> wireless.

> One port on the ATT router gets connected to a Ubiquiti Networks Networks 
> UniFi Switch 8-Port 150 Watts (about $200)
> The other ports on the POE switch then get connected to Ubiquiti Networks 
> Unifi 802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) (about $140)

> You can get as many APs as you need, I have a wide single story ranch style 
> home and have probably overdone the install using 3 of the APs on the main 
> floor. I have a couple older APs, one is in an open unfinished basement, and 
> I may put one in the garage just to be sure my Rachio sprinkler controller 
> and WeMo light switches and plugs in the far corner have a bit better signal. 
> Yes, definitely over kill. But no dead spots anywhere.

> Tom Chicklon

> -Original Message-
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> Steve Beaver
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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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> TIA
> Steve 

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Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-03 Thread Tom Marchant 
I saw the Ratio column. comparing lines 2 and 3 of the chart, the ratio doesn't 
make sense if the number of iterations for ESTAEX is only 1/10 of the number 
for FRR, yet it took over twice as long. Perhaps Jim will clarify.

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 09:12:56 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:

>Look at the Ratio column for "normalized" numbers.
>
>ESPIE beats everything. That's the point. If (a.) all you need to trap is 
>program checks; and (b.) you expect a bunch of them -- use ESPIE.
>
>Charles
>
>
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>
>The data presented shows that FRR is a lot better than ESTAE(X).
>Perhaps you overlooked the number of iterations.
>
>-- 
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>
>On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 10:23:33 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>
>>Interesting numbers.
>>
>>But I looked at the current doc and it still appears to be problem state only.
>>
>>Also, do you numbers include setup or just program check handling? I figured
>>FRRs would be a lot better than ESTAE(X).
>>
>>On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:28:13 -0500 Jim Mulder  wrote:
>>
>>:> These are my results from a benchmark I did 4 years ago:
>>:>
>>:>Testcases which loop  recovering/retrying from an
>>:>operation exception.
>>:>Using default system trace size - 1MB per CPU,  with
>>:>20 CPUs, so 20MB of data to snap)
>>:>z13 machine
>>:>
>>:>RecoveryIterations  CPU seconds  Ratio
>>:>--  ---  -
>>:>ESPIE   x'20'  3.531.0
>>:>FRR x'20' 45.66   12.9
>>:>ESTAEX (no SNAPTRC) x' 2' 98.95   28.0
>>:>ESTAEX (SNAPTRC)x'  1000'102.83   14,914.7

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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Cieri, Anthony 

There are lots of potential solutions.
If your smart TV has an Ethernet port and you have an easy way to run 
some Ethernet cables, that would provide a better (and probably cheaper) 
solution.

If not, there are Wifi signal boosters that can be purchased at more 
modest prices.

I literally installed a TP-Link (AC1750) Wifi range extender last week 
to address a very similar situation. With everyone working/schooling from home, 
the first floor was getting crowded (best Wifi signals). The TP-link device 
plugs into a wall outlet. I chose the first outlet on the seconds floor (half 
way between the dead-zone and the router). This device boost the wifi signal so 
my daughter can zoom classes ( or stream moves) on her laptop from her bedroom. 
It also improved the wireless signal on my smart TV on the second floor.

Hth
Tony


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All this is getting confusing - I have Linksys WRT AC3200 Dual-Band WiFi 5 
Router

The problem is its does not have enough power to reach my smart TV downstairs 
and I do have port space On my Linksys Router to attach the signal booster as 
the transmitter (base).  All I want is the base and a receiver Downstairs.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Chicklon, Thomas
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 10:34 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mesh Router

The first question you need to answer for yourself is do you need a router, or 
will the ISP supplied router work for what you want to do.

There have been a few other suggestions for a set up that includes a router.

I have ATT, and use their modem/router/phone/AP device. I just turn off the 
wireless.

One port on the ATT router gets connected to a Ubiquiti Networks Networks UniFi 
Switch 8-Port 150 Watts (about $200) The other ports on the POE switch then get 
connected to Ubiquiti Networks Unifi 802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO Access Point 
(UAP-AC-PRO-US) (about $140)

You can get as many APs as you need, I have a wide single story ranch style 
home and have probably overdone the install using 3 of the APs on the main 
floor. I have a couple older APs, one is in an open unfinished basement, and I 
may put one in the garage just to be sure my Rachio sprinkler controller and 
WeMo light switches and plugs in the far corner have a bit better signal. Yes, 
definitely over kill. But no dead spots anywhere.

Tom Chicklon

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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread scott Ford 
Steve,

IMHO signal booster may be ok, maybe not the mesh network mentioned I feel
is
better. I would opt for the one that has a less chance of interference by
other routers or devices nearby.

Scott

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:06 PM Steve Beaver  wrote:

> All this is getting confusing - I have Linksys WRT AC3200 Dual-Band WiFi 5
> Router
>
> The problem is its does not have enough power to reach my smart TV
> downstairs and I do have port space
> On my Linksys Router to attach the signal booster as the transmitter
> (base).  All I want is the base and a receiver
> Downstairs.
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Chicklon, Thomas
> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 10:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mesh Router
>
> The first question you need to answer for yourself is do you need a
> router, or will the ISP supplied router work for what you want to do.
>
> There have been a few other suggestions for a set up that includes a
> router.
>
> I have ATT, and use their modem/router/phone/AP device. I just turn off
> the wireless.
>
> One port on the ATT router gets connected to a Ubiquiti Networks Networks
> UniFi Switch 8-Port 150 Watts (about $200)
> The other ports on the POE switch then get connected to Ubiquiti Networks
> Unifi 802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) (about $140)
>
> You can get as many APs as you need, I have a wide single story ranch
> style home and have probably overdone the install using 3 of the APs on the
> main floor. I have a couple older APs, one is in an open unfinished
> basement, and I may put one in the garage just to be sure my Rachio
> sprinkler controller and WeMo light switches and plugs in the far corner
> have a bit better signal. Yes, definitely over kill. But no dead spots
> anywhere.
>
> Tom Chicklon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
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Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-03 Thread Charles Mills 
Look at the Ratio column for "normalized" numbers.

ESPIE beats everything. That's the point. If (a.) all you need to trap is 
program checks; and (b.) you expect a bunch of them -- use ESPIE.

Charles


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Of Tom Marchant
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:10 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

The data presented shows that FRR is a lot better than ESTAE(X).
Perhaps you overlooked the number of iterations.

-- 
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On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 10:23:33 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:

>Interesting numbers.
>
>But I looked at the current doc and it still appears to be problem state only.
>
>Also, do you numbers include setup or just program check handling? I figured
>FRRs would be a lot better than ESTAE(X).
>
>On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:28:13 -0500 Jim Mulder  wrote:
>
>:> These are my results from a benchmark I did 4 years ago:
>:>
>:>Testcases which loop  recovering/retrying from an
>:>operation exception.
>:>Using default system trace size - 1MB per CPU,  with
>:>20 CPUs, so 20MB of data to snap)
>:>z13 machine
>:>
>:>RecoveryIterations  CPU seconds  Ratio
>:>--  ---  -
>:>ESPIE   x'20'  3.531.0
>:>FRR x'20' 45.66   12.9
>:>ESTAEX (no SNAPTRC) x' 2' 98.95   28.0
>:>ESTAEX (SNAPTRC)x'  1000'102.83   14,914.7

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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Steve Beaver 
All this is getting confusing - I have Linksys WRT AC3200 Dual-Band WiFi 5 
Router

The problem is its does not have enough power to reach my smart TV downstairs 
and I do have port space
On my Linksys Router to attach the signal booster as the transmitter (base).  
All I want is the base and a receiver
Downstairs.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Chicklon, Thomas
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 10:34 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mesh Router

The first question you need to answer for yourself is do you need a router, or 
will the ISP supplied router work for what you want to do.

There have been a few other suggestions for a set up that includes a router.

I have ATT, and use their modem/router/phone/AP device. I just turn off the 
wireless.

One port on the ATT router gets connected to a Ubiquiti Networks Networks UniFi 
Switch 8-Port 150 Watts (about $200)
The other ports on the POE switch then get connected to Ubiquiti Networks Unifi 
802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) (about $140)

You can get as many APs as you need, I have a wide single story ranch style 
home and have probably overdone the install using 3 of the APs on the main 
floor. I have a couple older APs, one is in an open unfinished basement, and I 
may put one in the garage just to be sure my Rachio sprinkler controller and 
WeMo light switches and plugs in the far corner have a bit better signal. Yes, 
definitely over kill. But no dead spots anywhere.

Tom Chicklon

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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread scott Ford 
Wow guys, that’s great, we have kids and grandkids like most folks with a
ton of devices, so mesh is a great idea, thx all your all great !

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:34 AM Chicklon, Thomas <
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> The first question you need to answer for yourself is do you need a
> router, or will the ISP supplied router work for what you want to do.
>
> There have been a few other suggestions for a set up that includes a
> router.
>
> I have ATT, and use their modem/router/phone/AP device. I just turn off
> the wireless.
>
> One port on the ATT router gets connected to a Ubiquiti Networks Networks
> UniFi Switch 8-Port 150 Watts (about $200)
> The other ports on the POE switch then get connected to Ubiquiti Networks
> Unifi 802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) (about $140)
>
> You can get as many APs as you need, I have a wide single story ranch
> style home and have probably overdone the install using 3 of the APs on the
> main floor. I have a couple older APs, one is in an open unfinished
> basement, and I may put one in the garage just to be sure my Rachio
> sprinkler controller and WeMo light switches and plugs in the far corner
> have a bit better signal. Yes, definitely over kill. But no dead spots
> anywhere.
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> Tom Chicklon
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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Chicklon, Thomas 
The first question you need to answer for yourself is do you need a router, or 
will the ISP supplied router work for what you want to do.

There have been a few other suggestions for a set up that includes a router.

I have ATT, and use their modem/router/phone/AP device. I just turn off the 
wireless.

One port on the ATT router gets connected to a Ubiquiti Networks Networks UniFi 
Switch 8-Port 150 Watts (about $200)
The other ports on the POE switch then get connected to Ubiquiti Networks Unifi 
802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) (about $140)

You can get as many APs as you need, I have a wide single story ranch style 
home and have probably overdone the install using 3 of the APs on the main 
floor. I have a couple older APs, one is in an open unfinished basement, and I 
may put one in the garage just to be sure my Rachio sprinkler controller and 
WeMo light switches and plugs in the far corner have a bit better signal. Yes, 
definitely over kill. But no dead spots anywhere.

Tom Chicklon

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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Lionel B Dyck 
Just turn off WiFi on your ISP router, plug the mesh into a wired connection to 
it, and use the mesh for your wifi - works like a charm.


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Hey Lionel,

I have Verizon FIOS can I tie the mesh network you mentioned into it ...?
We have a crazy device house, a lot of WiFi..

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:33 AM Lionel B Dyck  wrote:

> I have the Linksys Velop and it works great:
> https://www.linksys.com/us/velop/
>
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> Wooden
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> extenders to purchase?
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Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-03 Thread Tom Marchant 
The data presented shows that FRR is a lot better than ESTAE(X).
Perhaps you overlooked the number of iterations.

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On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 10:23:33 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:

>Interesting numbers.
>
>But I looked at the current doc and it still appears to be problem state only.
>
>Also, do you numbers include setup or just program check handling? I figured
>FRRs would be a lot better than ESTAE(X).
>
>On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:28:13 -0500 Jim Mulder  wrote:
>
>:> These are my results from a benchmark I did 4 years ago:
>:>
>:>Testcases which loop  recovering/retrying from an
>:>operation exception.
>:>Using default system trace size - 1MB per CPU,  with
>:>20 CPUs, so 20MB of data to snap)
>:>z13 machine
>:>
>:>RecoveryIterations  CPU seconds  Ratio
>:>--  ---  -
>:>ESPIE   x'20'  3.531.0
>:>FRR x'20' 45.66   12.9
>:>ESTAEX (no SNAPTRC) x' 2' 98.95   28.0
>:>ESTAEX (SNAPTRC)x'  1000'102.83   14,914.7
>:>
>:>
>:>Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test  IBM Corp.
>:>Poughkeepsie NY
>:>(845) 435-4741
>:>D10JHM1@PLPSC  (MVS)   JMULDER@S390VM  (VM)
>:>
>:>> From: "Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw" 
>:>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>:>> Date: 04/02/2020 08:13 PM
>:>> Subject: Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)
>:>> Sent by: "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" 
>:>>
>:>> I think the reason that handling interrupts in ESPIE is faster than
>:>> ESTAE is simply that ESPIE sets an exit to the FLIH, whereas ESTAE
>:>> sets an exit to the SLIH.
>:>>
>:>> Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw | Security Lead | RSM Partners Ltd
>:>> Web:  www.rsmpartners.com
>:>> �Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.�
>:>>
>:>> -Original Message-
>:>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
>:>> Behalf Of Charles Mills
>:>> Sent: 02 April 2020 20:59
>:>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>:>> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd
>:>sub-tasks)
>:>>
>:>> As Peter seems to imply, ESPIE interrupts are apparently noticeably
>:>> lower overhead than ESTAE interrupts. If data or addressing
>:>> exceptions were expected I definitely *would* use ESPIE. I would
>:>> save ESTAE for unexpected (well, expected unexpected) conditions. My
>:>> opinion: no benchmarks, no source code.
>:>>
>:>> Charles
>:>
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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Mark Jacobs 
I'm also have a FIOS router and are using the Netgear ORBI. I turned the wifi 
off on the FIOS router and the ORBI provides WIFI in access point mode. Works 
fine.

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> Hey Lionel,
>
> I have Verizon FIOS can I tie the mesh network you mentioned into it ...?
> We have a crazy device house, a lot of WiFi..
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:33 AM Lionel B Dyck lbd...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I have the Linksys Velop and it works great:
> > https://www.linksys.com/us/velop/
> > Lionel B. Dyck <
> > Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com
> > "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what
> > you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf
> > Of Steve Beaver
> > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:23 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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> > to purchase?
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> > Steve
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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Jousma, David 
I have the EERO mesh wifi with 3 pucks.  Bought it before it was an Amazon 
owned company.   WiFi works very well, just don’t like the big-brother 
requirements.   It used to be my router as well, now relegated to Bridge mode.  
I purchased a Ubiquiti 12 port EdgeRouter to handle 
routing/firewall/dhcp/blacklisting, etc.   VERY happy with that decision.

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Re: Sometime

2020-04-03 Thread scott Ford 
Excellent Steve, good to know

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 8:56 AM Steve Beaver  wrote:

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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread scott Ford 
Hey Lionel,

I have Verizon FIOS can I tie the mesh network you mentioned into it ...?
We have a crazy device house, a lot of WiFi..

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:33 AM Lionel B Dyck  wrote:

> I have the Linksys Velop and it works great:
> https://www.linksys.com/us/velop/
>
>
> Lionel B. Dyck <
> Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com
>
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Tivoli Tape Optimizer

2020-04-03 Thread Richards, Robert B. 
Has anyone written a home grown utility to build control cards, etc. for Tivoli 
Tape Optimizer (TTO)?

I have a project to copy several thousands of tapes, hence the request. Make 
that several tens of thousands.

Thanks in advance,

Bob

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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Lionel B Dyck 
I have the Linksys Velop and it works great:  https://www.linksys.com/us/velop/


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Re: Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Lance D. Jackson 
Yes, check out AmpliFi:
https://store.amplifi.com/products/amplifi-mesh-wi-fi-system

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Mesh Router

2020-04-03 Thread Steve Beaver 
Does anyone have an opinion on which of the various mesh router extenders to 
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Re: Sometime

2020-04-03 Thread Steve Beaver 
UGreen 4-Port USB 3.0

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Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-03 Thread Binyamin Dissen 
Interesting numbers.

But I looked at the current doc and it still appears to be problem state only.

Also, do you numbers include setup or just program check handling? I figured
FRRs would be a lot better than ESTAE(X).

On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:28:13 -0500 Jim Mulder  wrote:

:> These are my results from a benchmark I did 4 years ago:
:>
:>Testcases which loop  recovering/retrying from an 
:>operation exception.
:>Using default system trace size - 1MB per CPU,  with 
:>20 CPUs, so 20MB of data to snap)
:>z13 machine
:>
:>RecoveryIterations  CPU seconds  Ratio
:>--  ---  -
:>ESPIE   x'20'  3.531.0
:>FRR x'20' 45.66   12.9
:>ESTAEX (no SNAPTRC) x' 2' 98.95   28.0
:>ESTAEX (SNAPTRC)x'  1000'102.83   14,914.7
:>
:>
:>Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test  IBM Corp. 
:>Poughkeepsie NY
:>(845) 435-4741
:>D10JHM1@PLPSC  (MVS)   JMULDER@S390VM  (VM)
:>
:>> From: "Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw" 
:>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:>> Date: 04/02/2020 08:13 PM
:>> Subject: Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)
:>> Sent by: "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" 
:>> 
:>> I think the reason that handling interrupts in ESPIE is faster than 
:>> ESTAE is simply that ESPIE sets an exit to the FLIH, whereas ESTAE 
:>> sets an exit to the SLIH.
:>> 
:>> Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw | Security Lead | RSM Partners Ltd  
:>> Web:  www.rsmpartners.com
:>> ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.’
:>> 
:>> -Original Message-
:>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
:>> Behalf Of Charles Mills
:>> Sent: 02 April 2020 20:59
:>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:>> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd 
:>sub-tasks)
:>> 
:>> As Peter seems to imply, ESPIE interrupts are apparently noticeably 
:>> lower overhead than ESTAE interrupts. If data or addressing 
:>> exceptions were expected I definitely *would* use ESPIE. I would 
:>> save ESTAE for unexpected (well, expected unexpected) conditions. My
:>> opinion: no benchmarks, no source code.
:>> 
:>> Charles
:>
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