I've used WS_FTP for 20 yrs and it's got just about everything. Don't know
about PDSE. Has auto for mode selection and gets it right most of the time. For
PDS's does MGETs and MPUTs like a bat.
Trial available at:https://www.ipswitch.com/ftp-client
In a message dated 6/17/2020 11:52:21 PM
Sometimes all that's allowed, though. Some of my clients lock up FTP, and make
me use IND$FILE via whatever local 3270 emulation they use.
This can be a major pain. Whenever I start at a new installation, one of my
first jobs is to load up a bunch of REXX tools I've written over the years.
I experimented with that when I first became aware of it, but stopped using it
for some reason. I liked very much the ability to use ISPF Edit on some PC
files - and vice versa, sometimes - but for file transfer I thought it was 'way
too slow. Is that not the case?
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I'm an old guy. (Maybe a lot of us are.) I still call it "the DOS window" in
my head, I think because I predate Win 3.1; for a long time I was a plain DOS
user (the PC DOS, not the early mainframe DOS). Win 3.1 wasn't really a
Windows operating system as it's understood now; DOS was the OS,
> Do tinyURLs track you?
Probably.
> I can't imagine what other business model they have.
Advertising and paid, custom tiny URLs. If Gil wanted to be able to generate
paul.gi/xx links, Bit.ly might be able to help you out for a fee.
Charles
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Also slower than a dog, and if you are working for the security folks,
basically unaudited.
Charles
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Hi Elaine.
That probably depends upon which 3270 Emulation software you are using.
Which one is it?
Regards,.
David
On 2020-06-17 22:14, Elaine Beal wrote:
so I don't know where my PA1 key is except in my TN3270 session keyboard
what is it when I'm on the console?
I can display and change the
I, too, like ISPF WSA for file transfer and editing PC files with ISPF Editor,
However
Our marvellous SysProgs have advised me that Z/OS 2.4 is the last release which
will support WSA.
I expect I will be retired before 2.5 comes along but I'd appreciate any
guidance for a reliable alternative.
so I don't know where my PA1 key is except in my TN3270 session keyboard
what is it when I'm on the console?
I can display and change the PFkeys but don't know what the PA1 key is.
and as expected, the TN3270 key doesn't work on the console
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 22:05:02 -0400, David Spiegel wrote:
>
>I have painfully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) mangled
>a Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation.
>It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP).
>
>On 2020-06-17 21:38, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>>
Hi Gil,
I have painfully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) mangled
a Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation.
It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP).
Regards,
David
On 2020-06-17 21:38, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 20:29:08 -0500,
For what it is worth, I prefer the file transfer features supported by the
ISPF Workstation Agent. Performs well and is easy to automate using Rexx
and ISPF services.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 21:38 Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020
https://bit.ly/2YbqTGL
Charles
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On Wed, 17 Jun
Hi Rex,
It does not appear to be SDSF per se.
I displayed the Job output with the (TSO) OUTPUT Command ... Same result
as yours.
Regards,
David
On 2020-06-17 17:37, Pommier, Rex wrote:
Hi Lizette,
I'm the OP. :-)
My expectation is that when a job gets submitted with TYPRUN=COPY, I get a
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 20:29:08 -0500, Shawn Prenevost wrote:
>I am pretty happy with Bluezone as a paid product (Not sure if the FTP
>client is free) has GUI and I helped a user script an FTP to the mainframe
>that stored their password in an encrypted session definition... In the
>past I was also
I am pretty happy with Bluezone as a paid product (Not sure if the FTP
client is free) has GUI and I helped a user script an FTP to the mainframe
that stored their password in an encrypted session definition... In the
past I was also happy to use windows command line FTP when I was allowed a
non
Good point. As a matter of fact, I looked at both jobs' output on both the
2.3 and 2.4 systems with SDSF.
To be completely unambiguous, I think I must be wordy & redundant (not a
poke at anyone... take that literally).
The TYPRUN=COPY job that *ran* on 2.3 displayed with complete JCL in SDSF
on
I wonder what EXEC CICS SPOOLREAD brings back? We don't have z/OS 2.4, so
can't test against that.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:43 AM Pommier, Rex
wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> As the OP, I agree that this doesn't appear to be an SDSF issue. I was
> trying to make sure it wasn't a display issue with
DOS could really mean DOS (COMMAND.COM) executables, although I don't know
whether 10 supports them. More likely it's not actually a DOS application but
uses the API that started with NT and is called from CMD.EXE..
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I think that it is worth an RFE if you can put together a compelling business
case. Be sure to cover any functionality that's important to you, e.g.,
Program Objects?
PDS(E) directory data
Performance for multiple members in the same PDS(E)
Record formats
Character set
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 16:58:07 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>No flames from me but Windows "DOS" FTP has no TLS support -- is that not
>right?
>
Is "DOS" the same as "cmd.exe"? The latter seems clearer.
>Not needed in every situation but required in some.
-- gil
No flames from me but Windows "DOS" FTP has no TLS support -- is that not
right?
Not needed in every situation but required in some.
Charles
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On 18/06/2020 12:24 am, Kirk Wolf wrote:
Lionel,
I wasn't thinking of using the "all members" form of cp - that seems like
it should be *much* better, although it would depend on how cp works under
the covers - evidence indicates that it just loops and does
alloc/open/close/free on each member.
I know I'm inviting censorious and/or contemptuous lectures, but I've always
been happy with using Windows FTP from my DOS window. I whipped up a decent
.bat command that asks for me to enter my password (but doesn't save it
afterward) and executes the commands I prepared ahead of time. What
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 08:52:52 +1000, Andrew Rowley wrote:
>On 18/06/2020 1:43 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>>>
(Concerning preallocating the PDS):
>>
>> I'm mystified that it made a difference since Lionel never used the allocate
>> "dd" in the call to "cp". Only SVC 99 knows.
>
>I was doing some
Yes! I pretty much need to have two different "hosts" defined for the same
LPAR: one "MVS" and one "UNIX." This is in Ispwitch WS_FTP. (Only one FTP
server STC on the LPAR.)
Not a problem at all. I can open multiple host windows, so I can transfer a
convention dataset one minute and a UNIX
Do you think its worth an RFE?
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I think that technically it would be a piece of cake,
On 18/06/2020 1:43 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 09:24:58 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
I wasn't thinking of using the "all members" form of cp ...
I'm curious - how much time did you save by preallocating the PDS?
I'm mystified that it made a difference since Lionel never used the
I think that technically it would be a piece of cake, although it would take
some careful design to make it efficient and transparent.
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Our whitelisting software blocks every execution of a BAT or CMD file as being
possibly dangerous. Yikes! At least they allow us to use manual command line
commands.
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DIDOCS does not provide for assigning alternate meaning to PA keys. PA1 is
retrieve, PA2 is cancel and PA3 has no assigned meaning.
OTOH, you can assign meanings to PFK1-24, and you can have multiple PFK tables
providing alternative assignments.
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This triggered me to look to see what version of ISPW we are on4.04.so
I guess we are in the same boat as you!
Dennis
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I think I tried that, but will check again. Someday
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> Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access
>
> I don't know
I just tried using WinSCP today and I couldn't get it to recognize MVS data
sets. Is there some option I am missing? This might be ideal in that it,
unlike the others already mentioned, is currently used in our environment so
wouldn't require a lot of bureaucracy to just perform a POC.
I don't know if this is your problem or not, but in FileZilla's Site
Manager, I have two hosts defined for a few z/OS systems, one for MVS, and
one for USS. The "server type" matters... "MVS..." vs. "Unix".
sas
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 6:13 PM Gibney, Dave wrote:
> Filezilla for non OMVS
My goodness, I absolutely agree that a command line interface is ideal. Which,
because of no SSL/TLS support, as you say eliminates the Windows provided
client. In the past the only good (and free) command line client I've found
for Windows is MoveIt Freely. I used to use it extensively
I mean technical effort on IBM's part to implement it.
It seems to me that, along with some mapping/naming rules and sensible
defaults, in addition to Lionel's use case it could also be useful for FTP
clients, so non-z/OS users can have "understandable" access to MVS data sets
w/o having to
Hey Carmen,
Is that z/OS Explorer (free) or is that IBM Developer (formerly Rational
Developer -- expensive) for Z that you are referring to? I know that z/OS
Explorer uses FTP under the covers, but I've not seen it having a normal drag
and drop style FTP GUI, or have I seen an ability to run
Filezilla for non OMVS files. Not so good for OMVS filesystem data. Thing is,
it used to work, then he broke it. I prefer the Filezilla GUI, so I only use
Bluezone when I need to. Recently, the delay o let me know that Rocket has
acquired Bluezone has be slightly irritating.
> -Original
+1 for CLI!
-1 for corporate nannies who want to log every time you use a command prompt
window because that is so dangerous for the masses . . . or maybe especially
for programmers who *think* they know what they are doing . . .
I use FileZilla, it has a few quirks but mostly it works for my
Hi Steve,
As the OP, I agree that this doesn't appear to be an SDSF issue. I was trying
to make sure it wasn't a display issue with my third party software, and
knowing that others who are running SDSF are having the same issue gives me
confidence that it is a problem in (most likely) JES2.
Hi Lizette,
I'm the OP. :-)
My expectation is that when a job gets submitted with TYPRUN=COPY, I get a
listing of the job - including all the JCL and in-stream SYSIN etc.
TYPRUN=COPY is used because TYPRUN=SCAN doesn't include in-stream SYSIN data.
I'm not really that interested in which
And don't forget "Muggeridge's Law" :-)
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:32 PM Jesse 1 Robinson
wrote:
> Malcom Muggeridge was famous for characterizing UK and US as being
> *separated* by a common language.
>
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team
I don't know why WXTRN (weak reference) was specified, but it appears to be
a mistake. Just delete that line. A V-con generates a regular external
reference all by itself.
Weak references generally are only needed by libraries of statically linked
programs for some fairly arcane reasons.
sas
>From
>https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieab200/modmapfmt.htm
>
The binder writes a module map as part of the saved module under the following
circumstances:
There is a strong reference to IEWBMMP in one of the modules input to a bind.
"Strong
Well... I just tried it, and it's true... when run on z/OS 2.4, only the
job card is listed; whereas on 2.3, all the JCL shows up.
N.B.: This isn't an SDSF issue. SDSF does not run jobs, and does not spool
their output. JES2 (or 3) does that.
sas
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 4:50 PM Lizette
On 6/17/2020 6:25 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:
What command do use to set up FMIDSETs?
SET BDY(GLOBAL).
UCLIN.
ADD FMIDSET(MYFSET) FMID(FMID001, FMID002).
ENDUCL.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.gim1000/uclgfm.htm
Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E
This is an interesting discussion.
So TYPRUN=COPY is just suppose to copy the JCL to SYSOUT. I am not sure what
the expectation is by the OP
But on my z/OS 2.3 system with SDSF (I know he wants to know about other vendors
I can see the JCL as part of the output of the TYPRUN=COPY
If I have
thanks. so how do I define the MVS PA1-PA3 keys to the console?
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I don't know what you (or I!) are talking about but if the module map is
created by the inclusion of IEWBMMP then making it a WXTRN means that the
binder will not automatically include it. If you want to declare it WXTRN for
some reason then you will need to include its module explicitly.
Or
I get the same result under z/OS 2.4. I submit the following job:
//ALOEFTST JOB $,CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=Y,TYPRUN=COPY
//IEFBR14 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
SDSF has a record count of 12 on the Held Output Display panel, but only shows
11 when the job is selected. The JESJCLIN DDNAME has
Thanks, all. I got a couple offline responses including one from a support
person at CA/Broadcom. CA-ACCUCHEK is still available and supported. Now I
get to see if it'll do what the developer wants done.
Apparently when I put my search criteria in, I neglected the dash between CA
and
Criteria we use is - When was the last time an IMAGE Copy was needed?
How much dasd/tape does it take up
How long is the application alive ( has it been in place for 5 years, 100
years)
>From those questions we get an idea of what time retention is needed for the
image copies.
Some shops - the
Are there any good recommendations/suggestions on retaining DB2 Image Copies?
Specifically in an environment where all data is replicated. It is my belief
that we are retaining the data for Image Copies much longer than it needs to be
in many cases, but I'm not sure if there is a best
Sorry, Gil, I should have been more explicit. WinSCP has a decent scripting
facility. I wish they'd add encryption to the DOS FTP client.
Also: not SCP; WinSCP. Quite a difference.
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>There might be better way but I put the V(IEWBMMP) and "WXTRN IEWBMMP" in a
>separate CSECT from the program with the mapping macro.
Dave,
I just read this thread, and I have a question. We recently learned about
IEWBMMP, and we may have a use for it in our shop. But I'm confused about the
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 19:41:23 +, Jackson, Rob wrote:
>WinSCP is decent; there are countless class libraries as well. I just enjoy
>the DOS CLI. Man, I wish they'd add encryption to it.
>
Doesn't the "S" in "SCP" mean "Secure", therefore the transmission is encrypted.
But:
WinSCP is decent; there are countless class libraries as well. I just enjoy
the DOS CLI. Man, I wish they'd add encryption to it.
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You will get almost as many opinions as there are folks on this list. The
question is a lot like "what is a good brand of car for weekend trips?"
I use Ipswitch WS_FTP Professional. I have little experience with anything
else for non-mainframe to mainframe access so I am fat, dumb and happy. It
CA-ACCUCHEK was a file comparison utility similar to comparex.
Joe
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 2:06 PM Pommier, Rex
wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Based on the subject line of my post, does anybody know anything about
> something called CA-ACCUCHEK? I have a developer asking about it and I
> know
Hello list,
Based on the subject line of my post, does anybody know anything about
something called CA-ACCUCHEK? I have a developer asking about it and I know
nothing about it. I checked CA's (OK, Broadcom's) web site and got no hits.
Duck Duck Go wasn't any help either, pointing me to some
The devil is in the details. I want tools that work together. That includes the
ability to mix and match CLI and GUI. I should be able to script the GUI in a
decent language.
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My opinion, which is absolutely worthless: FileZilla sucks as a mainframe FTP
client. BZ is far superior. If you don't need SSL/TLS (which, of course, you
do), the "DOS" client is better than both. Who doesn't love a good ol' CLI?
First Horizon Bank
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'not starting to use' ===> 'now starting to use' ???
.
.
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PA1-3 are for actions not needing additional input, so there isn't as much need
to define them as there is for PA1-24, which drag along modified fields.
But don't confuse defining how MVS software responds to PA1 with define the
keyboard mapping for generating PA1.
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correction :) I am NOW using...
I've always liked the reflections FTP client, I've not been able to use any
other client, but I am now starting to use IBM's Z/explorer , that GUI along
with an MVS address space will get you MVS dataset, USS filesystem, local
fileystems access plus the ability
Technical effort or administrative effort. I suspect that it will be a lot more
involved to get it approved than to actually implement it.
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I've always liked the reflections FTP client, I've not been able to use any
other client, but I am not starting to use IBM's Z/explorer , that GUI along
with an MVS address space will get you MVS dataset, USS filesystem, local
fileystems access plus the ability to run shell scripts, and tso
Hi Frank,
I'm Salva Carrasco. Nice to ear my old code is working elsewhere.
You are correct, the CIBXUTOK is fetch protected & encrypted. You can't see the
userid from unauthorized code.
As a workaround for EMCS, we only permit (CONSOLE CLASS) users to open console
with their own username + 1
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 17:12:11 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
>I wonder what kind of effort it might be for z/OS to support Unix path names
>as aliases/links to MVS legacy data sets. Probably a lot of work, but it
>seems like it would be quite useful for situations such as this where the Unix
Seagull (aka Blue Zone FTP) .. no longer supported but I think it's the best
and still works on Windows 10
Also recommend FileZilla.
Best Regards
Paul
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so, when I do a D PFK, it doesn't give an option to set a PA1 key.
the only PA1 key I have defined is for my 3270 session, the console access is
via VNC
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 11:07:58 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:43 AM Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 09:24:58 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>>
>If you have a reusable allocation, then the cost is less than a new
>allocation. open/close for each member would still be
I use Filezilla (Open Source) and Bluezone (now from Rocket) Both have their
pluses and minuses.
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Filezilla works great for me. It handles MVS pretty well, mapping DSN
nodes and PDSes to mostly act like directories.
sas
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 2:10 PM Frank Swarbrick
wrote:
> What FTP client do you use to access MVS data sets? Do you like it?
>
>
What FTP client do you use to access MVS data sets? Do you like it?
I personally use the FTP Client that is part of Micro Focus (formerly
Attachmate) Reflection Desktop for IBM (Reflection Workspace). Being an
application suite dedicated to mainframe access (the application is primarily a
G.B. Shaw was even more famous for it
Jim Horne
Malcom Muggeridge was famous for characterizing UK and US as being *separated*
by a common language.
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Frank - true it is all z/OS but that is like saying it's all Europe - in this
case z/OS speaks one language and OMVS another - they just share the continent
and unlike England and the US they don't share a common language
Lionel B. Dyck <
Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
"Worry more
I wonder what kind of effort it might be for z/OS to support Unix path names as
aliases/links to MVS legacy data sets. Probably a lot of work, but it seems
like it would be quite useful for situations such as this where the Unix
application only supports Unix paths.
Just a wild thought. Not
XMIT might be but the goal is to be as git compliant as possible with zigi
being just a git frontend (aka IDE) that provides the interface to z/OS
datasets for git. Thus using XMIT format would defeat the purpose and violate
git in many ways
Lionel B. Dyck <
Website:
It might be more efficient to use XMIT format. Is there a REXX function package
available for unpacking members?
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Heck, if it's two ATM transactions, one second matters.
Charles
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Subject: Re: CVTLSO race (was: ...
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:43 AM Paul Gilmartin <
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> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 09:24:58 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
> >
> >I wasn't thinking of using the "all members" form of cp ...
> >I'm curious - how much time did you save by preallocating the PDS?
Guess that would be me your talking about...
Duncan
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 09:24:58 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>
>I wasn't thinking of using the "all members" form of cp ...
>I'm curious - how much time did you save by preallocating the PDS?
>
I'm mystified that it made a difference since Lionel never used the allocate
"dd" in the call to "cp". Only
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:33:48 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>If a mainframe process is synchronizing with an off-box process, or engaging
>in communications that contains a timestamp governed by a standard, isn't
>"true" UTC a requirement?
>
The current CVTLSO is 27 seconds:
Well yes, I don't know much about the topic but your question reminds me of a
time working for a large Aerospace company when catia models were being created
and modified by engineers across the globe, the indexing tool was DB2 to keep
everything in sync our mainframe systems and the systems
If a mainframe process is synchronizing with an off-box process, or engaging
in communications that contains a timestamp governed by a standard, isn't
"true" UTC a requirement?
Charles
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Lionel,
I wasn't thinking of using the "all members" form of cp - that seems like
it should be *much* better, although it would depend on how cp works under
the covers - evidence indicates that it just loops and does
alloc/open/close/free on each member.If only the cp authors had better
C
http://www.cbttape.org/spla.htm
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I think he may be thinking of the old SHARE Program Library
Kirk is spot on (as usual). You need a library like this one
https://support.sas.com/documentation/onlinedoc/ccompiler/doc750/html/lr2/z2mvsbri.htm
On 2020-06-17 8:21 PM, Lionel B Dyck wrote:
Kirk - just allocating the dataset prior to the cp was faster - and that was
without passing the
Default is MSGLEVEL=(1,1)
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Subject: Re: [External] Re: z/OS 2.4 and SDSF question
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Is it worth reminding that leap second offset and time zone are basically
for human consumption?
The values used for real processing ought to be the value returned by
STCK/STCKE/STCKF unmodified.
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
Kirk - just allocating the dataset prior to the cp was faster - and that was
without passing the //DD.
Alloc f(dd) shr reuse ds('my.pds')
Bpxwunix - cp -v -S a=.txt "//'my.pds'" .
Free f(dd)
Appreciate your suggestion
Lionel B. Dyck <
Website:
Kirk - thank you for the ideas.
What I'm doing is in the ZIGI (see https://zigi.rocks) where I need to copy PDS
members to/from USS so that Git can manage them. With small projects this isn't
an issue but with larger projects it could take enough time for you to go to
lunch ☹
Btw. I voted
Hi Lionel,
Can you provide any more detail on how you are invoking "cp" ?
- With cp, there won't be any way to avoid opening the PDSE for each
member, but you might get some improvement by allocating a DD to the PDSE
and then passing //DD(member) to cp, so as to avoid allocation each time.
If
" What's on the non-OMVS side? a PDS(E)? Multiple PS data sets?"
On the z/OS side is a PDS(E).
Thanks
Lionel B. Dyck <
Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
"Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you
are, reputation merely what others think you are." -
Hi Lizette,
What command do use to set up FMIDSETs?
thanks
Bill
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