Re: DS8K thin provisioning error

2020-07-27 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello Atilla, I do not use IEA499E anywhere in z/OS console. From ISMF all the z/OS storage groups and non sms volumes are sufficient. On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 8:59 AM Attila Fogarasi wrote: > z/OS fully supports thin provisioned volumes as long as you are on the > right software level (e.g.

Re: DS8K thin provisioning error

2020-07-27 Thread Attila Fogarasi
z/OS fully supports thin provisioned volumes as long as you are on the right software level (e.g. for DFSSMSdss APARs OA48707 and OA50675; there are others). z./OS issues console message IEA499E at the pool capacity thresholds. Are you not seeing any z/OS messages? You can use the IDCAMS LISTDATA

DS8K thin provisioning error

2020-07-27 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello, We are using DS8866 box for our z/OS and z/VM. Today in DS8k console we are seeing a message as Trim Event Pending - Events will be trimmed in less than a week Pool Over Threshold - Pool EP_EASYTIER_CKD_2 over provisioned capacity over threshold. I believe Thin provisioned volumes ar

Re: GQSCAN vs ISGQUERY

2020-07-27 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/27/2020 1:59 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: Is there any clear advantage to converting to ISGQUERY? We have no benchmark comparing ISGQUERY and GQSCAN, but our measurements indicate ISGENQ/ISGDEQ are slightly slower than ENQ/DEQ. I don't think GQSCAN will ever go away. If all you need is a tw

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread lenru...@gmail.com
Long ago and far away, we had a similar problem.  The VTAM applid and the CICS region userid were the same.  Users would type the applid twice, end up trying to logon to CICS as the CICS region ID, then use their userid or password and revoke the region userid.   CESN is a user replaceable prog

Re: OMVS CP command anomaly

2020-07-27 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 28/07/2020 4:48 am, Lionel B Dyck wrote: Created several ISPF panels from DTL. The result is an ISPF panel with attribute characters that are binary (hex) with examples being x'01' , x'02', x'05, x'0D', and more. Copying these PDS members to an OMVS filesystem using cp works fine. The da

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Steve Beaver
In the bad old days we used a bit setting in the ACF2 FDR to control access to a CICS but I have no idea how to do that in RACF using an exit Sent from my iPhone I promise you I can’t type or Spell on any smartphone > On Jul 27, 2020, at 17:47, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > > It was a long time

Re: SHAREOPTIONS from a program?

2020-07-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
CSI -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Tony Harminc [t...@harminc.net] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 7:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SHAREOPTION

SHAREOPTIONS from a program?

2020-07-27 Thread Tony Harminc
Simple question - I think I should know the answer, but I don't. How can an application program using a VSAM dataset discover the SHAREOPTIONS that were specified when the cluster was DEFINEd/ALTERed? Can this be done easily before OPEN? After OPEN? There are two flag bits in ACBINFL2, but that

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread Charles Mills
Perhaps the user exit has a hard-coded exception for 'FTPD' and not for 'FTPDS'? Well, what I say about user-hostile still stands. If it's not the FTP daemon that was written this way, then it is some user exit. Whatever software was written this way, it is inexcusable. I don't know if the part

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
Indeed. Take the Transient Queue Manager - Please! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson [jesse1.robin...@sce.com] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
It was a long time ago, but yes, TCAS or some inbred cousin issued the WTOR and whole thing waited. Much more recently TPX would do the same thing. Improper coding is not the purview of user software. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE M

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
Do you mean that TCAS issued a WTOR? Because that's the only way I can imagine TSO having had such a problem. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jesse 1 Ro

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
This is not a 'RACF problem'. The problem lies with product that manages logins using RACF. Whipper snappers believe it or not, once upon a time TSO itself had this problem. The task gets a wait from RACF, but that task is running in the mainline of the top guy. The proper way to handle this is

Re: [External] Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread Pommier, Rex
Nice catch, Joe. Charles, I would agree about a customer-facing process not generating messages upon termination. However, the FTP daemon isn't "quite" that bad. Just for curiosity, I tried to start a second FTPD on my sandbox. It did what it was supposed to do, started the FTPD1 daemon and

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Tony Harminc
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 18:03, ITschak Mugzach wrote: > It happens because racf is a single task. This is why other users can't > login until the wtor is replied. > I very much doubt this. It may be that this part of *CICS* is a single task for all its users, but RACF itself pretty much runs as a

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread ITschak Mugzach
It happens because racf is a single task. This is why other users can't login until the wtor is replied. ITschak בתאריך יום ג׳, 28 ביולי 2020, 0:13, מאת Jesse 1 Robinson ‏< jesse1.robin...@sce.com>: > I think we're asking the wrong question. These folk just make an ordinary > fat fingered typo

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread Joe Monk
IMHO, the clue to this is in his printout. PGM=FTPD,REGION=0M,TIME=NOLIMIT,PARM='POSIX(ON) ALL31(ON)/TRACE PORT 990' IEF043I Actions taken by SMFLIMxx parmlib policy for FTPSDFTPD Step MEMLIMIT set to ONOUDONT by policy - SMFLIM00 0002 So, it looks some exit is killing the task becau

Re: OMVS CP command anomaly

2020-07-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:49:52 -0500, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >Example of the issue: > >ISPF Panel code: > >)ATTR > 0D TYPE(PS) > 05 TYPE(PS) >. . . >)BODY > >Ideally would like a workstation IDE user to be able to view the data and >perhaps update it and at some point return to z/OS for use. > This

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Joe Monk
You can get around the problem with an MPF exit to automatically REVOKE. Look at CBT 708. Joe On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:32 PM McCabe, Ron wrote: > Hello IBM Listers, > > Got an interesting problem that I would like to know how we can avoid. > Our Help Desk users TSO accounts have the SPECIAL AT

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread Charles Mills
Oh man! Talk about user-hostile programming. How could anyone ship a customer-facing program that detects an error and then just quits with (a.) RC=0 and (b.) no message whatsoever. No "Hello World I am FTPD V2R3" and no error message. Even if you can't open your usual log or listing file you can W

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I think we're asking the wrong question. These folk just make an ordinary fat fingered typo now and then. If that happens on TSO, the user is hung up but the system runs along fine. Apparently in CICS, the whole shebang goes into a wait. I've seen this for other non-CICS products. . . J.O.Ski

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Itschak Mugzach
CICS does not require a CICS segment, so if you do not block the user at the APPL, the default user CICS segment inherented to the user. Still don't understand why the helpdesk users password authentication fails if it works under TSO. ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software

Re: OMVS CP command anomaly

2020-07-27 Thread Itschak Mugzach
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GQSCAN vs ISGQUERY

2020-07-27 Thread Tony Harminc
The doc for GQSCAN says that "ISGQUERY is the recommended replacement for the GQSCAN service". But it says nothing about GQSCAN being deprecated - let alone eventually removed. We've used GQSCAN "forever" (actually since July 2000), and I need to make some updates to the code that uses it. But the

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 27 Jul 2020 13:40:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main stars...@mindspring.com (Lizette Koehler) wrote: >First if you have not done so, you might want to join the CICS or RACF >Lists. While I am at least 20 years out of date, it used to be that someone had to be set up in each CICS r

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread ITschak Mugzach
How about appl class? If the user is not authorized to the cics applid, he can't login. Btw, why (and how) is their password different on cics? If racf recognize they have the special attribute, it seems this is the same racf... ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Informatio

Re: OMVS CP command anomaly

2020-07-27 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Example of the issue: ISPF Panel code: )ATTR 0D TYPE(PS) 05 TYPE(PS) . . . )BODY Ideally would like a workstation IDE user to be able to view the data and perhaps update it and at some point return to z/OS for use. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about y

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Itschak Mugzach
How about appl class? If the user is not authorized to the cics applid, he can't login. Btw, why (and how) is their password different on cics? If racf recognize they have the special attribute, it seems this is the same racf... ITschak בתאריך יום ב׳, 27 ביולי 2020, 23:40, מאת Lizette Koehler

Re: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
First if you have not done so, you might want to join the CICS or RACF Lists. I think the IRR profiles can avoid the use of SPECIAL and OPERATIONS, but you would need to research that I think the RACF List may be more helpful CICShttp://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/cics-l.html RACFht

Re: OMVS CP command anomaly

2020-07-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 13:48:21 -0500, Lionel B Dyck wrote: > >Created several ISPF panels from DTL. The result is an ISPF panel with >attribute characters that are binary (hex) with examples being x'01' , >x'02', x'05, x'0D', and more. > >Copying these PDS members to an OMVS filesystem using cp work

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
This might be a case of using the RACF VTAMAPPL class and only granting access to your helpdesk folks to the TSO APPL's and not the CICS Appls. You'd get more expert advice from the RACF-L if you wanted Jerry Whitteridge jerry.whitteri...@albertsons.com Manager Mainframe Systems & HP Non-Stop Alb

Keeping TSO users our of CICS

2020-07-27 Thread McCabe, Ron
Hello IBM Listers, Got an interesting problem that I would like to know how we can avoid. Our Help Desk users TSO accounts have the SPECIAL ATTRIBUTE so they can reset passwords and define new users. These TSO accounts are not defined to CICS but every once in awhile one of them will try to l

Re: Where is the data compression manual SA22-7208

2020-07-27 Thread Sri h Kolusu
John, I tried sending you the PDF version of the manual via offline message, but looks like your email address is not accepting them. If you want a copy of the pdf then email me directly. Thanks. Kolusu -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

OMVS CP command anomaly

2020-07-27 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Here is the anomaly. Created several ISPF panels from DTL. The result is an ISPF panel with attribute characters that are binary (hex) with examples being x'01' , x'02', x'05, x'0D', and more. Copying these PDS members to an OMVS filesystem using cp works fine. The data is NOT being cop

Re: Diskcopy Error During Backup Operation

2020-07-27 Thread Edward Finnell
Place a service call. Show them the EREP output from the window of IOS messages. In a message dated 7/27/2020 10:12:21 AM Central Standard Time, burha...@maintec.in writes: During the copy operation, we are receiving the following errors for certain volumes however the job runs successfully with

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
SDSF has supported JES3 since z/OS 1.10. Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw 'Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: 27 July 2020 16:31 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] St

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
Possibly some info in syslogd > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:31 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages. > > It looks like you're using

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, Please see: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp4531.pdf Regards, David On 2020-07-27 11:31, Seymour J Metz wrote: It looks like you're using JES3. I thought thad SDSF didn't support it. CC 0 would have been a useful datum in the original question. It looks like

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
It looks like you're using JES3. I thought thad SDSF didn't support it. CC 0 would have been a useful datum in the original question. It looks like the FTP server doesn't issue an informational message when a copy is already running. RFE? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, The start and stop happen because, another task is started, usually named FTPD1. To see it, you can issue (on the console or via SDSF/EJES): D A,FTPD1 As an aside, z/OS V2.5 will be the last release supporting IBM JES3. After that, you will be unsupported, convert to Phoenix's JES3 or conv

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread Skippy the Ancient
Responding to all posters, not just Mr Metz. 1. I already tried calling the proc from JCL. It ran, stopped immediately and returned no error messages. 2. I started the proc with the MSGCLASS and did receive output. It was identical to the JCL call; immediate stop and no error messages. I will