Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:

>Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or 
>create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error 
>back to the user. Application filename validation is what leads to these 
>inconsistencies.
> 
I'll emphasize that.  Applications and UIs should not modify filenames -- add 
blanks;
remove blanks; change case, etc.  A related problem arose a while ago when the
requirement (possibly delusional) for mixed-case passwords appeared.  Many
applications which though they were doing a users a favor by converting 
passwords
to upper case had to be modified.  The operation should always have been left to
the security product.

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Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Charles Mills
Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or 
create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error 
back to the user. Application filename validation is what leads to these 
inconsistencies.

Charles

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Subject: Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle 
concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 21:28:26 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:
>
>Serious question - what would be the purpose for doing this?  I know you can, 
>I'm just trying to grasp a good reason for doing so.  Security by obscurity 
>(not valid in my mind)?
> 
Because it's possible.  Someone will do it.  Test suites should verify
that other components support it properly.  The security needn't be
by obscurity.  The security product or ACLs could enforce chosen
rules.

To minimize programmer astonishment the syntax and semantics
should be uniform throughout the system.  I have a couple experiences
older than OMVS.

I used ISPF LM services to create some PDS members with hyphens
in their names, e.g. FOO-BAR.  Subsequently I decided to add ISPF
statistics to such members with LMMSTATS.  LMMSTATS deems the
hyphen a syntax error.

Similarly, I once created a data set such as:
DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=hlq.X.FOO-BAR
No problem.  Later, I tried
DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=hlq.Y.FOO-BAR,
   DCB=hlq.X.FOO-BAR
Again, the hyphen caused a syntax error.  The restriction is
documented, but why not be uniform?

As long as STOW and BLDL have existed they have supported
mixed-case member names.  But most high-level user interfaces
aren't even case-insensitive: they don't find any member name
containing lower case characters.  An IBM employee has said
on this list that those names are invalid.  But why doesn't STOW
report them as errors.

I disagree with Emerson about consistency.

>
>
>Alas, the padding and stripping mean that 'WOMBAT', 'WOMBAT  ', and 'WOMBAT
>',
>distinct UNIX files, would be conflated.

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Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 21:28:26 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:
>
>Serious question - what would be the purpose for doing this?  I know you can, 
>I'm just trying to grasp a good reason for doing so.  Security by obscurity 
>(not valid in my mind)?
> 
Because it's possible.  Someone will do it.  Test suites should verify
that other components support it properly.  The security needn't be
by obscurity.  The security product or ACLs could enforce chosen
rules.

To minimize programmer astonishment the syntax and semantics
should be uniform throughout the system.  I have a couple experiences
older than OMVS.

I used ISPF LM services to create some PDS members with hyphens
in their names, e.g. FOO-BAR.  Subsequently I decided to add ISPF
statistics to such members with LMMSTATS.  LMMSTATS deems the
hyphen a syntax error.

Similarly, I once created a data set such as:
DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=hlq.X.FOO-BAR
No problem.  Later, I tried
DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=hlq.Y.FOO-BAR,
   DCB=hlq.X.FOO-BAR
Again, the hyphen caused a syntax error.  The restriction is
documented, but why not be uniform?

As long as STOW and BLDL have existed they have supported
mixed-case member names.  But most high-level user interfaces
aren't even case-insensitive: they don't find any member name
containing lower case characters.  An IBM employee has said
on this list that those names are invalid.  But why doesn't STOW
report them as errors.

I disagree with Emerson about consistency.

>
>
>Alas, the padding and stripping mean that 'WOMBAT', 'WOMBAT  ', and 'WOMBAT
>',
>distinct UNIX files, would be conflated.

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blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Pommier, Rex
Gil,

Serious question - what would be the purpose for doing this?  I know you can, 
I'm just trying to grasp a good reason for doing so.  Security by obscurity 
(not valid in my mind)?

Thanks,
Rex



Alas, the padding and stripping mean that 'WOMBAT', 'WOMBAT  ', and 'WOMBAT
',
distinct UNIX files, would be conflated.

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Re: ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

2020-09-29 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Sep 29, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Seymour J Metz  wrote:
> 
> It looks like HLASM is giving the wrong error message; the syntax diagram for 
> ORG shows the boundary as valid only if it follows a relocatable expression.
> 

Thanks, that was it.

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Re: ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

2020-09-29 Thread Steve Smith
Agreed on the wrong message.  I think ORG *,8 is what you want.  And it
should work regardless of SECTALGN & GOFF.

btw, I'd never run across this before, so thanks for the tip.  I've had one
of those wacky padding-to-a-boundary macros for years, but this might be
much better.  Assuming it works.

sas

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 4:51 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> It looks like HLASM is giving the wrong error message; the syntax diagram
> for ORG shows the boundary as valid only if it follows a relocatable
> expression.
> ...
>   405+ ORG   ,8
>  ** ASMA500W Requested alignment exceeds section alignment
>
>

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are a number of zCX APARs that are now available.  For those that are 
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Re: ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

2020-09-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
It looks like HLASM is giving the wrong error message; the syntax diagram for 
ORG shows the boundary as valid only if it follows a relocatable expression.


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Subject: ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

I’m trying to use the _boundary_ parameter on an assembler ORG statement, and I 
keep getting ASMA500W errors. I’ve specified GOFF and SECTALGN(4096):


1 High Level Assembler Option Summary   
(PTF UI62194)   Page1
-   
 HLASM R6.0  2020/09/29 14.55
0  No Overriding ASMAOPT Parameters
   Overriding Parameters-  
ESD,RXREF,MXREF,RLD,XREF(SHORT,UNREFS),DXREF,LIST(MAX),TERM,ASA,LC(58),GOFF,SECTALGN(4096),OBJ
   ECT
   No Process Statements


   Options for this Assembly
0NOADATA
…
 3 PARM/OPTION GOFF(NOADATA)

…
 3 PARM/OPTION SECTALGN(4096)


However, when I try to set a boundary on an ORG statement:


  405+ ORG   ,8
 ** ASMA500W Requested alignment exceeds section alignment


The last time I checked, 8 did not exceed 4096. Anyone have any suggestions 
about what I’m doing wrong?


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Re: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
No wild cards, but it does support  retrieving a complete member list for the 
concatenation.


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Subject: Re: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 
data sets?

On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 19:48:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>Broken As Designed (BAD). It actually takes less code to do it right than to 
>do it wrong with the current level of DFSMSdfp, although the broken code 
>already exists.

RFE?

DESERV?  Does DESERV support wildcards, needed by ISRDDN?  I don't see
that in the doc.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:15:43 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:
>
>..., but when I enter ISRDDN and try to browse a library concatenation
>with greater than 16 libraries in it, ...

Does DESERV support UNIX directories?  This is tantalizing:

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idad400/d4280.htm

Each name is comprised of a two-byte length field followed by the characters
of the name.
When searching for names with less than eight characters, the names are 
padded
on the right with blanks to make up eight characters. Names greater than 
eight
characters will have trailing blanks and nulls stripped (to a minimum 
length of
eight) before the search.

What, other than UNIX files would have "[n]ames greater than eight characters"?
Alas, the padding and stripping mean that 'WOMBAT', 'WOMBAT  ', and 'WOMBAT
',
distinct UNIX files, would be conflated.

LMINIT refuses UNIX files.  Something about F1 DSCB.  Why?

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Re: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 19:48:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>Broken As Designed (BAD). It actually takes less code to do it right than to 
>do it wrong with the current level of DFSMSdfp, although the broken code 
>already exists. 

RFE?

DESERV?  Does DESERV support wildcards, needed by ISRDDN?  I don't see
that in the doc.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:15:43 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:
>
>..., but when I enter ISRDDN and try to browse a library concatenation 
>with greater than 16 libraries in it, ...

Does DESERV support UNIX directories?  This is tantalizing:

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idad400/d4280.htm

Each name is comprised of a two-byte length field followed by the characters
of the name.
When searching for names with less than eight characters, the names are 
padded
on the right with blanks to make up eight characters. Names greater than 
eight
characters will have trailing blanks and nulls stripped (to a minimum 
length of
eight) before the search.

What, other than UNIX files would have "[n]ames greater than eight characters"?
Alas, the padding and stripping mean that 'WOMBAT', 'WOMBAT  ', and 'WOMBAT
',
distinct UNIX files, would be conflated.

LMINIT refuses UNIX files.  Something about F1 DSCB.  Why?

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ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

2020-09-29 Thread Pew, Curtis G
I’m trying to use the _boundary_ parameter on an assembler ORG statement, and I 
keep getting ASMA500W errors. I’ve specified GOFF and SECTALGN(4096):


1 High Level Assembler Option Summary   
(PTF UI62194)   Page1
-   
 HLASM R6.0  2020/09/29 14.55
0  No Overriding ASMAOPT Parameters 
 
   Overriding Parameters-  
ESD,RXREF,MXREF,RLD,XREF(SHORT,UNREFS),DXREF,LIST(MAX),TERM,ASA,LC(58),GOFF,SECTALGN(4096),OBJ

   ECT  

   No Process Statements


 

 
   Options for this Assembly

0NOADATA

…
 3 PARM/OPTION GOFF(NOADATA)


…
 3 PARM/OPTION SECTALGN(4096)   
 


However, when I try to set a boundary on an ORG statement:


  405+ ORG   ,8
 ** ASMA500W Requested alignment exceeds section alignment  



The last time I checked, 8 did not exceed 4096. Anyone have any suggestions 
about what I’m doing wrong?


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Re: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
Broken As Designed (BAD). It actually takes less code to do it right than to do 
it wrong with the current level of DFSMSdfp, although the broken code already 
exists. 

RFE?


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data sets?

On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:15:43 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:

>Robert,
>
>IDK if this specifically LMMINIT, but when I enter ISRDDN and try to browse a 
>library concatenation with greater than 16 libraries in it, I get this:
>
>Only the first sixteen data sets are shown in this list. ISRDDN uses ISPF
>services to process DD names and these services are limited to
>concatenations of sixteen or fewer data sets.
>
>Whichleeads me to believe the 16 limit is still there.  z/OS 2.4.
>
Perhaps worse, it does not report members in UNIX files in directories
among the 16 supported catenands.  So if I have member WOMBAT in
a zFS in a SYSLIB concatenation, it may show me a WOMBAT in a later
PDS(E) whereas HLASM will use the one in the zFS.  Treacherous
indeed.  I suspect that ISPF uses the antique technique of allocating
each catenand with DSORG=PS and parsing directory blocks.
Would DESERV do better?

I went to SR on this:
Record 55733,033,000
Created:04/11/22
... got an elaborate WAD.

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Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread Tony Thigpen
I am running IBMs Book Reader under CrossOver under Linux. Book Reader 
does not really have a 'Print all of the book' option.


Tony Thigpen

Paul Gilmartin wrote on 9/29/20 12:40 PM:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:23:29 -0400, Tony Harminc  wrote:


On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 16:12, Tony Thigpen wrote:


FYI, I do have a copy of GA23-0059-07 in PDF format that I created from
the BOO sometime in the past. If anyone wants a copy.


How did you convert it? I'm not aware of any IBM published tool to do that.


Print-to-PDF is intrinsic on some systems such as MacOS, perhaps optional
via virtual printer drivers on others.

But does Document Reader prohibit all printing with the intent of IP protection?

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Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:23:29 -0400, Tony Harminc  wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 16:12, Tony Thigpen wrote:
>
>> FYI, I do have a copy of GA23-0059-07 in PDF format that I created from
>> the BOO sometime in the past. If anyone wants a copy.
>
>How did you convert it? I'm not aware of any IBM published tool to do that.
>
Print-to-PDF is intrinsic on some systems such as MacOS, perhaps optional
via virtual printer drivers on others.

But does Document Reader prohibit all printing with the intent of IP protection?

--gil

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Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread Tony Thigpen

There used to be a web tool at:
http://ps-2.kev009.com/boo2pdf/

He has discontinued the web service, but does provide links if you want 
to install something on your computer.


Tony Thigpen

Tony Harminc wrote on 9/29/20 12:23 PM:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 16:12, Tony Thigpen  wrote:


FYI, I do have a copy of GA23-0059-07 in PDF format that I created from
the BOO sometime in the past. If anyone wants a copy.



How did you convert it? I'm not aware of any IBM published tool to do that.

Tony H.

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Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 16:12, Tony Thigpen  wrote:

> FYI, I do have a copy of GA23-0059-07 in PDF format that I created from
> the BOO sometime in the past. If anyone wants a copy.
>

How did you convert it? I'm not aware of any IBM published tool to do that.

Tony H.

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Re: z/OS,Version 2 Release 4,Language Environment,Programming Reference - ceea300_v2r4.pdf

2020-09-29 Thread Susan Shumway
I pointed the content developer for this information to this discussion 
in case any changes are needed. Thanks!


-Sue Shumway

On 9/29/2020 9:29 AM, Hayim Sokolsky wrote:

Switzerland:French, German, Italian, and Romansh.


On Sep 29, 2020, at 09:24, R.S.  wrote:

W dniu 29.09.2020 o 00:54, Robert Prins pisze:

Just had a look at 
https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r4sa380683/$file/ceea300_v2r4.pdf?OpenElement&xpdflink
 to find a country code that gives me dates in ISO8601 format (why isn't there a simple 
"LANGUAGE(my-country(ISO))" option to use a specific currency, but ISO8601 
dates/times? RFE?),

and

I was flabbergasted to see that (at least in this PDF) Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, 
Cyprus, Slovakia are still using currencies that no longer exist, and that 
Montenegro & Serbia (and probably a few more countries) don't even seem to 
exists.

Robert


First question: I guess ISO would be ambigous, as there are many ISO standards 
which may be considered here.

BTW: despite of errors/outdated informations - things may be more complicated than 
"one country, one answer". Serbia have two very different code pages - one for 
cyrillic, one latin.
In Poland we have latin only, but wide set of codepages: CP 870 for EBCDIC, 
CP852 for PCDOS, CP1250 for Windows, ISO8850-2 for Unix and Internet-related 
things. That are in wide use today, however we had much more, like Mazovia, 
PESEL, DHN, Świerk, Kajkowski, etc.
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Of course there is no more Czechoslovakia, and Slovakia has Euro currency (and 
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And there are of course countries have more than one language. For example 
Switzerland has four languages (who know what is the fourth one?), but US has 
no official language. ;-)
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Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread Susan Shumway

Hi all,

First, addressing the links on the Publications Center page:
- None of the links to online versions of the BOO publications will work 
because the IBM-served BookManager content site was taken down years 
ago. (This is not an invitation to open back up the complaint department 
for that action!) That's unfortunate that the dead "Read" links remain 
to confuse folks - sorry about that.
- "Download HTTP" and "Download Director" are just two different methods 
for downloading the same file (the .boo).


As for a PDF of the 3270 Data Stream Program Reference (GA23-0059-07), 
I'm not finding it on any official IBM site. That doesn't mean that it 
doesn't exist, though - I'll keep poking around and will report back if 
I find it.


-Sue Shumway

On 9/29/2020 9:49 AM, Styles, Andy , ITS zPlatform Services wrote:

Classification: Limited

There appears to be a GA23-0059-7 here:

  http://www.ruelgnoj.co.uk/3270/3270.pdf

Whether that's Tony's one, I don't know, but it looks like it came from 
Bookmanager - I can't access it from my work laptop, but it looks okay on my 
phone.

Andy Styles
z/Series System Programmer

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Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:52:38 +0100, Sean Gleann  wrote:

>I'm currently investigating the use of DFDSS DUMP PATH to secure data held
>in UNIX files and folders.
>...
>"DFSMSdss does not provide wildcard support when processing UNIX files."
>...
>I can see a possible method of including a massaged version of 'ls' output
>in the INCLUDE parameter, but I don't see this as a particularly workable
>solution.
>
The better utility for that is "find" rather than "ls".  "find" supports 
wildcards
and boolean expressions; "ls" supports neither.  The massaging would need
to protect special characters with a scheme supported by DFSMSdss.
Filenames containing NL are a particular challenge.

ALas, z/OS's "find" does not support the precious "-print0" extension.

What you're asking is akin to asking DFSMSdss to select individual PDS members.
 
>Also, with a DUMP of data comes the requirement to be able to RESTORE it to
>- possibly - a different WORKINGDIRECTORY, but I haven't got that far yet.
>
Use 'pax".  Mr. Natural sez, Use the right tool for the job.

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Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
Classification: Limited

There appears to be a GA23-0059-7 here:

 http://www.ruelgnoj.co.uk/3270/3270.pdf

Whether that's Tony's one, I don't know, but it looks like it came from 
Bookmanager - I can't access it from my work laptop, but it looks okay on my 
phone. 

Andy Styles
z/Series System Programmer

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Yeah, but it's not the latest one.

On 2020-09-29 09:05, Wendell Lovewell wrote:
> GA23-0059-4 is already on Bitsavers:
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> vers.trailing-edge.com%2Fpdf%2Fibm%2F3270%2FGA23-0059-4_3270_Data_Stre
> am_Programmers_Reference_Dec88.pdf&data=02%7C01%7CAndy.Styles%40Ll
> oydsBanking.com%7Ce215590750d64a0e82bd08d86479c1cd%7C3ded2960214a46ff8
> cf4611f125e2398%7C0%7C0%7C637369821388915261&sdata=9uSdmXPpETVZncU
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EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 10399850.

Scottish Widows Schroder Personal Wealth Limited. Registered Office: 25 Gresham 
Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 11722983.

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Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread R.S.

W dniu 29.09.2020 o 05:33, Lizette Koehler pisze:

You need to be careful about copyrights and uploading to something other than 
an IBM approved site.

Just saying.


Formally, yes. Really, not so.
I think all or vast majority of bitsavers content is copyrighted 
material. But it is kind of abandonware - copyrighted thing which 
provide no profit, no chance for profit and the owner is:

a) no longer interested about this thing
b) the owner disappeared
c) it is not clear who is the owner today.
Note, bitsavers contain a lot of material which were never ever been 
available to public, especially those printed manuals usually were 
available to customers and sometime manuals were paid.


Here we have something which is copyrighted, but still available to anyone.

BTW: I wish IBM would give all the old stuff previously available on 
their pages to some organization like wikipedia, bitsavers or other, or 
all of them.
We would still have access to bookreader books regarding OS/390 or MVS, 
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Re: z/OS,Version 2 Release 4,Language Environment,Programming Reference - ceea300_v2r4.pdf

2020-09-29 Thread Hayim Sokolsky
Switzerland:French, German, Italian, and Romansh. 

> On Sep 29, 2020, at 09:24, R.S.  wrote:
> 
> W dniu 29.09.2020 o 00:54, Robert Prins pisze:
>> Just had a look at 
>> https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r4sa380683/$file/ceea300_v2r4.pdf?OpenElement&xpdflink
>>  to find a country code that gives me dates in ISO8601 format (why isn't 
>> there a simple "LANGUAGE(my-country(ISO))" option to use a specific 
>> currency, but ISO8601 dates/times? RFE?),
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> I was flabbergasted to see that (at least in this PDF) Lithuania, Latvia, 
>> Estonia, Cyprus, Slovakia are still using currencies that no longer exist, 
>> and that Montenegro & Serbia (and probably a few more countries) don't even 
>> seem to exists.
>> 
>> Robert
> 
> First question: I guess ISO would be ambigous, as there are many ISO 
> standards which may be considered here.
> 
> BTW: despite of errors/outdated informations - things may be more complicated 
> than "one country, one answer". Serbia have two very different code pages - 
> one for cyrillic, one latin.
> In Poland we have latin only, but wide set of codepages: CP 870 for EBCDIC, 
> CP852 for PCDOS, CP1250 for Windows, ISO8850-2 for Unix and Internet-related 
> things. That are in wide use today, however we had much more, like Mazovia, 
> PESEL, DHN, Świerk, Kajkowski, etc.
> Note, the table does not mention only current values, but also some 
> historical ones - like USSR and ruble, two german countries, Czechoslovakia, 
> etc.
> Of course there is no more Czechoslovakia, and Slovakia has Euro currency 
> (and my bank was first which finished conversion from former corona).
> And there are of course countries have more than one language. For example 
> Switzerland has four languages (who know what is the fourth one?), but US has 
> no official language. ;-)
> And or course there are timezones - US have many timezones, but even 
> countries within same, single timezone may have different regulations related 
> to DST.
> BTW: as far as I know UE decided to get rid of DST, but each country has to 
> decide which time they will use.
> A lot of curiosities.
> 
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Re: z/OS,Version 2 Release 4,Language Environment,Programming Reference - ceea300_v2r4.pdf

2020-09-29 Thread R.S.

W dniu 29.09.2020 o 00:54, Robert Prins pisze:
Just had a look at 
https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r4sa380683/$file/ceea300_v2r4.pdf?OpenElement&xpdflink 
to find a country code that gives me dates in ISO8601 format (why 
isn't there a simple "LANGUAGE(my-country(ISO))" option to use a 
specific currency, but ISO8601 dates/times? RFE?),


and

I was flabbergasted to see that (at least in this PDF) Lithuania, 
Latvia, Estonia, Cyprus, Slovakia are still using currencies that no 
longer exist, and that Montenegro & Serbia (and probably a few more 
countries) don't even seem to exists.


Robert


First question: I guess ISO would be ambigous, as there are many ISO 
standards which may be considered here.


BTW: despite of errors/outdated informations - things may be more 
complicated than "one country, one answer". Serbia have two very 
different code pages - one for cyrillic, one latin.
In Poland we have latin only, but wide set of codepages: CP 870 for 
EBCDIC, CP852 for PCDOS, CP1250 for Windows, ISO8850-2 for Unix and 
Internet-related things. That are in wide use today, however we had much 
more, like Mazovia, PESEL, DHN, Świerk, Kajkowski, etc.
Note, the table does not mention only current values, but also some 
historical ones - like USSR and ruble, two german countries, 
Czechoslovakia, etc.
Of course there is no more Czechoslovakia, and Slovakia has Euro 
currency (and my bank was first which finished conversion from former 
corona).
And there are of course countries have more than one language. For 
example Switzerland has four languages (who know what is the fourth 
one?), but US has no official language. ;-)
And or course there are timezones - US have many timezones, but even 
countries within same, single timezone may have different regulations 
related to DST.
BTW: as far as I know UE decided to get rid of DST, but each country has 
to decide which time they will use.

A lot of curiosities.


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Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread David Spiegel

Yeah, but it's not the latest one.

On 2020-09-29 09:05, Wendell Lovewell wrote:

GA23-0059-4 is already on Bitsavers:
https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbitsavers.trailing-edge.com%2Fpdf%2Fibm%2F3270%2FGA23-0059-4_3270_Data_Stream_Programmers_Reference_Dec88.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbb7567d9d7814551292208d8647855be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637369815298845667&sdata=MJHsTfV%2BqFlplSapgWpmCm11qEUSt3uRQHCTep3GxPY%3D&reserved=0

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Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
My original message mentioned that and asked, as does the subject, for a link 
to the current edition, which is -7 or later.


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Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread Wendell Lovewell
GA23-0059-4 is already on Bitsavers:
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/3270/GA23-0059-4_3270_Data_Stream_Programmers_Reference_Dec88.pdf

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NVAS MVS 2.1 help

2020-09-29 Thread Peter
Hello Group

Is anyone still using NVAS 2.1 ? We have got a system where NVAS is not
being used for long and I want make it work. As per the manual PUBUSER can
logon without a password but it doesn't do that way.

Is there a way to disable logon exit using AMASZAP and allow PUBUSER to
logon without a password ?

How do we enable RACF interface with NVAS so that any user can login using
Mainframe password ?

Any pointers are much appreciated

Peter

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Re: FTPS Handshake Error

2020-09-29 Thread Mike Wawiorko
You can look up RC 428 in the System SSL return codes manual.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.gska100/id428.htm

Return codes in the 5xxx range are from AT-TLS and in the Comms Server manuals.

System SSL 428 means that the owner of the certificate does not have access to 
the private key.
Make sure the keyring and certificate have the correct owner userid.
Check the keyring has the expected certificate and the CA(s) that signed it.

You may or may not need a client certificate.

If you have configured the FTP server to authenticate by mapping the client 
certificate to a userid you do need the client certificate. This is mutual 
authentication.

If you are not using the client certificate for user authentication it is not 
needed.

Mike Wawiorko   

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Listers:
I am a bit stumped with this syslog error message at the server side of an ftps 
connection:
EZD1285I TTLS Data  CONNID: 06D2A8A0 RECV CIPHER 160303008F

EZD1285I TTLS Data  CONNID: 06D2A8A0 RECV CIPHER
018B03035F71E9D266E9EBC723DE2DE3C4FC1E352E22A9E403C2CEADC2B74B5C158F8A60
EZD1285I TTLS Data  CONNID: 06D2A8A0 SEND CIPHER 15030300020250

EZD1284I TTLS Flow  GRPID: 0006 ENVID: 001D CONNID: 06D2A8A0  *RC:
 428* Call GSK_SECURE_SOCKET_INIT - 005011424E50 EZD1283I TTLS Event GRPID: 
0006 ENVID: 001D CONNID: 06D2A8A0  *RC:
 428* Initial Handshake  005011421A1

We are doing a FTPS from one client lpar to a server lpar.
We coded our policy agent rules and ftp client/server parameters.
We created a CA certificate and a user certificate signed by the CA.
The ftps stc owner is the same owner of the keyring.
The lpars share the same Top Secret environment so both lpars see the same 
keyring.

In the policy agent rules do we have to specify the certificate labels or will 
it just use the DEFAULT certificate specified in the keyring?

We have debugged many errors but this one has proven a challenge for us.

Any documentation or policy agent samples that you can lead me to will be 
appreciated.

Thank you.
Roberto

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Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-29 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
It appears that you have to specify the paths as separate include
statements.

I would use a USS REXX script using readdir and build the include
statements.

I've done something similar to chase file names down from a starting
directory to build a second shell script for a bunch of sed commands.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 5:53 PM Sean Gleann  wrote:

> I'm currently investigating the use of DFDSS DUMP PATH to secure data held
> in UNIX files and folders.
>
> As far as I can see, I have to specify the WORKINGDIRECTORY to establish
> the starting point for the DUMP operation, then use INCLUDE to _explicitly_
> specify the files I want. The available documentation states:
> "DFSMSdss does not provide wildcard support when processing UNIX files."
> which, for my purposes, is a complete show-stopper.
>
> The subject UNIX folder contain many hundreds, perhaps thousands, of
> individual files and sub-folders (and sub-sub-folders, etc). What I want to
> do is to dump the complete contents of a UNIX folder in a way analogous to
> dumping all z/OS files with a common set of HLQs.
>
> I can see a possible method of including a massaged version of 'ls' output
> in the INCLUDE parameter, but I don't see this as a particularly workable
> solution.
>
> Am I reading things wrongly and missing a vital point here? Does anyone
> know if wildcard support is something that will be made available in the
> future?
>
> Also, with a DUMP of data comes the requirement to be able to RESTORE it to
> - possibly - a different WORKINGDIRECTORY, but I haven't got that far yet.
>
> Regards
> Sean
>
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DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-29 Thread Sean Gleann
I'm currently investigating the use of DFDSS DUMP PATH to secure data held
in UNIX files and folders.

As far as I can see, I have to specify the WORKINGDIRECTORY to establish
the starting point for the DUMP operation, then use INCLUDE to _explicitly_
specify the files I want. The available documentation states:
"DFSMSdss does not provide wildcard support when processing UNIX files."
which, for my purposes, is a complete show-stopper.

The subject UNIX folder contain many hundreds, perhaps thousands, of
individual files and sub-folders (and sub-sub-folders, etc). What I want to
do is to dump the complete contents of a UNIX folder in a way analogous to
dumping all z/OS files with a common set of HLQs.

I can see a possible method of including a massaged version of 'ls' output
in the INCLUDE parameter, but I don't see this as a particularly workable
solution.

Am I reading things wrongly and missing a vital point here? Does anyone
know if wildcard support is something that will be made available in the
future?

Also, with a DUMP of data comes the requirement to be able to RESTORE it to
- possibly - a different WORKINGDIRECTORY, but I haven't got that far yet.

Regards
Sean

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