Re: COBOL LIB

2020-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:35:02 -0800, Charles Mills  wrote:

>It is whatever your installation called it!
>
>Which COBOL?
>
>Many installations use something like IGY or IGY630 or IGY.V630 or IGY.V6R3M0 
>as an HLQ. You could look for those in ISPF 3.4.
> 
That depends on the administrators' having configured the panel correctly.

Submit an ISPF background compile and browse the submitted JCL with SDSF SJ?

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Re: COBOL LIB

2020-12-18 Thread Tony Thigpen
No, he does not keep talking about VSE. He keeps saying that his 
experience is with VSE and he it trying to understand z/OS because of a 
job change. He is admitting that while he is a very knowledgeable person 
with operating systems, he is on a new platform and needs guidance or 
simply a "point me in the right direction' reply.


Tony Thigpen

Joe Monk wrote on 12/18/20 10:43 AM:

Well he keeps talking about VSE.

Joe

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 9:16 AM Seymour J Metz  wrote:


He's asking about a z/OS environment, so there is no CIL or MSHP, just as
there is no DCSS or VMSES/E (VMsespool?). He didn't give a context for his
RC 20 in ISPF, but I suspect that he's trying to use a panel for a product
that is not installed. We never did hear whether they are licensed for a
COBOL compiler.


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of Joe Monk [joemon...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 5:38 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COBOL LIB

VSE - MSHP = MISHAP :)

The cobol compiler should be in the core image library. If you're on z/vse
it will be part of LE (language environment)

See page 195 ... https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247436.pdf

Joe

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 7:39 PM CarlosM Martinez 
wrote:


I did use the ISPF panels in TSO it keeps terminating with rc code 20.
PS I knew someone was going to come up with the "SLEZTRIVE thing"
Anyway in VSE we have MSHP I guess I will do a SMP/E listing and see if
and where it lives.

Thank you all,

Carlos
SUNY DOWNSTATE MED CENTER

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Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:14 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COBOL LIB

Assuming that you are licensed for the relevant COBOL compiler, it's not
difficult to do the compiles with ISPF panels, either in foreground or by
submitting batch jobs.


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of CarlosM Martinez [carl...@solracz.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:55 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COBOL LIB

YES,
  we are a CICS shop and I have been here for 2 yrs. And have never seen a
cobol compile. Just EASYTRIEV.
We have a new vendor that wants to compile Cobol . I have set up REXX

full

screen mods to do this in VSE via CMS. But here all is in TSO.

Thank you,
Carlos Martinez
SUNY Downstate Med. Center

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Steve Beaver
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:16 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COBOL LIB

Carlos

Are you a CICS shop?

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 17, 2020, at 16:40, Farley, Peter x23353 <

031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:


Carlos,

AFAIK, Easytrieve scripts generate actual object code, not COBOL code,

for at least the versions of which I am aware (versions 4.x, 5.x and 6.x

in

my experience all generate object code).


HTH

Peter

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On

Behalf Of CarlosM Martinez

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COBOL LIB

EXTERNAL EMAIL

Well I am a newbie in Z/OS my expertise is in VSE. But... everything

here is hold on to your hat... EASYTRIEVE. I have not look at a complete
Easytrieve compile but doesn't it produce cobol code?

We get our CICS online System compiled and shipped from a vendor and

just load it to a loadlib. I looked on 3.4 of TSO for IGY and found NONE.


Thank you all.

Carlos Martinez
SUNY Downstate.

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On Behalf Of Steve Beaver

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:07 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COBOL LIB

Do you even have any compiler procs?

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 17, 2020, at 16:02, Jousma, David <

01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:


COBOL compiler doesn't come with z/os.  It is separately purchased

and

licensed,  so since you are asking, you may not have it.


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Subject: COBOL LIB

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Hello all,
Does anyone know what library the COBOL compiler is in Z/OS 1.0 ?
SYS1.???

Thank you
Carlos Martinez
SUNY Downstate Med. Center

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Re: COBOL LIB

2020-12-18 Thread CarlosM Martinez
Well. 
Since we receive object mods for our CICS online system. I do not think we are 
licensed for Cobol. Which explains the RC=20 from the TSO option 4, Z/OS COBOL 
panels. 
Our programmers use EASYTRIEVE for report writing and receive object code for 
our CICS COBOL Command level online applications. 
Thank you all for your response. 

Carlos Martinez 
SUNY Downstate Med. Center 

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Of Seymour J Metz
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 10:13 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COBOL LIB

He's asking about a z/OS environment, so there is no CIL or MSHP, just as there 
is no DCSS or VMSES/E (VMsespool?). He didn't give a context for his RC 20 in 
ISPF, but I suspect that he's trying to use a panel for a product that is not 
installed. We never did hear whether they are licensed for a COBOL compiler.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joe 
Monk [joemon...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 5:38 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COBOL LIB

VSE - MSHP = MISHAP :)

The cobol compiler should be in the core image library. If you're on z/vse
it will be part of LE (language environment)

See page 195 ... https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247436.pdf

Joe

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 7:39 PM CarlosM Martinez 
wrote:

> I did use the ISPF panels in TSO it keeps terminating with rc code 20.
> PS I knew someone was going to come up with the "SLEZTRIVE thing"
> Anyway in VSE we have MSHP I guess I will do a SMP/E listing and see if
> and where it lives.
>
> Thank you all,
>
> Carlos
> SUNY DOWNSTATE MED CENTER
>
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:14 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
>
> Assuming that you are licensed for the relevant COBOL compiler, it's not
> difficult to do the compiles with ISPF panels, either in foreground or by
> submitting batch jobs.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> of CarlosM Martinez [carl...@solracz.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:55 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
>
> YES,
>  we are a CICS shop and I have been here for 2 yrs. And have never seen a
> cobol compile. Just EASYTRIEV.
> We have a new vendor that wants to compile Cobol . I have set up REXX full
> screen mods to do this in VSE via CMS. But here all is in TSO.
>
> Thank you,
> Carlos Martinez
> SUNY Downstate Med. Center
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:16 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
>
> Carlos
>
> Are you a CICS shop?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 17, 2020, at 16:40, Farley, Peter x23353 <
> 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Carlos,
> >
> > AFAIK, Easytrieve scripts generate actual object code, not COBOL code,
> for at least the versions of which I am aware (versions 4.x, 5.x and 6.x in
> my experience all generate object code).
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> Behalf Of CarlosM Martinez
> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:27 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
> >
> > EXTERNAL EMAIL
> >
> > Well I am a newbie in Z/OS my expertise is in VSE. But... everything
> here is hold on to your hat... EASYTRIEVE. I have not look at a complete
> Easytrieve compile but doesn't it produce cobol code?
> > We get our CICS online System compiled and shipped from a vendor and
> just load it to a loadlib. I looked on 3.4 of TSO for IGY and found NONE.
> >
> > Thank you all.
> >
> > Carlos Martinez
> > SUNY Downstate.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:07 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
> >
> > Do you even have any compiler procs?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 17, 2020, at 16:02, Jousma, David <
> 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> COBOL compiler doesn't come with z/os.  It is separately purchased and
> licensed,  so since you are asking, you may not have it.
> >> 
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> >> behalf of CarlosM Martinez 
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 4:12:28 PM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> >> Subject: COBOL LIB
> >>
> >> **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL**
> >>
> >> **DO NOT ope

Re: COBOL LIB

2020-12-18 Thread Joe Monk
Well he keeps talking about VSE.

Joe

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 9:16 AM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> He's asking about a z/OS environment, so there is no CIL or MSHP, just as
> there is no DCSS or VMSES/E (VMsespool?). He didn't give a context for his
> RC 20 in ISPF, but I suspect that he's trying to use a panel for a product
> that is not installed. We never did hear whether they are licensed for a
> COBOL compiler.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> of Joe Monk [joemon...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 5:38 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
>
> VSE - MSHP = MISHAP :)
>
> The cobol compiler should be in the core image library. If you're on z/vse
> it will be part of LE (language environment)
>
> See page 195 ... https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247436.pdf
>
> Joe
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 7:39 PM CarlosM Martinez 
> wrote:
>
> > I did use the ISPF panels in TSO it keeps terminating with rc code 20.
> > PS I knew someone was going to come up with the "SLEZTRIVE thing"
> > Anyway in VSE we have MSHP I guess I will do a SMP/E listing and see if
> > and where it lives.
> >
> > Thank you all,
> >
> > Carlos
> > SUNY DOWNSTATE MED CENTER
> >
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:14 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
> >
> > Assuming that you are licensed for the relevant COBOL compiler, it's not
> > difficult to do the compiles with ISPF panels, either in foreground or by
> > submitting batch jobs.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> >
> > 
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> > of CarlosM Martinez [carl...@solracz.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:55 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
> >
> > YES,
> >  we are a CICS shop and I have been here for 2 yrs. And have never seen a
> > cobol compile. Just EASYTRIEV.
> > We have a new vendor that wants to compile Cobol . I have set up REXX
> full
> > screen mods to do this in VSE via CMS. But here all is in TSO.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Carlos Martinez
> > SUNY Downstate Med. Center
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:16 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> > Are you a CICS shop?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Dec 17, 2020, at 16:40, Farley, Peter x23353 <
> > 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > Carlos,
> > >
> > > AFAIK, Easytrieve scripts generate actual object code, not COBOL code,
> > for at least the versions of which I am aware (versions 4.x, 5.x and 6.x
> in
> > my experience all generate object code).
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> > Behalf Of CarlosM Martinez
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:27 PM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
> > >
> > > EXTERNAL EMAIL
> > >
> > > Well I am a newbie in Z/OS my expertise is in VSE. But... everything
> > here is hold on to your hat... EASYTRIEVE. I have not look at a complete
> > Easytrieve compile but doesn't it produce cobol code?
> > > We get our CICS online System compiled and shipped from a vendor and
> > just load it to a loadlib. I looked on 3.4 of TSO for IGY and found NONE.
> > >
> > > Thank you all.
> > >
> > > Carlos Martinez
> > > SUNY Downstate.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:07 PM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
> > >
> > > Do you even have any compiler procs?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Dec 17, 2020, at 16:02, Jousma, David <
> > 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> COBOL compiler doesn't come with z/os.  It is separately purchased
> and
> > licensed,  so since you are asking, you may not have it.
> > >> 
> > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> > >> behalf of CarlosM Martinez 
> > >> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 4:12:28 PM
> > >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> > >> Subject: COBOL LIB
> > >>
> > >> **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL**
> > >>
> > >> **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or
> > >> unexpected emails**
> > >>
> > >> Hello all,
> > >> Does anyone know what library the COBOL compiler is in Z/OS 1.0 ?
> > >> SYS1.???
> > >>
> > >> Thank you
> > >> Car

Re: COBOL LIB

2020-12-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
He's asking about a z/OS environment, so there is no CIL or MSHP, just as there 
is no DCSS or VMSES/E (VMsespool?). He didn't give a context for his RC 20 in 
ISPF, but I suspect that he's trying to use a panel for a product that is not 
installed. We never did hear whether they are licensed for a COBOL compiler.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joe 
Monk [joemon...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 5:38 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COBOL LIB

VSE - MSHP = MISHAP :)

The cobol compiler should be in the core image library. If you're on z/vse
it will be part of LE (language environment)

See page 195 ... https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247436.pdf

Joe

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 7:39 PM CarlosM Martinez 
wrote:

> I did use the ISPF panels in TSO it keeps terminating with rc code 20.
> PS I knew someone was going to come up with the "SLEZTRIVE thing"
> Anyway in VSE we have MSHP I guess I will do a SMP/E listing and see if
> and where it lives.
>
> Thank you all,
>
> Carlos
> SUNY DOWNSTATE MED CENTER
>
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:14 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
>
> Assuming that you are licensed for the relevant COBOL compiler, it's not
> difficult to do the compiles with ISPF panels, either in foreground or by
> submitting batch jobs.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> of CarlosM Martinez [carl...@solracz.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:55 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
>
> YES,
>  we are a CICS shop and I have been here for 2 yrs. And have never seen a
> cobol compile. Just EASYTRIEV.
> We have a new vendor that wants to compile Cobol . I have set up REXX full
> screen mods to do this in VSE via CMS. But here all is in TSO.
>
> Thank you,
> Carlos Martinez
> SUNY Downstate Med. Center
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:16 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
>
> Carlos
>
> Are you a CICS shop?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 17, 2020, at 16:40, Farley, Peter x23353 <
> 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Carlos,
> >
> > AFAIK, Easytrieve scripts generate actual object code, not COBOL code,
> for at least the versions of which I am aware (versions 4.x, 5.x and 6.x in
> my experience all generate object code).
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> Behalf Of CarlosM Martinez
> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:27 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
> >
> > EXTERNAL EMAIL
> >
> > Well I am a newbie in Z/OS my expertise is in VSE. But... everything
> here is hold on to your hat... EASYTRIEVE. I have not look at a complete
> Easytrieve compile but doesn't it produce cobol code?
> > We get our CICS online System compiled and shipped from a vendor and
> just load it to a loadlib. I looked on 3.4 of TSO for IGY and found NONE.
> >
> > Thank you all.
> >
> > Carlos Martinez
> > SUNY Downstate.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:07 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
> >
> > Do you even have any compiler procs?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 17, 2020, at 16:02, Jousma, David <
> 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> COBOL compiler doesn't come with z/os.  It is separately purchased and
> licensed,  so since you are asking, you may not have it.
> >> 
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> >> behalf of CarlosM Martinez 
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 4:12:28 PM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> >> Subject: COBOL LIB
> >>
> >> **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL**
> >>
> >> **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or
> >> unexpected emails**
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >> Does anyone know what library the COBOL compiler is in Z/OS 1.0 ?
> >> SYS1.???
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >> Carlos Martinez
> >> SUNY Downstate Med. Center
> >>
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Re: COBOL LIB

2020-12-18 Thread Joel C. Ewing
And unless things have changed drastically, the COBOL compiler license
for z/OS involves a significant charge.  Whoever in the company handles
software invoices from IBM should be well aware whether or not you have
a license (and of course IBM knows and can tell your company what
licenses they currently have).

The COBOL runtime environment is handled by LE (Language Environment),
which supports execution of compiled programs from multiple languages
and is included in the z/OS base.  The actual language Compilers for
z/OS (COBOL, PL/I, C, FORTRAN) are not a part of the z/OS base -- each
has a separate license and added cost, and the charges tend to be high
enough that you wouldn't have them around for casual use or to play
with, but only if they were actively required to support the business.
    Joel C Ewing

On 12/17/20 7:00 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
> If you don't have COBOL developers in house it seems unlikely you would have 
> purchased the COBOL compiler.
> Can't the vendor supply you with binary executables that they have compiled?
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
> CarlosM Martinez 
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:57 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
>
> Just looking for the BATCH compiler for the VENDOR... If we have it.
> ...


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Re: Using HSM Transition to clear MOD-3 devices

2020-12-18 Thread Chuck Kreiter
Thanks.  I got the ticket resolved.  If the DB2 library is not in the linklist, 
then a steplib is needed in the HSM procs.  Per the ticket, the docs will be 
updated.  

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Subject: Re: Using HSM Transition to clear MOD-3 devices

Hi Chuck, We have clients who regularly use this function for what you plan on 
doing.  I'll reach out to the individual who owns the ticket and make sure that 
it makes progress.  Thanks.

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Re: COBOL LIB

2020-12-18 Thread Joe Monk
VSE - MSHP = MISHAP :)

The cobol compiler should be in the core image library. If you're on z/vse
it will be part of LE (language environment)

See page 195 ... https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247436.pdf

Joe

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 7:39 PM CarlosM Martinez 
wrote:

> I did use the ISPF panels in TSO it keeps terminating with rc code 20.
> PS I knew someone was going to come up with the "SLEZTRIVE thing"
> Anyway in VSE we have MSHP I guess I will do a SMP/E listing and see if
> and where it lives.
>
> Thank you all,
>
> Carlos
> SUNY DOWNSTATE MED CENTER
>
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:14 PM
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> Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
>
> Assuming that you are licensed for the relevant COBOL compiler, it's not
> difficult to do the compiles with ISPF panels, either in foreground or by
> submitting batch jobs.
>
>
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> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> of CarlosM Martinez [carl...@solracz.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:55 PM
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>
> YES,
>  we are a CICS shop and I have been here for 2 yrs. And have never seen a
> cobol compile. Just EASYTRIEV.
> We have a new vendor that wants to compile Cobol . I have set up REXX full
> screen mods to do this in VSE via CMS. But here all is in TSO.
>
> Thank you,
> Carlos Martinez
> SUNY Downstate Med. Center
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:16 PM
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>
> Carlos
>
> Are you a CICS shop?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 17, 2020, at 16:40, Farley, Peter x23353 <
> 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Carlos,
> >
> > AFAIK, Easytrieve scripts generate actual object code, not COBOL code,
> for at least the versions of which I am aware (versions 4.x, 5.x and 6.x in
> my experience all generate object code).
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> Behalf Of CarlosM Martinez
> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:27 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
> >
> > EXTERNAL EMAIL
> >
> > Well I am a newbie in Z/OS my expertise is in VSE. But... everything
> here is hold on to your hat... EASYTRIEVE. I have not look at a complete
> Easytrieve compile but doesn't it produce cobol code?
> > We get our CICS online System compiled and shipped from a vendor and
> just load it to a loadlib. I looked on 3.4 of TSO for IGY and found NONE.
> >
> > Thank you all.
> >
> > Carlos Martinez
> > SUNY Downstate.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:07 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: COBOL LIB
> >
> > Do you even have any compiler procs?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 17, 2020, at 16:02, Jousma, David <
> 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> COBOL compiler doesn't come with z/os.  It is separately purchased and
> licensed,  so since you are asking, you may not have it.
> >> 
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> >> behalf of CarlosM Martinez 
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> >> Subject: COBOL LIB
> >>
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> >> Hello all,
> >> Does anyone know what library the COBOL compiler is in Z/OS 1.0 ?
> >> SYS1.???
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >> Carlos Martinez
> >> SUNY Downstate Med. Center
> >>
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