Re: FTP-SSL from z/OS client to Linux

2021-03-02 Thread Steve Pryor
I have to remember to look at the IBM-MAIN list rather than the archives. Thanks, everybody, for your help. I'm glad to have another means of tracing for the (shudder) next time around. Steve Steve Pryor DTS Software, LLC st...@dtssoftware.com

Re: FTP-SSL from z/OS client to Linux

2021-03-02 Thread Steve Pryor
Well, after considerable struggle involving setting up a completely new FTP server and experimenting with virtually every possible setting on both sides, it seems that this can occur if the TLS level used by the z/OS client isn't supported by the Linux ProFTPD server. Some settings rejiggering

IFAUSAGE REQUEST=FUNCTIONBEGIN nesting

2021-03-02 Thread John Szura
Can REQUEST=FUNCTIONBEGINs be nested?  I.e. follow a REQUEST=FUNCTIONBEGIN with another REQUEST=FUNCTIONBEGIN without an intervening REQUEST=FUNCTIONEND to collect data on sub-functions?  Can I use the PRODQUAL= to delineate the sub-function? j -- John Szura Lead Mainframe Product Developer

Re: getting a report from JES2 to my pc without TCP/IP or NJE.

2021-03-02 Thread Ramsey Hallman
Tony, I assume when you say "mini z/OS V2R1 system" that includes SDSF. If yes, allocate a sysout type dataset. Mine is userid.print.out (org=po, recfm-fb, lrecl 133, blksize-13300 (or 26600, or ...)). Select your job in JES, either an individual output segment or the entire job. On the

Re: [External] getting a report from JES2 to my pc without TCP/IP or NJE.

2021-03-02 Thread Tony Thigpen
thanks. I got it down. Tony Thigpen Pommier, Rex wrote on 3/2/21 4:08 PM: SDSF to get it to a flat file then IND$FILE to transfer it? AFAIK, IND$FILE can't handle spool data directly. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [External] getting a report from JES2 to my pc without TCP/IP or NJE.

2021-03-02 Thread Pommier, Rex
SDSF to get it to a flat file then IND$FILE to transfer it? AFAIK, IND$FILE can't handle spool data directly. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 3:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] getting

getting a report from JES2 to my pc without TCP/IP or NJE.

2021-03-02 Thread Tony Thigpen
I have a mini-z/OS 2.1 system that currently has no TCP/IP or other connection that I could use to transfer reports. I just have TN3270 access via an ICC. I need to get a report out of JES2. Is there a way using an IND$FILE type transfer to get the report down to the PC? Tony Thigpen

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
My recommendation was specifically for z/OS; I don't know how z/VSE handles multiple READs, and I would expect most CMS I/O to be native CMS, BFS or SFS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
> In theory, using EXCP, you could read using CCWs with data chaining > that would read multiple blocks in one I/O operation and concatenate them > into one data area. Only if you used Read Multiple CKD; given that SAM-E is bundled into z/OS, I'm not convinced that you'd get a noticeable

Re: TSO RECEIVE and System Determined Blksize - New RFE

2021-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
I believe that the DCB information specified by the program should take precedent. However, I also believe that a utility should not override the block size of an existing dataset. When dataset has an existing blocksize and the DD or DYNALLOC has a different blocksize, then I believe that OPEN

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
> Where's QPAM that we've needed forever? In TSS/360. I guess that it's too recent to copy. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Re: TSO RECEIVE and System Determined Blksize - New RFE

2021-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
I would describe changing the block size of an existing dataset to a hard wired value as "Broken As Designed (BAD)". -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of

Re: TSO RECEIVE and System Determined Blksize - New RFE

2021-03-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 19:10:49 +0100, Peter Sylvester wrote: > >A little example from few days ago. Files are 30 years old. > >A pds with blksize 6160 that already had members (longer than a block) > It is a dreadful design blunder (which could yet be repaired) that the OS allows: o Decreasing the

Re: TSO RECEIVE and System Determined Blksize - New RFE

2021-03-02 Thread Peter Sylvester
Hi A little example from few days ago. Files are 30 years old. A pds with blksize 6160 that already had members (longer than a block) 1st try:     RECEIVE INDATASET(whatever) OUTDATASET(pds(member))   -> oops really, not possible to allocate a member. resulting in an abend? 2nd try:    

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 11:30:09 -0600, Walt Farrell wrote: > >I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but for input files, the blocksize is >determined by the application that wrote the file. The application that is >reading has no control over it. ... > Except for zFS, for which the access method

Re: TSO RECEIVE and System Determined Blksize - New RFE

2021-03-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 16:02:35 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Why is that an enhancement rather than a bug fix? Isn't SDB supposed to be >active only if BLKSIZE=0? Are you sure that RECEIVE allocated the target with >a nonzero block size? > To what extent do programmers approve the OS's overriding

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 09:12:59 -0500, Joseph Reichman wrote: >I have 100 files concatenated that are normally processed by qsam with a lrecl >31996 and blksize 32000 > >Since processing takes a long time I was looking to speed things up by >specifying a blksize of 32 in the DCBE > >After

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 16:35:46 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >For best performance, NCP should match the number of DECBs you allocate and >you should do a READ on each of them. If real storage is an issue, reduce that >number appropriately. When you hit EOF (EODAD is entered), stop issuing READ. >

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Joseph Reichman
That’s the way I’m doing it Thanks > On Mar 2, 2021, at 11:36 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > For best performance, NCP should match the number of DECBs you allocate and > you should do a READ on each of them. If real storage is an issue, reduce > that number appropriately. When you hit EOF

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
For best performance, NCP should match the number of DECBs you allocate and you should do a READ on each of them. If real storage is an issue, reduce that number appropriately. When you hit EOF (EODAD is entered), stop issuing READ. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: TSO RECEIVE and System Determined Blksize - New RFE

2021-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Why is that an enhancement rather than a bug fix? Isn't SDB supposed to be active only if BLKSIZE=0? Are you sure that RECEIVE allocated the target with a nonzero block size? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: FTP-SSL from z/OS client to Linux

2021-03-02 Thread Wendell Lovewell
Re: "The format is gsktrace > gskfile.trc > gsk.out " John is right--it's just gsktrace gskfile.trc > gsk.out Sorry guys. Wendell -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

TSO RECEIVE and System Determined Blksize - New RFE

2021-03-02 Thread Wendell Lovewell
If anyone has had a problem trying to use System Determined Blocksize with TSO RECEIVE and getting a message IEB1139W like: IEB1139W THE OUTPUT DATA SET BLOCK SIZE IS BEING REDUCED FROM 32720 TO 27920 BYTES. ANY EXISTING PHYSICAL RECORDS LONGER THAN 27920 BYTES ARE FAT BLOCKS AND MAY CAUSE

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Yes, of course! 9 will be blocked to 3x3. However for VSAM it is possible to get 9 blk/trk, as well as 4, 12, 10, 8... Of course it is not the same as SDB for PS file. -- Radoslaw Skorupka (looking for new job) Lodz, Poland W dniu 02.03.2021 o 15:33, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Tue, 2 Mar

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 15:25:33 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >try any RECFM=FB and LRECL between 13349 and 18118 > >Generally it may be 1/3 or other 1/n where n is odd (uneven). > It must be either prime or 1. Has anyone an example for 1/11? (Always assuming Blocked.) >As currently unemployed I

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
try any RECFM=FB and LRECL between 13349 and 18118 Generally it may be 1/3 or other 1/n where n is odd (uneven). As currently unemployed I have no z/OS at hand (OK, I have one due to someone's kindness), when you play with large enough LRECLs you will get SDB at 3 blk/trk, 5 blk/trk, 7 blk/trk

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 08:24:09 -0500, David Spiegel wrote: >Hi Radek, >You said: "... which is usually close to half of the track (sometimes >third...) ..." >When is SDB 1/3 Track? > As a guess, try RECFM=FB,LRECL=16385,BLKSIZE=0. In one astonishing extreme case, SDB is 1/7 track. -- gil

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Radek, You said: "... which is usually close to half of the track (sometimes third...) ..." When is SDB 1/3 Track? Thanks and regards, David On 2021-03-02 07:25, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: General comment about LBI, large blocks and performance: 1. Blocksize for tapes, especially for real

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thanks I look at the IHADCB DSECT comments > On Mar 2, 2021, at 2:18 AM, Michael Stein wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 09:37:57PM -0500, Joseph Reichman wrote: >> For NCP do you have to have a counter of the number of reads you do >> till you do a check > > Yes, but since you need a

Re: Large block interface for VB

2021-03-02 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
General comment about LBI, large blocks and performance: 1. Blocksize for tapes, especially for real tapes is very important for performance. LBI is something to legalize previously used large blocks - I mean blocks larger than officially supported 32760. Even 3490E tapes supported larger

Re: Personal Communications error codes

2021-03-02 Thread Joe Monk
"PROG 764 Load PS STRUCTURED FIELD error: An invalid slot number was specified." https://bit.listserv.vse-l.narkive.com/lAKe0vjB/xprog753-error Joe On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:08 AM Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > W dniu 02.03.2021 o 09:16, Alexander Huemer pisze: > > Hi > > > > I was recently

Re: Personal Communications error codes

2021-03-02 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 02.03.2021 o 09:16, Alexander Huemer pisze: Hi I was recently researching an error condition with IBM Personal Communications, causing 'PROG 764' to be displayed. The only result google spit out was a post on the list, from 10 years ago[1]. The links are all dead now. The post contains

Re: Personal Communications error codes

2021-03-02 Thread Alexander Huemer
Indeed, thank you! -Alex On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 08:28:52AM +, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > The online help has descriptions of all of the messages. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Alexander Huemer > Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:17 AM > To:

Re: Personal Communications error codes

2021-03-02 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
The online help has descriptions of all of the messages. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Alexander Huemer Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Personal Communications error codes Hi I was recently researching

Personal Communications error codes

2021-03-02 Thread Alexander Huemer
Hi I was recently researching an error condition with IBM Personal Communications, causing 'PROG 764' to be displayed. The only result google spit out was a post on the list, from 10 years ago[1]. The links are all dead now. The post contains some good information anyways. Is anybody aware of