Re: Darren seems to be alive but....

2014-01-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 January 2014 16:37, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Why is LISTSERV sending me duplicate message complaints? It's been doing this with/for/to me consistently for a number of weeks. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Spawned Address Space Control in tcsh shell

2014-01-08 Thread Tony Harminc
On 8 January 2014 11:47, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote: I have always felt that the parent-goes-away-leaving-the-child-running scenario was the *ix substitution for what we can do with XCTL in z/OS systems. But (as usual) that might just be my wrong-headed view of

Re: Subject Unicode

2014-01-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 January 2014 20:39, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: We send a data message from a pc, we encrypt it with AES128 , the message is received at the host (z/OS) decrypted then converted from ascii to ebcdic..so I am trying to figure out how to Determine what codepage the pc uses

Re: Subject Unicode

2014-01-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 January 2014 13:28, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Briefly, effective rules for encoding any 'character' recognized as a Unicode one as a 'longer' UTF-8 one do not in general exist. I am most puzzled to read this. UTF-8 is what Unicode calls a transform format, and the conversion

Re: ISGENQ REASON CODE 0404

2014-01-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 January 2014 13:18, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: Linking a program AC(1) does not mean it runs authorized. True. It simply means it can make it's self authorized thru MODESET MODE=SUP. It's a good deal more subtle than that. Linking with AC(1) is only one possible part of

Re: Mainframe culture question - how display a tab character?

2014-01-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 January 2014 20:09, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Passed parms? Is that like the cannibal who passed his friend in the woods? All the wines in this establishment have been personally passed by the proprietor. Tony H.

Re: Subject Unicode

2014-01-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 January 2014 10:21, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: on 01/09/2014 at 09:00 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: There is no general way to convert UNICODE into EBCDIC, There are EBCDIC transforms for Unicode. I'm not sure whether that qulifies as EBCDIC

Re: RUN detaches the TSO TEST/TESTAUTH TCB

2014-01-15 Thread Tony Harminc
On 15 January 2014 13:44, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net wrote: From the doc it seems run detaches the TSO test TCB so PSATOLD is valid correct ? PSATOLD is always valid if you are running under a TCB. If you use a TEST command to look at PSATOLD, you will see the address of a TEST

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 21 January 2014 13:39, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: This is a curiosity question. I am wondering how resistant shops are to even having the Java JDK installed on their system. Not in being resistant to writing application code in Java, but just to having it available.

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 January 2014 08:36, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Now wouldn't that be a kick? An Enterprise COBOL compatible compiler which produced Java byte code. That would likely sell a lot of zAAPs. Don't think it hasn't been seriously considered by more than one party... But as

Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 January 2014 19:34, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to look at that. Not for z/OS use, but for me on my Linux/Intel system. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Graham Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote: http://sourceforge.net/projects/universalcobol/ As it says

Re: P[ro]Ops and Infocenter?

2014-01-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 January 2014 21:00, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Is/are the P[ro]Ops available via Infocenter? Or is Infocenter software only? I'd rather have a web interface to a current copy than several PDFs of varying age on the several desktops I use. I haven't seen it on the

Re: TSO/E Reconnect

2014-01-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 January 2014 21:09, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: A coworker has observed that if he connects to TSO/E via VTAM then disconnects (pulls the plug; not logs out), he can reconnect. If he connects via tn3270 and attempts to reconnect, he gets a new session. What do you mean

Re: IBM sells x86 server business to Lenovo (was Levono)

2014-01-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 January 2014 12:43, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I think IBM's core business is (1) services and (2) software. I don't think IBM has been in the core business since the early 1970s. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: IFL z/VM

2014-01-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 January 2014 12:57, JT jethin...@aol.com wrote: From my manager. Is it possible to run CICS (executing COBOL application code) on an IFL? Short answer: no. The only OSs that IBM supports IPLing on an IFL are Linux and zVM. But even under either of these, IBM will not license you a version

Re: multiple TSO Sessions (try this)

2014-01-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On 29 January 2014 11:35, Ted MacNEIL tedmacn...@bell.blackberry.net wrote: I truly believe that one ID per person with the ability to sign on once per LPAR (and share the same ISPPROF) is simpler to implement. No doubt. But simpler to implement may not be at the top of everyone's list. I

Re: multiple TSO Sessions

2014-01-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On 29 January 2014 17:19, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: think there was also a problem with the TIOC sending command output to the wrong terminal. I.e. enter the LISTALC command on terminal#1 and the results might go to terminal#2 instead. But I'm real vague on that last one. I can

Re: JESGB400/IEFGB400

2014-02-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 3 February 2014 14:24, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Harold Gray harold.g...@mantissa.com wrote: [...] L R3,JESCTEXTLOAD PAGEABLE EXTENTION DROP R3 USING JESPEXT,R3 EST ADDRESSABILITY WITH EXT L R4,JESGB400GET MSG WRITER ADDRESS *

Re: JESGB400/IEFGB400

2014-02-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 February 2014 19:12, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 2/4/2014 3:51 PM, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Harold Gray wrote: I'm coming to that conclusion also. I can't seem to get the 2.1 data areas vol 4 (JESCT) to download the whole book so I'll have to wait and try it again later.

Re: Storage Obtain .....

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 February 2014 14:21, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote: When a length of 0 is requested on GETMAIN or STORAGE OBTAIN, VSM treats this as a successful request, and returns an address of 0. In my opinion, this was a poor design choice, made long before my time, and I have seen it lead to

Re: Storage Obtain .....

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 February 2014 18:22, Gerhard Postpischil gerha...@charter.net wrote: On 2/12/2014 6:06 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: I object far more to returning an address of 0 than to accepting a length of 0 on the request. To be sure, you are allowed to store no more than 0 bytes in your obtained area

Re: Storage Obtain .....

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 February 2014 20:07, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Sure - it could assign one. It wouldn't have to be unique; just access-exception correct. And then the OP would have cleared that dummy storage area passed back from OBTAIN and wondered how _that_ happened. If you clear only

Re: Branch (was: Performance question - adding)

2014-02-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 February 2014 09:37, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: LT R0,CURRENT #LOAD CURRENT AND SET CC SPM R1 #SAVE CC FROM LT A R0,SUM #ADD SUM TO IT IPM R1 #RESTORE CC FROM LT STOC R0,SUM,NZ #STORE SUM ONLY IF CC OF LT WAS NZ Basically this loads CURRENT into R0, setting the

Re: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability

2014-02-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On 18 February 2014 11:47, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: We have here serious problems with the v2.1 C/C++ compiler, the generated machine code largely differs from 1.13, and with some serious errors (till now) Do these problems go with the compiler itself, or

Re: assembler

2014-02-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 19 February 2014 11:12, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net wrote: So what was the correct term for non-virtual storage way back then for non-67 models of the S/360? Storage? Real storage? V=R storage? The terms I heard most frequently included the word core. In my circles the term core

Re: Optimization, CPU time, and related issues

2014-02-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 18 February 2014 18:39, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: on 02/18/2014 at 01:47 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: Indeed this is the way conditional execution and branching works (and has always worked) in channel programs. No. No what? Every generation

Re: OT - What is the proper term for K notation?

2013-05-02 Thread Tony Harminc
On 2 May 2013 14:31, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Strictly speaking nude values like 1.234K are not well formed. They specify a magnitude but not a unit, kilobyte or kibibyte, kilocalorie or kibicalorie, kilogram or kibigram, kilometer or kibimeter, etc., etc. To the question 'If

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Tony Harminc
On 8 May 2013 16:59, Pew, Curtis G curtis@austin.utexas.edu wrote: On May 8, 2013, at 3:50 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Your sort of B/T has important uses, but one composed only of addresses is useful too. Perhaps it shoul;d be called an address table to avoid confusion.

Re: Destination z -- Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels

2013-05-15 Thread Tony Harminc
On 15 May 2013 14:08, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, well I didn't say it was a _good_ idea grin/. Actually, if the epoch were moved BACK in time, then the TOD value would need to be increased to keep the date the same. Which is just what happened with MVT and MVS; the

Re: Mysterious Abend 0C1

2013-05-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 May 2013 12:39, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 5/22/2013 8:34 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Of course, the OP discovered later that 'dump analyser picked up the wrong PSW '. This is why I stopped using all dump analyzers (other than my own brain) over two decades

Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 June 2013 11:31, Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com wrote: What I am looking for is an equivalent to IBM Main for VM/CMS. Well... There's nothing to say that VM topics shouldn't be discussed on IBM-MAIN. Certainly most of the discussion is closely related to z/OS, but this list is not

Re: Anyone familiar with how z/OS CSRCESRV works?

2013-06-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 June 2013 19:58, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Is anyone familiar with the internals of CSRCESRV run-length compression? I am familiar with RLE schemes in general -- typically a run of n identical characters is replaced with something like escapencharacter. Does anyone know the

Re: Reader Comment on SA22-7832-08 (PoPS), should I?

2013-06-27 Thread Tony Harminc
On 27 June 2013 11:48, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be worth while to tell IBM that the document would be much more readable if it were like the other manuals; having only one column of text, except perhaps for tables? I have had nothing but good results from my

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 5 July 2013 03:06, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/07/2013 2:56 PM, Martin Packer wrote: If that's true in Another World I wonder what it'd take to make it true in THIS one. For a start somebody to port OOREXX to z/OS. That's not going to happen until somebody first ports

Re: COBOL was: COBOL Parser

2013-07-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 19 July 2013 08:19, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Some all but random responses. [...] The C language switch statement is defined very specifically and carefully as an SBCS single-character facility. Not at all incidentally, this definition ensures that branch tables can always be

Re: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites!

2013-07-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 July 2013 11:56, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/ibm-unveils-new-mainframe-for-the-rest-of-us/ Not a lot in it, but some $ figures. quote And as far as mainframes go, the zBC12 is priced to move, starting at

Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center

2013-07-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 July 2013 10:05, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: But as someone else pointed out, there might be copyright issues with printing companies like Kinko. Indeed I had an order refused a few years ago by a big name printing place; they wanted a statement of copyright permission.

Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center

2013-07-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 July 2013 17:21, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: begin copy Effective July 29th 2013: According to e-Business strategy, IBM Publications Center does'nt support ordering anymore. The Publications are being made available in electronic format to be viewed or downloaded free of

Re: Is there a TSS mailing list?

2013-08-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 August 2013 12:32, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote: Last message I got was in 2011 There was one topic in March 2013, and about 15 separate topics in 2012, so it's perhaps not quite as dead as that. Tony H. -- For

Re: RACF Database protection

2013-08-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 August 2013 13:54, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com wrote: Where possible, you can switch to the use of password phrases rather than passwords. You're right that the brute fore attacks are increasingly simple for mere 8-byte passwords, but password phrases give you longer values

Re: TRSMAIN

2013-08-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 21 August 2013 14:59, Richard Pinion rpin...@netscape.com wrote: A data set is compressed using TRSMAIN on z/OS. It is transmitted, using binary format, to a non-z/OS server. For whatever reason the compressed file on the server is incomplete. When the compressed file is transmitted,

Re: TRSMAIN

2013-08-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 21 August 2013 20:39, Barry Merrill ba...@mxg.com wrote: It's an easy JCL exercise to conduct an experiment to confirm what happens: TRSMAIN/AMATERSE will read a truncated tersed file and never detect it was truncated. I copied a 105472 byte valid tersed file into a

Re: SMS Notices from Jes2

2013-08-27 Thread Tony Harminc
On 27 August 2013 11:29, Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E] anthony.sambat...@nih.gov wrote: I've done it via the SMTP server/address space with the TO: address being the service provider's convention. For example ATT's convention is x...@txt.att.net where xxx is the 10 digit phone number.

Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On 29 August 2013 16:18, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: I just found the following in some IBM same JCL (job, actually): //SYSUT1 DD UNIT=(SYSDA,SEP=(SORTLIB,SYSLMOD,SYSLIN)), // SPACE=(1000,(60,20)) Last change date is half of the 2013 (creation date is probably 2005 or so). As

Re: RACF Database protection

2013-09-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 3 September 2013 09:41, Costin Enache e_cos...@yahoo.com wrote: The phrase clear text is already padded with spaces to a multiple of 8, but, after encryption, the resulting hash is truncated to the length of the original clear text, minus the padding. This leaves us with an incomplete DES

Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-09-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 3 September 2013 09:33, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: In 6708946340357622.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 09/02/2013 at 05:13 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: And what's the TU corresponding to PASS? DALNDISP (0005) and DALCDISP

Re: RACF Database protection

2013-09-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 September 2013 04:07, Costin Enache e_cos...@yahoo.com wrote: It may not be APARable. Even if you fix the bug, what do you do with the old password phrases? Maybe update the RACF database with a secure hash value once the user logs in (to add the previously discarded hash bytes), but the

Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-09-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 September 2013 09:41, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: But Dynalloc did not exist until MVS, Not as a supported facility for user code, but it was there for use by DAIR in TSO. As I recall, the interface was different. There was an SVC 99 in MVT, but it wasn't

Re: Pre-assigned/invariantASIDs?

2013-09-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 6 September 2013 15:39, Gord Tomlin gt.ibm.li...@actionsoftware.com wrote: The IPCS listing in that manual is just a sample, and I would not treat it as a guarantee that the ASIDs listed there will always be the ASIDs for the indicated address spaces. In fact, they differ from what I see on

Re: GETMAIN and LOC=(xx,64)

2013-09-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 6 September 2013 16:53, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: On 9/6/2013 1:52 PM, Manfred Lotz wrote: I'm maintaining a larger program written in assembler where GETMAINs have mostly LOC=(BELOW,ANY) or LOC=(ANY,ANY). This program doesn't use anything like PGSER, EXCPVR or the

Re: 1403 Printer components manual GA24-3073-3

2013-09-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 September 2013 15:03, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Also, on DOS, I remember some sort of command the operator could issue to open it. I don't remember what the CCW was called, perhaps open gate? The handy S/370 yellow card on my desk (the March 1974 version) shows the

Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs

2013-09-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 September 2013 15:14, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Okay! Dave, can you find any Enterprise COBOL 5.1 shelf for Softcopy Librarian? I did a little poking around, since it wasn't obvious where Softcopy Librarian was getting its info. You set up an Internet source such as

Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs

2013-09-16 Thread Tony Harminc
On 16 September 2013 11:36, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin is right. All of the COBOL 5.1 publications are available for downloading at the IBM Publications website. Thus, for example, the new Language Reference, SC4-7381-00, and the new Programming Guide, SC4-7382-00, are

Re: OSA-ICC in _3215_ mode? Anybody done this?

2013-09-16 Thread Tony Harminc
On 16 September 2013 10:54, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking a the PDFs for z/OS 2.1 and saw: SA23-2247-00 OSA-ICC 3215 Support2.33http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/ioa2sp00.pdf And, being the retro idiot that I am, thought it might be interesting. I know

Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs

2013-09-16 Thread Tony Harminc
On 16 September 2013 12:45, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote: ) As pointed out, Softcopy Library (SCL) can handle PDFS 2) As for indexing all the base zOS elements, many of the zVSE, and zVM will have indexed PDFs and an associated extended (XKS) shelf. We have instituted a

Re: NSA foils much internet encryption

2013-09-16 Thread Tony Harminc
On 16 September 2013 16:04, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote: re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#55 NSA foils much internet encryption other trivia ... ECC original invented Miller at IBM Yorktown http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_S._Miller followed by Koblitz at UofW

Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs

2013-09-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 September 2013 07:13, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote: If you're referring to my comment on indexes, this isn't what I meant. I simply meant the .des files that contain pointers to the actual books, whether in .boo or .pdf format, and the metadata necessary to decide if a book is

Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs

2013-09-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 September 2013 12:03, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote: Well I could if the .des files were kept up to date, but evidently that's not happening. Which is exactly where we came in 29 posts ago. If the .des files were up to date - in this particular case so that the z/OS V1.13 file

Re: z/OS FBA Services (Was: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5)

2013-09-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 16 September 2013 19:48, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: HFS UNIX filesystems are supported in the OMVS address space itself. zFS filesystems are supported in a colony address space called ZFS. In passing, there is no strong connection between running a filesystem in the

Re: IEBCOPY - MOVE

2013-09-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 September 2013 15:01, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: Does anyone know if there has ever been a requirement to support MOVE as in COPY + DELETE in IEBCOPY like ISPF move does? A newbie asked me about this today. It would be nice I suppose. Instead I pointed him to PDS86, IDCAMS

Re: CVTLSO, SMF, and RMF (was: Where environment variables ...)

2013-09-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 September 2013 17:32, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Is my first sentence correct if I change it to The z/OS system clock is (if your shop follows best practices) set to Universal Coordinated Time (UTC, similar to Greenwich Mean Time or GMT).? I think it's Coordinated Universal

Re: IEBCOPY - MOVE

2013-09-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 September 2013 16:41, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:24:10 -0400, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: IEHMOVE. Heh... Does the HEH mean you are joking or IEHMOVE is a joke? I kind of thought the one Heh... would do for both. No, it can't be used

Re: Does z/OS 2.1 support COBOL 4.2?

2013-09-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 18 September 2013 11:39, John P Kalinich jkali...@csc.com wrote: This web link has end of service dates for IBM products. http://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/index_e.html Where clicking on the z/OS 1.13 line gives me a nice friendly IBM message: Internal Server Error The

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-20 Thread Tony Harminc
On 20 September 2013 09:28, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote: Tim, I have to disagree in part with the statement you made below that ... it couldn't be avoided. It most certainly *could* have been avoided. It may have been a ... reasonable, responsible technical choice

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 September 2013 20:18, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:56:46 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: There is actually a Unicode EBCDIC (UTF-EBCDIC) but it's pretty obscure. Not as obscure as it deserves to be. Never miss a chance on this one, do you Gil... As you

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 September 2013 21:56, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect that the phrase and its variants have multiple etymologies, with much semantic cross contamination among them. Indeed. I had imagined that any actual such contest would be engaged in only by small boys, and that the

Re: Optimization, CPU time, and related issues

2014-02-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 20 February 2014 21:40, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: on 02/19/2014 at 02:43 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: I didn't suggest, let alone say, anything counter to this. Then who wrote Indeed this is the way conditional execution and branching works

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 21 February 2014 11:37, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: Browsing the dumped storage around the program's load address (x'7000') I see: Event 1 CSECT DBR915B0 GPR 15 (Address 7000) 700080ECD00C*..}.*

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 21 February 2014 15:28, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: It appears from our tentative diagnosis that the MVCK instruction was not in executable code, but rather was just data in the PARM passed to the program at invocation. Thus the questions about where the system places PARM data

Re: Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program

2014-02-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 February 2014 10:44, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote: two people from the Los Gatos VLSI lab originally did mainframe pascal for VLSI chip tools ... this goes on eventually to become the vs/pascal product. Amoung other things it was used to implement the original mainframe

Re: OCOPY fails to convert text

2014-03-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 2 March 2014 18:30, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: [1] Does IBM have a z/OS code page for ISO 8859-15 yet? IBM has produced only two code pages for Latin-9; one ASCIIish (923) and one EBCDIC (924). Tony H.

Re: OCOPY fails to convert text

2014-03-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 3 March 2014 20:54, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote: GIYF. I refer you to these Wikipedia references, the first of which makes it quite clear that iso-8859-1 is definitely NOT Windows, though it does call it ASCII-based; and the second of which is a nice reference

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 March 2014 09:01, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: Much earlier, someone decided that the power unit for the 650 was of a convenient height for drying socks. A Selenium rectifier blew out. Not a pleasant smell (the rectifier; no comment on the socks), as anyone

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 March 2014 10:57, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote: I would tend to use the distinction that for the psect, a private copy was loaded and adjusted for the specific virtual address space location ... separately from (r/o) memory mapping the executable image with no requirement for

Re: all this crap from Umberto Silvestri

2014-03-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 March 2014 13:17, Bonno, Tuco t...@cio.sc.gov wrote: anybody know how to set up Microsoft Outlook to purge/quarantine/shitcan all this stuff we're getting from him ? Maybe someone (or all of us) should call the local IBM office and complain about this. IBM is notoriously bad with these

Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 March 2014 08:48, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: My microwave oven and my clock radio don't support 24-hour. Microwave ovens are an odd case, because some support 24-hour time, but most don't. But more interestingly many of them support a curious mixed-base notation. So I can

Re: S0C1 TSO TESTAUTH

2014-03-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 March 2014 11:54, MichealButz michealb...@optonline.net wrote: [blank lines removed for readability] I am setting a breakpoint at offset +0 in my program and getting a S0C1 at location +E The following is my scenario TESTAUTH 'ISP.SISPLPA(ISPF)' CP LOAD 'MYLOAD.LIBRARY(MYMOD)' Q

Re: building text messages with substitutions

2014-03-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 March 2014 11:08, Donald Russell russell@gmail.com wrote: I've been using WTO ROUTCDE=11 to display various message in the job log of assembler language batch applications that's great/easy for fixed text messages. VM/CMS has the APPLMSG macro which makes it ridiculously simple

Re: building text messages with substitutions

2014-03-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 March 2014 14:01, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Wish I had thought of using the Metal C version of sprintf(). I actually ended up figuring out how to write a number of z/OS UNIX commands using LE enabled assembler so that I could use things such as sprintf() or

Re: building text messages with substitutions

2014-03-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 March 2014 14:53, Donald Russell russell@gmail.com wrote: Holly Smokes! Metal C looks perfect THANKS! :-) I just need sprintf features Please keep us posted with your results. I haven't actually tried it, but I've thought about it a few times - enough to look at the calling

Re: Testing out TSO Authorized commands

2014-03-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 March 2014 15:39, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net wrote: I have authorized TSO command actually a program that issues a modeset to get into supervisor state When I run this program under TESTAUTH to debug it And it is in AUTHCMD/AUTHPGM In IKJTSOXX I get a s0c1at the begining

Re: building text messages with substitutions

2014-03-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On 14 March 2014 01:51, Donald Russell russell@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking for doc on how to do this It seems I need to call __cinit to set up a C environment, then I can call sprintf and finally __cterm to terminate the C environment I'm not sure, but the way I read it

Re: curious: volsers 6 non-blank chars non-numeric tape

2014-03-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On 14 March 2014 13:49, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Has anybody ever had a VOLSER which was not exactly 6 non-blank characters for a regularly used volume? Especially any trailing blanks? Decades ago the university I worked at had a standard of N and F for Native

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 March 2014 13:51, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com wrote: MVS was the prior name of what has become z/OS. What was started out as MVS in 1974 was renamed to: [...] Although the name MVS was around in 1974, IBM chose, for the usual marketing reasons of the day, to sell it as OS/VS2 Release 2,

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On 18 March 2014 12:00, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: How did the 67 deal with legacy code's use of the sign bit to terminate parameter lists? I doubt that much legacy code ran on such a machine in 32-bit mode. There would surely be other reasons to run such code only in 24-bit

Re: APAR OA30338 for PDSE Users

2014-03-20 Thread Tony Harminc
On 20 March 2014 10:48, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Tom, that was the cause of the problem. I logged off TSO and back on again and was able to delete the offending dataset. Sorry for sending everyone off on a wild goose chase. Well you didn't exactly have ideal

Re: NJE Clarifications

2014-03-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 21 March 2014 11:18, Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com wrote: For an NJE to work we must have to two different nodes. Is there a way for NJE to work within a single Node(Monoplex) just to communicate to another product(As a socket-Running in same Node) ? For many years (decades,

Re: Reflexivity (was: NJE Clarifications)

2014-03-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 March 2014 08:11, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:12:49 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I''m not asking a question; I'm pointing out a false analogy. TCP/IP, in contrast, is blessedly tolerant. makes no sense. ... I'm asking in what sense TCP/IP is

Re: old RJE 360 workstation mod - reflexivity

2014-03-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 March 2014 12:03, Bill Godfrey yak36...@yahoo.com wrote: The current thread about reflexivity reminds me of an old program we tested in the mid-70's, before NJE, that was called the Iowa Workstation. It was a modification from the University of Iowa of the HRTPB360 program that came

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 16:16, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if all the header files were trilingual? Assembler/PLS/Metal C? It'll take a while. Ugh, please. :-( There's nothing wrong with Metal C that a complete redesign wouldn't fix. But in any case, what would

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 16:56, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: But in any case, what would you do to allow PL/X and C to pick out their own code? The assembler vs PL/X or C comment format makes it easy, but both PL/X and C have /* comments */ . #if ? But how will both PL/X and assembler not

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 18:11, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: #if ? But how will both PL/X and assembler not see it? That's their problem. Perhaps AGO for assembler. And hasn't PL/X something similar? Well you can't reasonably ask for trilingual macros and then shrug your shoulders

Metal C generating junk for long input lines?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
Speaking of Metal C, I'm seeing a strange thing just recently. My C input is a VB 255 PDSE member, and the output is an FB 80 PDSE member. Whenever an input line exceeds 80 characters, the output assembler source has a bogus line with unprintable characters where the wrapped part of the original C

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 19:03, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Well you can't reasonably ask for trilingual macros and then shrug your shoulders when asked for how it might work. Actually, I can. That's an implementation technique. Suppose a Requirement for trilingual macros were to

Re: Allocating file in Rex exec

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 21:50, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net wrote: Alloc fi(myddnam) da('my.pds.name(member)') shr I get an error routine not found You are calling a REXX function named my.pds.name(member) which presumably is not what you intended. Why do you have those inner double quotes?

Re: Ever see automatic 30-day trials for mainframe software?

2014-03-26 Thread Tony Harminc
On 26 March 2014 12:20, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Right. Good input. Thanks. I have shipped software with a hard-coded expiration date. What I am looking for is a floating expiration date that would be 30 days after installation, whether installed today or a year from today. It

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 March 2014 02:28, Mohamed Juma mmj...@yahoo.com wrote: What is the recommended way to install z/os from scratch to a new data center, includes new hardware z machine, DASD, tape system. If you are in this unusual position, IBM will surely be already knocking at your door to help you do

Re: Compiler error in z/OS C compiler

2014-03-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 March 2014 09:47, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de wrote: I just realized that NULL returning 0xFF00 was designed when we still had 24 bit addressing, so there must have been other reasons for this design decision. I remember heated discussions on this matter at my

Re: RES: Messages Prefix

2014-03-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 March 2014 14:00, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Look in Relating component ID to component name, module prefix, and product in book MVS Diagnosis: Reference. This one should help you in a way for IBM software. I believe someone said on IBM-MAIN that IBM

IBM Explorer for z/OS - installation problems?

2014-04-02 Thread Tony Harminc
I thought I'd try it, but on my Windows 7 the installer just quietly exits. Of course I can provide more details if I know what's important, but have some of you installed it and had it Just Work? Any pointers? I downloaded it from http://www-01.ibm.com/software/htp/cics/ibmexplforzos and tried

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