Re: Bill Johnson

[Bill Giannelli]

thank you Darren,
I rely on the technical help from this list not for arguments!
Bill
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extracting "*.pax.Z" without USS

[Bill Giannelli]

I currently do not have access to USS and need to extract *.PAX.Z files.
Can I upload as a regular file and extract it without using USS?
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separate a single product into its own CSI

[Bill Giannelli]

We have a CSI with multiple products (Db2 QMF QM and HPUNL - High Performance 
Unload).
Is there a way to "extract" a single product and set it up in it's own CSI?
thanks
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Re: DB2 install clist IRX0041I

[Bill Giannelli]

thanks for your response.
I did run DSNTIJXZ, it turns out in the first panel I was pointing to the wrong 
version SMPe libraries.
thanks
Bill

On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 12:24:05 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike  wrote:

>Bill,
>
>Did you run the DSNTEJxZ job from SDSNSAMP. This captures your existing
>parameter values for use later in the installation process.
>
>Which version of DB2 are you migrating?
>
>Check this chapter:
>
>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/db2-for-zos/12?topic=jobs-running-clist-in-interactive-mode
>
>On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 8:03 AM Bill Giannelli 
>wrote:
>
>> I am running the Db2 install / migration clist DSNTINST and am getting an
>> IRX0041I error:
>>446 +++ IRLMREG = (104857600 + (NUMTHRDS * IRLMLKUS * IRLMLKSZ))/
>> 1048576
>> IRX0041I Error running DSNTCALC, line 446: Bad arithmetic conversion
>>
>> SET   =  * ((2000 * 11)/100)
>>
>> IKJ56545I THIS STATEMENT HAS AN EXPRESSION WITH OPERATORS OUT OF SEQUENCE
>>
>> ***
>>
>> any ideas?
>> thanks
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DB2 install clist IRX0041I

[Bill Giannelli]

I am running the Db2 install / migration clist DSNTINST and am getting an 
IRX0041I error:
   446 +++ IRLMREG = (104857600 + (NUMTHRDS * IRLMLKUS * IRLMLKSZ))/ 1048576
IRX0041I Error running DSNTCALC, line 446: Bad arithmetic conversion
SET   =  * ((2000 * 11)/100) 
IKJ56545I THIS STATEMENT HAS AN EXPRESSION WITH OPERATORS OUT OF SEQUENCE   
*** 
any ideas?
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Re: 0C1 abend

[Bill Giannelli]

So this is for BMC Unload for Db2. A few changes, first z/OS upgrade to v2.5. 
Then applied DB2 RSU2305 maintenance, Then activated Db2 function Level 509. I 
am wondering if any of these are the cause
On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 08:09:12 -0500, Stephen Donaldson  
wrote:

>What do the registers and PSW say?  You could have branched into data or into 
>the PSA.  Branching into the PSA is often caused by a missing or xero address, 
>for example you had weak externals that were not resolved or some 
>vector/branch table that was not populated. Or you could have overwriten your 
>code with data or some other means generating an attempt to execute an invalid 
>instruction.
>
>Regards,
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0C1 abend

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How do I resolve a 0C1 abend. what is normally the cause?
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JAVA started tasks?

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Does JAVA have any started tasks on z/OS?
We have a task that the vendor says needs JAVA "up" first.
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Re: TLS - and HTTP download

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I am confused myself!
we originally "reconfigured" TLS to provide for encrypted data transfer for Db2 
thru secured ports.
part of that work (I do not know why) was specifying a rule for HTTPS.
Now the only way we can download on this LPAR is when the HTTPS - TLS rule is 
disabled.
Does that make sense?
thanks
Bill  
On Mon, 1 May 2023 15:03:47 +, Kurt J. Quackenbush  wrote:

>I'm confused by your question.  Can you be more specific what you mean by "we 
>have locked down HTTPS via TLS"?  Are you not allowing any HTTPS traffic at 
>all?  That feels extreme.
>
>Kurt Quackenbush
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TLS - and HTTP download

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we download IBM software maintenance via HTTPS.
Now, we have locked down HTTPS via TLS.
This prevents us from downloading.
One detail, we are going thru a proxy server.
How do we need to configure so we can still download using HTTPS with TLS 
locking it down?
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Re: cyberark efforts

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Hi Bruce,
Thanks so much for your response!
Are the cyberark ids literally the same as the racf ids? 
Our cyberark team wants us to use separate group of "generic" cyberark ids 
different from our original RACF ids.
So one day you might "check out" cyberark id 123, another day you might "check 
out" cyberark id "abc".
thanks
Bill
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 22:47:27 -0500, Bruce Hewson  
wrote:

>Hello Bill,
>
>CyberArk can do RACF and Top Secret USER administration,. at least for 
>PASSWORD change, and REVOKE/RELEASE processing.
>
>CyverArk will connect to Z/OS via ssh.  Certificates are used for the ssh 
>connection validation. The USER used by CybertArk must have suitable 
>administrative permissions to issue commands.
>
>For RACF systems, CyberArk can run a shell script to issue the ALTUSER 
>command. Pay attention to how the command string is quoted, as "$" can be used 
>in USERID and PASSWORD values, and shell processing could treat it as a 
>variable.
>
>Been using it for some years now.
>
>Regards
>Bruce Hewson
>
>
>On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 11:15:27 -0500, Bill Giannelli  
>wrote:
>
>>our company is pushing forward with cyberark for all platforms.
>>the statement was made that cyberark and the like are becoming the industry 
>>standard.
>>Is that true for z/OS systems?
>>thanks
>>Bill
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RACF MFA

[Bill Giannelli]

what is needed to implement MFA (Multi Factor Authentication) in RACF aside 
from the RACF changes?
would network changes be needed also?
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Re: cyberark efforts

[Bill Giannelli]

can anyone on this thread reach out to me that has had a successful 
implementation of cyberark when accessing z/OS?
thanks
Bill
On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 12:02:09 -0500, Bill Giannelli  
wrote:

>is that a TSO command?
>On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 12:01:07 -0500, Doug Henry  wrote:
>
>>They are different id's but you can use profile prefix command to set your 
>>HLQ for unquoted dataset names. Of course all cyberarks  id's are defined to 
>>RACF 
>>
>>Doug
>>On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 11:18:19 -0500, Bill Giannelli  
>>wrote:
>>
>>>thank you all for the responses and information.
>>>alot on z/OS is based off of your RACF id and is used as a HLQ for alot of 
>>>software.
>>>when setting up cyberark ids, are they identical to the racf id to resolve 
>>>this?
>>>in our shop they want us to us completely different ids
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 10:55:37 -0500, Doug Henry  wrote:
>>>
>>>>We use Cyberark  and yes it does connect to z/OS via SSH.
>>>>
>>>>Doug 
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 19:34:46 +, Mark Jacobs  
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Sorry. I have no idea how the whole thing works from an infrastructure 
>>>>>POV. I'm just a user, these were my observations at my $currentjob.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mark Jacobs 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I gather there is no supplied connector specific to z/OS.
>>>>>> Does your site use SSH to connect to z/OS and reset passwords, or do you 
>>>>>> have an in-house written connector?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> > > > > 12:15 PM, Bill Giannelli billgianne...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> > > > > 
>>>>>> > > > > > our company is pushing forward with cyberark for all platforms.
>>>>>> > > > > > the statement was made that cyberark and the like are becoming 
>>>>>> > > > > > the industry standard.
>>>>>> > > > > > Is that true for z/OS systems?
>>>>>> > > > > > thanks
>>>>>> > > > > > Bill
>>>>>
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Re: cyberark efforts

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is that a TSO command?
On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 12:01:07 -0500, Doug Henry  wrote:

>They are different id's but you can use profile prefix command to set your HLQ 
>for unquoted dataset names. Of course all cyberarks  id's are defined to RACF 
>
>Doug
>On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 11:18:19 -0500, Bill Giannelli  
>wrote:
>
>>thank you all for the responses and information.
>>alot on z/OS is based off of your RACF id and is used as a HLQ for alot of 
>>software.
>>when setting up cyberark ids, are they identical to the racf id to resolve 
>>this?
>>in our shop they want us to us completely different ids
>>
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 10:55:37 -0500, Doug Henry  wrote:
>>
>>>We use Cyberark  and yes it does connect to z/OS via SSH.
>>>
>>>Doug 
>>>
>>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 19:34:46 +, Mark Jacobs  
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sorry. I have no idea how the whole thing works from an infrastructure POV. 
>>>>I'm just a user, these were my observations at my $currentjob.
>>>>
>>>>Mark Jacobs 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I gather there is no supplied connector specific to z/OS.
>>>>> Does your site use SSH to connect to z/OS and reset passwords, or do you 
>>>>> have an in-house written connector?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> > > > > 12:15 PM, Bill Giannelli billgianne...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> > > > > 
>>>>> > > > > > our company is pushing forward with cyberark for all platforms.
>>>>> > > > > > the statement was made that cyberark and the like are becoming 
>>>>> > > > > > the industry standard.
>>>>> > > > > > Is that true for z/OS systems?
>>>>> > > > > > thanks
>>>>> > > > > > Bill
>>>>
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Re: cyberark efforts

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thank you all for the responses and information.
alot on z/OS is based off of your RACF id and is used as a HLQ for alot of 
software.
when setting up cyberark ids, are they identical to the racf id to resolve this?
in our shop they want us to us completely different ids



On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 10:55:37 -0500, Doug Henry  wrote:

>We use Cyberark  and yes it does connect to z/OS via SSH.
>
>Doug 
>
>On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 19:34:46 +, Mark Jacobs  
>wrote:
>
>>Sorry. I have no idea how the whole thing works from an infrastructure POV. 
>>I'm just a user, these were my observations at my $currentjob.
>>
>>Mark Jacobs 
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I gather there is no supplied connector specific to z/OS.
>>> Does your site use SSH to connect to z/OS and reset passwords, or do you 
>>> have an in-house written connector?
>>> Thanks
>>
>
>>
>>> > > > > 12:15 PM, Bill Giannelli billgianne...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > our company is pushing forward with cyberark for all platforms.
>>> > > > > > the statement was made that cyberark and the like are becoming 
>>> > > > > > the industry standard.
>>> > > > > > Is that true for z/OS systems?
>>> > > > > > thanks
>>> > > > > > Bill
>>
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Re: cyberark efforts

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kept in sync with cyberark?
On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 16:55:24 +, Mark Jacobs  
wrote:

>We have multiple RACF databases, the passwords are all kept in sync via RRSF 
>links. One userid/one password.
>
>Mark Jacobs 
>
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>
>--- Original Message ---
>On Monday, April 24th, 2023 at 12:29 PM, Bill Giannelli 
> wrote:
>
>
>> do you share groups of accounts? Or do you have a one to one ids? cyberark 
>> id to racf id?
>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 16:23:15 +, Mark Jacobs markjac...@protonmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > We use CyberArk for all privileged accounts, including z/OS.
>> > 
>> > Mark Jacobs
>> > 
>> > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email.
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>> > 
>> > --- Original Message ---
>> > On Monday, April 24th, 2023 at 12:15 PM, Bill Giannelli 
>> > billgianne...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > 
>> > > our company is pushing forward with cyberark for all platforms.
>> > > the statement was made that cyberark and the like are becoming the 
>> > > industry standard.
>> > > Is that true for z/OS systems?
>> > > thanks
>> > > Bill
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Re: cyberark efforts

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do you share groups of accounts? Or do you have a one to one ids? cyberark id 
to racf id?
On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 16:23:15 +, Mark Jacobs  
wrote:

>We use CyberArk for all privileged accounts, including z/OS.
>
>Mark Jacobs 
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>On Monday, April 24th, 2023 at 12:15 PM, Bill Giannelli 
> wrote:
>
>
>> our company is pushing forward with cyberark for all platforms.
>> the statement was made that cyberark and the like are becoming the industry 
>> standard.
>> Is that true for z/OS systems?
>> thanks
>> Bill
>> 
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cyberark efforts

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our company is pushing forward with cyberark for all platforms.
the statement was made that cyberark and the like are becoming the industry 
standard.
Is that true for z/OS systems?
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Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

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Hi Dave,
Thanks for the response.
No I am not editing the target data directly. We are working out of a pds 
separate from SMPe libraries.
The user mod looks like what I'm after. I will look into that..
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 13:37:15 -0500, Dave Jousma  wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 13:10:19 -0500, Bill Giannelli  
>wrote:
>
>>various jobs for Db2 software maintenance, such as DSNTIJUZ DSNTIJUA DSNTIJRT.
>>Bill
>>On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 10:19:07 -0500, Dave Jousma  wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:36:40 -0500, Bill Giannelli  
>>>wrote:
>>>
>
>So, those are DB2 jobs.   So what that tells me is that you might be editing 
>and using the SMPE target data, vs copying the JCL out to another library to 
>use?   If so, that’s really a no-no.   But if you want to make your changes 
>properly to that dataset so that SMPE knows about the changes, you would 
>create a USERMOD to replace the JCL with your customized JCL after merging in 
>any changes made by the maintenance.   A USERMOD will then tell you when a PTF 
>will overwrite the JCL, and will be the signal to 1) remove your usermod and 
>apply the PTF, and 2) re-work your usermod, and re-apply it.
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Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

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various jobs for Db2 software maintenance, such as DSNTIJUZ DSNTIJUA DSNTIJRT.
Bill
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 10:19:07 -0500, Dave Jousma  wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:36:40 -0500, Bill Giannelli  
>wrote:
>
>>Do many of you out there use SMP/E JCLIN processing to track and save job 
>>updates?
>>Currently we do not make use of this and manually keep JCL up to date.
>>It seems there is a value to have SMPe ke  
>>
>
>Bill,
>
>No one has asked yet, but I'm curious what JCL specifically, you are talking 
>about, and needing to keep up to date?
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Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

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SCLM seems geared towards COBOL and PLI not JCL?
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 22:18:52 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike  wrote:

>Bill,
>
>If SCLM is installed there is a sample project you can work from. That
>should be a good starter.
>
>There is a set of JCL members to set up a project, use that as a basis.
>
>Any questions, just keep asking away.
>
>On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:57 PM Bill Giannelli 
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Wayne,
>> I see SCLM now in ISPF. I wasnt aware of it.
>> Is the IBM online doc good enough for a SCLM newbie?
>> thanks
>> Bill
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:48:00 -0500, Bill Giannelli <
>> billgianne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >hi wayne,
>> >what is SCLM?
>> >On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 21:43:25 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I would use SCLM if you don't have another source management tool.
>> >>
>> >>On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:37 PM Bill Giannelli 
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Do many of you out there use SMP/E JCLIN processing to track and save
>> job
>> >>> updates?
>> >>> Currently we do not make use of this and manually keep JCL up to date.
>> >>> It seems there is a value to have SMPe ke
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Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

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Hi Wayne,
I see SCLM now in ISPF. I wasnt aware of it.
Is the IBM online doc good enough for a SCLM newbie?
thanks
Bill
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:48:00 -0500, Bill Giannelli  
wrote:

>hi wayne,
>what is SCLM?
>On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 21:43:25 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike  wrote:
>
>>I would use SCLM if you don't have another source management tool.
>>
>>On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:37 PM Bill Giannelli 
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Do many of you out there use SMP/E JCLIN processing to track and save job
>>> updates?
>>> Currently we do not make use of this and manually keep JCL up to date.
>>> It seems there is a value to have SMPe ke
>>>
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Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

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hi wayne,
what is SCLM?
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 21:43:25 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike  wrote:

>I would use SCLM if you don't have another source management tool.
>
>On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:37 PM Bill Giannelli 
>wrote:
>
>> Do many of you out there use SMP/E JCLIN processing to track and save job
>> updates?
>> Currently we do not make use of this and manually keep JCL up to date.
>> It seems there is a value to have SMPe ke
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Do many of you out there use SMP/E JCLIN processing to track and save job 
updates?
Currently we do not make use of this and manually keep JCL up to date.
It seems there is a value to have SMPe ke  

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Re: ssid not recognized after erly code update

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thank you for all the help!
What occurred was that I reallocated the SDSNLINK (for the Db2 ERLY code) on a 
different volume.
APF seemed ok to me as it was specified as SMS.
However, the linklist in parmlib specified the specific volume, which needed to 
be updated.
So now it is working.
thanks
Bill
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 06:26:04 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike  wrote:

>Bill,
>
>Read this:
>
>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/db2-for-zos/12?topic=delivery-updating-db2-initialization-parameters-function-level-activation
>
>
>
>On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 8:45 PM Bill Giannelli 
>wrote:
>
>> I updated DB2 ERLY code dataset SDSNLINK, now the SSID is not recognized.
>> Have IPLd and refreshed LLA then tried stopping and starting LLA.
>> What is wrong?
>> thanks
>> Bill
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I updated DB2 ERLY code dataset SDSNLINK, now the SSID is not recognized.
Have IPLd and refreshed LLA then tried stopping and starting LLA.
What is wrong?
thanks
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reallocating a linklist dataset

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I have to reallocate a Linklisted dataset due to space reasons.
As expected it is allocated by LLA and XCFAS.
Would the dataset be de-allocated at IPL so I might redefine my dataset?
Or would there be allocation across the sysplex for other Lpars?
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Re: concatenated SMPPTS datasets

[Bill Giannelli]

Hi David,
Thank you for your response!
That was easy!
Thanks
Bill
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 12:18:57 -0400, David Spiegel  
wrote:

>Hi Bill,
>Create a DDDEF/Dataset for SMPPTS1, SMPPTS2 etc.
>Be sure to add the DDDEFs to the Global, Target and DLIB Zones.
>
>Regards,
>David
>
>On 2023-03-29 12:10, Bill Giannelli wrote:
>> So, I have alot of maintenance to receive and am blowing out on SMPPTS. 
>> within SMPe can I concatenate a second dataset for SMPPTS in the DDDEF?
>> thanks
>> Bill
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So, I have alot of maintenance to receive and am blowing out on SMPPTS. within 
SMPe can I concatenate a second dataset for SMPPTS in the DDDEF?
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Re: Cloning SMPe Global, Target and DLIB

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Hi Kurt,
thanks for your response.
I have been very interested in z/OSMF and maybe using the workflows. 
Unfortunately our managed service company is not too responsive in keeping 
things up to date. (they do not have z/OSMF running on our systems).
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:03:29 +, Kurt J. Quackenbush  
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>> What is the best or recommended way to copy or clone a SMPe Global CSI, 
>> Target and Dlib with all the underlying datasets?
>> I want to create a new HLQ and clone under that.
>
>If you don't already have a process or set of jobs defined to clone your SMP/E 
>environment, I suggest you check out the Deployment action in z/OSMF Software 
>Management.  You tell z/OSMF the global zone CSI data set and it figures out 
>all the target and dlib data sets, the CSIs for the target and dlib zones, the 
>other SMP/E data sets...  It also updates all the DDDEF entries, ZONEINDEXes, 
>etc to reflect the new names of the cloned data sets.  It doesn't care if the 
>source data sets are on a particular volume or have a particular naming 
>convention or in a storage group or whatever.  Its quite flexible.  Just 
>sayin'.
>
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>ChuckoNorris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.
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Re: Cloning SMPe Global, Target and DLIB

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Hi Mark,
thanks for your response.
One of the things of my posts that might be confusing, is that I am 
specifically working with DB2 installations and it's tools. I do not work on or 
change the z/OS system it's self. I am a Db2 Systems Programmer/ DBA. I would 
never touch things like SYS1.LINKLIB.
thanks
Bill 
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 11:24:36 -0500, Mark Zelden  wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 04:08:13 -0500, Bill Giannelli  
>wrote:
>
>>What is the best or recommended way to copy or clone a SMPe Global CSI, 
>>Target and Dlib with all the underlying datasets?
>>I want to create a new HLQ and clone under that.
>>thanks
>>Bill
>
>A new HLQ for the zones?  You're not going to rename things like SYS1.LINKLIB. 
>  
>
>The planning for installation manual has a section on cloning your system.   I 
>don't know about "best", but I have sample in the "Jobs/Doc" section of my web 
>site.  It's from z/OS 1.8, but the process was the same for many years prior 
>and after.  The only thing that ever really changed was the introduction of 
>VSAM for zFS.   I've always kept the volser as part of the name even when it 
>was HFS, so zFS vs. HFS doesn't matter in terms of that sample.  
>
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Re: Cloning SMPe Global, Target and DLIB

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Hi Wayne,
Thanks for the response!
So, my current CSI, zones and underlying datasets are all within one storage 
group, mixed in with other unrelated various datasets.
In order to guarantee a better backup, should I have our storage team define a 
separate new storage group solely for new HLQ?
This way the restore, if ever needed, would be easier?
thanks
Bill
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:22:53 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike  wrote:

>ADRDSSU . DUMP and RESTORE with HLQ rename. After that, you'll need to
>modify DDDEFs to reflect the newly created underlying datasets.
>
>On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 8:08 PM Bill Giannelli 
>wrote:
>
>> What is the best or recommended way to copy or clone a SMPe Global CSI,
>> Target and Dlib with all the underlying datasets?
>> I want to create a new HLQ and clone under that.
>> thanks
>> Bill
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Cloning SMPe Global, Target and DLIB

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What is the best or recommended way to copy or clone a SMPe Global CSI, Target 
and Dlib with all the underlying datasets?
I want to create a new HLQ and clone under that.
thanks
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separate SMPe environments

[Bill Giannelli]

Another stupid SMPe question.
Currently, we have one CSI with one target and one dlib. (I inherited this). I 
want to setup at least another target and dlib zones for a "before" maintenance 
level.
Might you ever consider creating a whole new csi for that or just as normal 
have different zones under 1 csi?
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SMPe securing zones

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I want to create another TARGET and DLIB zone for another level of maintenance.
I am currently, showing "newbie" offshore folks our SMPe environment.
Is there a way to "secure" the newly created TARGET and DLIB zones so they are 
not inadvertently updated?
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Re: using a v2.5 load on v2.3

[Bill Giannelli]

yes they are on the same hardware.
this was a db2 system zParm load module. We are not making any use of any new 
v2.5 features yet.
Out of an abundance of caution, I reassembled on our v2.3 system.
thanks
Bill
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 01:30:02 +, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

>Well, if you us the downlevel macro libraries then you should be fine. If you 
>do something specific to 2.4 or 2.5 then you might have issues.

Are the 2.3 and 2.5 systems on the same hardware?


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I assembled and link/edited a module on a z/OS 2.5 system.
Now I want to use or execute that module on a z/OS 2.3 system.
Might that cause any issues?
thanks
Bill

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Re: z/OS v2.05 and v2.5

[Bill Giannelli]

On our systems, I am seeing, "under z/OS V2.03", on the initial TSO screen.
thanks
Bill

On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 12:32:39 +, Peter Relson  wrote:

>Could someone point out where they have seen "z/OS v2.05"?
>
>These are the things that I know to be the same:
>z/OS 2.5
>z/OS v2r5
>z/OS 02.05.00
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>z/OS v2.5 would be the same but I don't think is an intended use.
>
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I assembled and link/edited a module on a z/OS 2.5 system.
Now I want to use or execute that module on a z/OS 2.3 system.
Might that cause any issues?
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how to find the assembly or link edit date of a load module

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within an assembler load module, where might I find either the assembly or 
link/edit date of that load?
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z/OS v2.05 and v2.5

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stupid question #2,363..
Is z/OS v2.05 and v2.5 the same thing?
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Re: location of JCL for started task

[Bill Giannelli]

I found a WLM entry for an application environment specifying the proc in 
question with the following:
Starting of server address spaces for a subsystem instance: 
 Managed by WLM 
So is this started from within WLM? 
On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 03:45:09 +, Gibney, Dave  wrote:

>The job cards from MSTJCL IEFJOBS Dd is newer that started tasks. Sounds to me 
>like your STC is started by
>S procname and any JOB card is system generated. If started before JESx, then 
>it's from the proclib concatenation in MSTJCL
>If after, and your JES proclib concatenation is different, then maybe from 
>there. 
>
>You state you can find the proc. That's probably where it is being started from
>
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>> 
>> we have a PDS for job cards for started tasks, which reference our system
>> proclib.
>> I have a started task that is executing, yet I can not find the actual JCL
>> (Jobcard, etc). I can find the proc.
>> How can I find where the JCL is being read from?
>> thanks
>> Bill
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Re: location of JCL for started task

[Bill Giannelli]

I see in the system log is was submitted from STCINRDR


On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 13:02:55 -0500, Paul Gilmartin  wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 12:26:19 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote:
>
>>we have a PDS for job cards for started tasks, which reference our system 
>>proclib.
>>I have a started task that is executing, yet I can not find the actual JCL 
>>(Jobcard, etc). I can find the proc.
>>How can I find where the JCL is being read from?
>> 
>Might it have  been started from a console?:
><https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=command-starting-system-task-from-console>
>(or by automation), in which case there might be no such member; only the 
>command
>shown in the system log.
>
>The audit trail can be hard to follow when someone submits from an editor
>a job created ab  ovo.
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Re: location of JCL for started task

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hi Steve,
We have IOF not SDSF.
But I do not see anywhere where it indicates the pds where the JCL came from 
for that proc.
thanks
Bill
On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 12:30:25 -0500, Steve Beaver  wrote:

>Go into the running STC in SDSF and in the section that gives the stats it 
>will be first line 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>No one said I could type with one thumb 
>
>> On Mar 18, 2023, at 12:26, Bill Giannelli  wrote:
>> 
>> we have a PDS for job cards for started tasks, which reference our system 
>> proclib.
>> I have a started task that is executing, yet I can not find the actual JCL 
>> (Jobcard, etc). I can find the proc.
>> How can I find where the JCL is being read from?
>> thanks
>> Bill
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we have a PDS for job cards for started tasks, which reference our system 
proclib.
I have a started task that is executing, yet I can not find the actual JCL 
(Jobcard, etc). I can find the proc.
How can I find where the JCL is being read from?
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Re: how to display storage(memory) for an lpar

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thank you, sir!
On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 12:00:00 -0400, Gord Tomlin 
 wrote:

>On 2023-03-18 11:38 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:
>> I mean, total physical storage (memory)
>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 10:34:55 -0500, Bill Giannelli  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> how do you display the current amount of storage (memory) for an LPAR?
>>> thanks
>>> Bill
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>D M=STOR
>IEE174I 11.58.56 DISPLAY M 487
>REAL STORAGE STATUS
>ONLINE-NOT RECONFIGURABLE
> 0G-6G
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I mean, total physical storage (memory)
On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 10:34:55 -0500, Bill Giannelli  
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>how do you display the current amount of storage (memory) for an LPAR?
>thanks
>Bill
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how do you display the current amount of storage (memory) for an LPAR?
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Re: not using SMPe

[Bill Giannelli]

Hi Steve,
Thanks for your answer!
Also, more specifically, for IBM software itself.
Is it possible? Or is it an IBM requirement? Just curious, as it was asked of 
me. Not planning on doing it without SMPe!
To use IEBUPDTE IEBCOPY.you end up doing manually what SMPe does 
automatically in the first place!
thanks
Bill 
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:13:01 -0400, Steve Thompson  wrote:

>On 3/14/2023 8:40 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:
>> Just curious, is it possible and do some companies NOT use SMPe for z/OS 
>> software updates?
>> thanks
>> Bill
>
>I take it from your question that you have software provided by
>third parties and do not see an associated CSI for them?
>
>Yes, there are some companies that provide updates via IEBUPDTE,
>and IEBCOPY, sometimes using ZAP. Don't know how many of those
>are still viable today.
>
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Just curious, is it possible and do some companies NOT use SMPe for z/OS 
software updates?
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WLM Couple dataset?

[Bill Giannelli]

Hi Rex,
No worries, I want my commination coherent if I am to get the answers I need. 
Please let me know how this response comes thru to you.with the rest of the 
thread, or not?
thanks
Bill 

On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 16:50:28 +, Pommier, Rex  
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>Thanks, Matthew.  
>
>Bill, if my initial post asking you to stop deleting the context came across 
>as rude, I apologize.  I didn't mean it that way, I didn't realize the 
>listserv web site automatically whacked the earlier parts of the thread by 
>default.
>
>Rex 
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>-Original Message-
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>I use the LISTSERV web site.  On the left there are two apostrophes (quote 
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>It is considered good practice to remove the IBM-MAIN stuff at the bottom.
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>On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 18:33:08 -0500, Tony Harminc  wrote:
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>>On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 18:27, Bill Giannelli  wrote:
>>
>>> I am in the listserv web page. I do not see 3 dots above the send 
>>> button
>>>
>>
>>Sorry - my advice was for Gmail only. I never use the listserv page to 
>>post things, so can't help you. But surely you aren't the only one, so 
>>perhaps someone will chime in.
>>
>>Tony H.
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We have axway, and have been told to use it for FTP.
I am trying to send doc to IBM and just need to FTP (or ftps).
What does axway do exactly?
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I apologize, it is inadvertent.
How do I include the whole thread?

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Re: WLM Couple dataset?

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not that makes sense to me...

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Re: WLM Couple dataset?

[Bill Giannelli]

we are being told by our managed service vendor they have to manually update 
the DR WLM Couple datasets. that they cant be mirrored..

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Re: WLM Couple dataset?

[Bill Giannelli]

yes I understand that. but we had policy definitions in PROD that were not 
copied over to DR.
We thought the WLM Couple dataset could be mirrored in our DR.
We are being told they have to be manually kept in synch now.
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Bill

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Re: WLM Couple dataset?

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thank you both!!

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WLM Couple dataset?

[Bill Giannelli]

where can I find what the WLM Couple dataset is?
we need a policy updated and then the WLM Couple Dataset mirrored in our DR.
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Re: how to determine if new DB2 ERLY code is in memory

[Bill Giannelli]

sorry for the stupid question, but where in the SYSLOG?
Does it give you module sizes?
How can you tell the "version" of the SDSNLINK load modules?
thanks
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how to determine if new DB2 ERLY code is in memory

[Bill Giannelli]

How do I determine what version of DB2 ERLY code modules are actually loaded in 
memory, not just copied into the libraries?
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

[Bill Giannelli]

It's a cultural, generational thing also. I'm surprised I havent been asked for 
a cell phone app!
Bill

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Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

[Bill Giannelli]

I agree!

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zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

[Bill Giannelli]

So I hope you all dont mind a general question...
We have the common struggle of dealing with non-mainframe developers accessing 
z/OS (programs, jobs, DB2) and an attitude that we need to leave the mainframe.
In trying to leverage our z/OS environment, might ZOWE (and the required zOSMF) 
provide a better transition and/or "access" to z/OS "processes"?
We do not have zOSMF and ZOWE implemented. I was wondering if it may be worth 
while to do so.
I hope my question makes sense.
thanks
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Re: CLIST for APF and link list datasets

[Bill Giannelli]

both those options fail for me. The IPLINFO displays some info then fails at 
"Call SPLIT_IPA_PAGE". The SHOWZOS is not found.
thanks
Bill

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Flashcopy dataset example

[Bill Giannelli]

hi rex,
yes we have those utilities.
But as far as your other questions, I have no idea. I am not a storage systems 
guy.
I think what I was after is the "dump" and "restore" commands.
thanks
Bill

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Re: Flashcopy dataset example

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I was looking for a point-in-time backup of a dataset

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Re: [External] : Flashcopy dataset example

[Bill Giannelli]

ok, that's scary!

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Re: [External] : Flashcopy dataset example

[Bill Giannelli]

thank you for your response.
But I was looking for copying by dataset name to a created backup dataset.
Also, to be able to specify a list of datasets to one backup dataset.
We used to do this with EMCSNAP.
But we have moved from EMC dasd to IBM.
thanks
Bill

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Flashcopy dataset example

[Bill Giannelli]

Can anyone provide an example on how to use flashcopy to copy, or backup, an 
individual dataset?
thanks
Bill

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Re: [EXTERNAL] CLIST for APF and link list datasets

[Bill Giannelli]

thank you all for your responses and feedback!
We dont have SDSF we have IOF.
I dont know if IOF has features to display things like APF authorizations.
thanks
Bill

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Re: Sv: CLIST for APF and link list datasets

[Bill Giannelli]

IT's MXI!
thank you
I couldnt remember..

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Re: [EXTERNAL] CLIST for APF and link list datasets

[Bill Giannelli]

no, it had a menu of almost all the entries in z/OS with APF and LLA amongst 
them. It might have been a third party software

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Re: CLIST for APF and link list datasets

[Bill Giannelli]

no, it's a clist executed via "TSO (clist name)"

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CLIST for APF and link list datasets

[Bill Giannelli]

I was shown a clist that had various options to display things like APFs and 
LLA, etc.
I am struggling to remember the clist name to run.
I am hoping this vague question sparks someone's memory.
does anyone know the clist?
thanks
Bill

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Re: how to read SMF data?

[Bill Giannelli]

thank you for your responses!
I just found out we have MXG!
doing google searches.
might you point me to a link and or manual on how to use MXG?
thanks
Bill

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Re: how to read SMF data?

[Bill Giannelli]

is MXG a pay for product?

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how to read SMF data?

[Bill Giannelli]

when getting SMF records how do you actually read the data / fields?
is there a common program/ job to access SMF data?
thanks
Bill

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Re: determine job that created dataset?

[Bill Giannelli]

Thank you for your response.
Might you know the IFCID and the field?

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DB2 DSNTRVFY WLM verify job stops WLM

[Bill Giannelli]

I am running the DB2 install job DSNTRVFY used to verify WLM Application 
Environments. It seems it stop some of my Application Environments. How could I 
find out why?
I am posting here after not getting any responses on DB2-L.
thanks for any help or direction.
Bill

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determine job that created dataset?

[Bill Giannelli]

Is there a way to determine what job created a dataset?
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how to read IFCID 0148 status codes

[Bill Giannelli]

we use BMC mainview / AMI OPS for Db2 and we have had an issue with threads 
showing a status of "ACT in NETW".
In order to get more information, I understand there are status codes in IFCID 
0148. How might I access IFCID 0148 records and reads those codes corresponding 
to those threads?
thanks
Bill

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dump command not fitting in console

[Bill Giannelli]

we have a dump request from IBM but the command with all the parameters is not 
fitting in the console command line.
any suggestions?
thanks
Bill

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AT-TLS change prevents shopz download

[Bill Giannelli]

We had AT-TLS modified to use a secured port for DB2 connection.
But now my SMPe receive via HTTPS is failing with the following:
EDC8121I Connection reset. (connect failed)

What needs to be changed in order to allow HTTPS download from IBM?
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Re: PE reason for SYSMODs

[Bill Giannelli]

I dont know what "service link" is, but I am able to open support cases and am 
able to sign on and order maintenance thru shopz.
When I try to click on a link from searching the apar I get a page mentioning 
passport advantage

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Re: PE reason for SYSMODs

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do you need "Passport Advantage" to see that?

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Re: PE reason for SYSMODs

[Bill Giannelli]

In the Global, when I display holddata, it shows the following:
++HOLD(UI77430) FMID(HDBCC10) REASON(AH45816) ERROR DATE(22110)
 COMMENT(SMRTDATA(CHGDT(220420))) CLASS(PE).

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Re: PE reason for SYSMODs

[Bill Giannelli]

Thank you for the help and information!
I am not particularly concerned just tracking things down..
The PTF is UI77430 which in the APPLY CHECK kicks out as PE.but on the IBM 
site it doesnt show as PE.
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Bill

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PE reason for SYSMODs

[Bill Giannelli]

When tracking PTFs that are PE, does the "REASON" code provide more 
information? Where might I see more information for a PE SYSMOD and when it 
might be corrected?
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Bill

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SMPe REPORT by APPLY date

[Bill Giannelli]

Is it possible to get a SMPe report in order of the date the sysmods were 
applied?
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Bill

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Re: SMPe ACCEPT process

[Bill Giannelli]

thank you all for your help!
Now i keep getting multiple GIM37905E errors

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SMPe ACCEPT process

[Bill Giannelli]

For my prior maintenance I have run an APPLY excluding several PTFs due to PEs 
and specified several bypass options.
But when running an ACCEPT do I run WITHOUT the excludes and the bypass?
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Bill

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requesting IBM DB2 enhancement

[Bill Giannelli]

what is the procedure to request an enhancement for Db2?
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Re: at what point does CICS signal Db2 that the thread is to be closed. Db2 will close the thread and write the accounting record.

[Bill Giannelli]

thank you for that information!
Are there any DB2 zParms that control CICS elapsed time reporting? like 
ACCUMMAC?

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at what point does CICS signal Db2 that the thread is to be closed. Db2 will close the thread and write the accounting record.

[Bill Giannelli]

This is a question about at what point does CICS signal Db2 that the thread is 
to be closed.  
Db2 will close the thread and write the accounting record. 

 

Situation:

 

DB2 SMF accounting records are showing subsecond Db2 time, and elapsed time of 
30-50 seconds. 

The caller is CICS, on the same LPAR. 

 

Db2 is waiting for something before the thread is closed. 

 

The possible candidates for the latency are:

VSAM

I/O subsystem

Network

 

DB2 systems programmer is trying to diagnose with the assistance of CICS 
Systems programmer.

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Re: clist substring command

[Bill Giannelli]

I am an idiot..because the code has a little comment at the 
top.REXX!

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Re: clist substring command

[Bill Giannelli]

it is not liking the syntax of that first command."invalid expression"

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clist substring command

[Bill Giannelli]

In a clist, how would I strip the first character from a system symbolic and 
create a variable ending in that character? For example, "ABC"

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DB2 rerunning install clist when applying maintenance

[Bill Giannelli]

When applying maintenance several sysmod hold data will say to rerun the 
install clist in order to get jcl updates, etc and to regenerate the jobs.
Should we run through it specifying "install" or "migrate" in order to get all 
jobs regenerated?
There really isnt an option in the clist for "maintenance".
thanks
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Re: SMF field data

[Bill Giannelli]

finally found out that I had a zparm accumuid set to 1 once I changed it to 0 
the data started showing up.
Bill

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Re: SMF field data

[Bill Giannelli]

It appears that these 2 fields, ENDUSERWN and ENDUSERWN_L in BMC (QWHCEUWN and 
QWHCEUWN_Var in SMF) are blank for all records from 2 of our LPARS for all DB2 
members on those LPARS.
The fields are populated from a third LPAR for all DB2 members on that LPAR.
I have not found any differences in the DB2 traces.
Is there something LPAR specific that would restrict this data?
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Bill

   

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