Re: RES: Messages Prefix

2014-03-29 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2014-03-28 18:30, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO pisze:

Charles,

Thanks for your feedback.
I was thinking in some other table, containing messages prefix, not products.
Something like ICH (RACF), HASP (JES2), SBL (BETA88) and so on.
For IBM proudcts and components most (not all) prefixes are described in 
a table in the MVS System Messages

chapter 1.3.
Note, the message prefix is in 99% (few exceptions apply) the same as 
prefix for modules prefix, some libraries HLQ, etc.
You will find there DFH, ADR, ICH, IRR, IKJ, IDC and many, many others. 
Few missing prefixes I just found: IOE, ABJ, CIU.

Why? My guess is trivial: neglect.

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Re: RES: Messages Prefix

2014-03-29 Thread Ed Gould

Radosla:

It is probably worth a RCF, no?

Ed

On Mar 29, 2014, at 7:28 AM, R.S. wrote:


W dniu 2014-03-28 18:30, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO pisze:

Charles,

Thanks for your feedback.
I was thinking in some other table, containing messages prefix,  
not products.

Something like ICH (RACF), HASP (JES2), SBL (BETA88) and so on.
For IBM proudcts and components most (not all) prefixes are  
described in a table in the MVS System Messages

chapter 1.3.
Note, the message prefix is in 99% (few exceptions apply) the same  
as prefix for modules prefix, some libraries HLQ, etc.
You will find there DFH, ADR, ICH, IRR, IKJ, IDC and many, many  
others. Few missing prefixes I just found: IOE, ABJ, CIU.

Why? My guess is trivial: neglect.

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Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione  
Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata.  
Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu  
osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości  
lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi,  
informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie  
lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i  
może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo,  
prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź  
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RES: Messages Prefix

2014-03-28 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Charles,

Thanks for your feedback.
I was thinking in some other table, containing messages prefix, not products.
Something like ICH (RACF), HASP (JES2), SBL (BETA88) and so on.

Every time I try to open a new thread i got an error, and I still don't know 
why,
but responding works fine. I'll try to figure it out.

Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos

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De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Em nome de 
Charles Mills
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 28 de março de 2014 12:20
Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Assunto: Re: Messages Prefix

Chicago-Soft (with which I am not affiliated) publishes a reference to all (for 
some values of all LOL) IBM and vendor messages.

http://quickref.com/newQuickRef/helpdocs/help?thisDoc=isvmessages7.8

If you think about it, the all requirement is an impossible standard. If such 
a table existed, I could bring out a new product tomorrow and the table would 
no longer contain all messages.

BTW, you should start a new thread, not reply to an existing e-mail. There is a 
thread identifier buried inside an e-mail and some e-mail clients group 
messages based on that identifier.

Charles

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Subject: Messages Prefix

Hi all,

Does any of you know if there is a message prefix table, regarding all IBM and 
ISV products ?
I've tried to Google it but didn't find out specifically what is wanted.

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Re: RES: Messages Prefix

2014-03-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO wrote:

I was thinking in some other table, containing messages prefix, not products. 
Something like ICH (RACF), HASP (JES2), SBL (BETA88) and so on. 

Look in Relating component ID to component name, module prefix, and product 
in book
MVS Diagnosis: Reference.

This one should help you in a way for IBM software. I believe someone said on 
IBM-MAIN that IBM reserves the first letter of the prefix for themself and 
other vendors should rather use other unreserved letter.

HTH!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: RES: Messages Prefix

2014-03-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 March 2014 14:00, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
 Look in Relating component ID to component name, module prefix, and product 
 in book
 MVS Diagnosis: Reference.

 This one should help you in a way for IBM software. I believe someone said on 
 IBM-MAIN that IBM reserves the first letter of the prefix for themself and 
 other vendors should rather use other unreserved letter.

In theory IBM owns all prefixes starting with A to I, and also Q,
and the rest are for ISVs,customers, etc. IBM operates a registration
service for these prefixes, but many ISVs, and on occasion IBM itself,
do not follow the rules.

Tony H.

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