Re: Model9 is now backed by Intel Capital
Gil Peleg wrote: >In my understanding all the products and offerings you >listed consider cloud storage as an additional tier on top of tape, while >Model9 is in a different segment of the storage market where cloud storage >is considered an alternative to tape and as a mean for enabling direct >access to mainframe data from cloud applications (and all cloud providers >support storing the data on tape when appropriate). That's not my understanding. To my knowledge all of the products I listed are physical tape "agnostic." You can have physical tape drives/cartridges on premises or not, per whatever requirements you have. As for "enabling direct access to mainframe data from cloud applications," I don't think you're providing "direct" access to mainframe data. You're actually facilitating access to time lagged mainframe data (i.e. a replicated copy), with lots of considerations to take into account of course, including security considerations. "Cloud data replication" (and synchronization) is a competitive market segment and definitely not a new one. There are various fundamental, growing concerns and challenges with additional data copies. To get direct access to *live* mainframe data from cloud applications (which could be running on IBM Z machines too of course) the typical solution pattern involves data virtualization, and that's a competitive market segment, too. IBM Data Virtualization Manager for z/OS is an example of a product squarely in that category. Data virtualization and data replication are not mutually exclusive. By the way, I should have included z/VSE's VTAPE in my previous list of examples. IBM introduced VTAPE in VSE/ESA 2.6 (generally available on December 14, 2001) and has considerably enhanced it subsequently. It might have even been backported to earlier VSE/ESA releases. VTAPE is available at no additional charge to VSE/ESA and z/VSE licensees. See the relevant links on this page for details: https://www.ibm.com/it-infrastructure/z/zvse-downloads There are some z/VSE VTAPE compatible utilities available for z/OS here: http://www.cbttape.org/awstape.htm z/VSE VTAPE is interoperable with Encryption Facility for z/VSE and with IBM Spectrum Protect (and its predecessor Tivoli Storage Manager). - - - - - - - - - - Timothy Sipples I.T. Architect Executive Digital Asset & Other Industry Solutions IBM Z & LinuxONE - - - - - - - - - - E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Model9 is now backed by Intel Capital
Hi Timothy, Thanks for the list. In my understanding all the products and offerings you listed consider cloud storage as an additional tier on top of tape, while Model9 is in a different segment of the storage market where cloud storage is considered an alternative to tape and as a mean for enabling direct access to mainframe data from cloud applications (and all cloud providers support storing the data on tape when appropriate). Gil Model9 | https://www.model9.io On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 4:28 AM Timothy Sipples wrote: > For the record, this segment of the storage market is quite competitive. > Examples of other products and offerings include: > > IBM Cloud Tape Connector for z/OS > IBM DS8880/DS8900 and z/OS DFSMShsm Transparent Cloud Tiering > RecoveryPoint z/Archive (which uses the previous one) > Luminex CloudTAPE > Compuware (Innovation Data Processing) CloudVTB > Dell EMC DLm > > ...and that's very likely not a complete list. > > - - - - - - - - - - > Timothy Sipples > I.T. Architect Executive > Digital Asset & Other Industry Solutions > IBM Z & LinuxONE > - - - - - - - - - - > E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Model9 is now backed by Intel Capital
For the record, this segment of the storage market is quite competitive. Examples of other products and offerings include: IBM Cloud Tape Connector for z/OS IBM DS8880/DS8900 and z/OS DFSMShsm Transparent Cloud Tiering RecoveryPoint z/Archive (which uses the previous one) Luminex CloudTAPE Compuware (Innovation Data Processing) CloudVTB Dell EMC DLm ...and that's very likely not a complete list. - - - - - - - - - - Timothy Sipples I.T. Architect Executive Digital Asset & Other Industry Solutions IBM Z & LinuxONE - - - - - - - - - - E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Model9 is now backed by Intel Capital
Hey David, Yes, you are correct, it's a Java solution. We have a real cool patented technology, no tricks :) Adi Shtatfeld VP Product & Customer Success, Model 9 Software m: +972-54-4992774 e:adi.shtatf...@model9.io w:www.model9.io On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 4:39 PM David Crayford wrote: > So if it's running on zIIP does that mean it's a Java solution or are > you doing some tricky magic? > > On 2020-02-14 10:35 PM, Adi Shtatfeld wrote: > > Hi John, Thank you for your comment. > > One of our key differentiators is that our product allows you to save to > > cloud any kind of data from the mainframe, whether it's data sets (VSAM, > > PS, PDS, SMF) or databases (e.g. DB2). We can utilize any public and/or > > private cloud as secondary storage, costing less than traditional tape > > solutions. Transferring the data is not heavy on the mainframe, over 90% > of > > our CPU consumption is zIIP. > > Best regards, > > Adi > > > > > > Adi Shtatfeld > > > > VP Product & Customer Success, Model 9 Software > > > > m: +972-54-4992774 e:adi.shtatf...@model9.io w:www.model9.io > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:57 PM John Abell < > > john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> wrote: > > > >> Interesting but we have been doing this for CA IDMS database data for a > >> few years now. Data is synchronized as near to real-time as is > possible. > >> i.e. transaction end or commit. > >> > >> John T. Abell > >> Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 > >> President > >> International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 > >> E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com > >> Fax:800-295-7609 > >> > >> International: 1-416-593-5579 > >> > >> > >> International Software Products > >> www.ispinfo.com > >> > >> This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole > >> use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, > distribution > >> or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the > intended > >> recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), > >> please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this > >> message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, > >> tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive > >> emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, > >> interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence > thereof. > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On > >> Behalf Of Adi Shtatfeld > >> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:37 AM > >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > >> Subject: Model9 is now backed by Intel Capital > >> > >> > >> > https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/12/model9-gets-9m-series-a-to-move-data-between-mainframes-and-cloud/ > >> > >> > >> Adi Shtatfeld > >> > >> VP Product & Customer Success, Model 9 Software > >> > >> m: +972-54-4992774 e:adi.shtatf...@model9.io w:www.model9.io > >> > >> -- > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email > >> to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >> > >> -- > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >> > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Model9 is now backed by Intel Capital
So if it's running on zIIP does that mean it's a Java solution or are you doing some tricky magic? On 2020-02-14 10:35 PM, Adi Shtatfeld wrote: Hi John, Thank you for your comment. One of our key differentiators is that our product allows you to save to cloud any kind of data from the mainframe, whether it's data sets (VSAM, PS, PDS, SMF) or databases (e.g. DB2). We can utilize any public and/or private cloud as secondary storage, costing less than traditional tape solutions. Transferring the data is not heavy on the mainframe, over 90% of our CPU consumption is zIIP. Best regards, Adi Adi Shtatfeld VP Product & Customer Success, Model 9 Software m: +972-54-4992774 e:adi.shtatf...@model9.io w:www.model9.io On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:57 PM John Abell < john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> wrote: Interesting but we have been doing this for CA IDMS database data for a few years now. Data is synchronized as near to real-time as is possible. i.e. transaction end or commit. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Adi Shtatfeld Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Model9 is now backed by Intel Capital https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/12/model9-gets-9m-series-a-to-move-data-between-mainframes-and-cloud/ Adi Shtatfeld VP Product & Customer Success, Model 9 Software m: +972-54-4992774 e:adi.shtatf...@model9.io w:www.model9.io -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Model9 is now backed by Intel Capital
Hi John, Thank you for your comment. One of our key differentiators is that our product allows you to save to cloud any kind of data from the mainframe, whether it's data sets (VSAM, PS, PDS, SMF) or databases (e.g. DB2). We can utilize any public and/or private cloud as secondary storage, costing less than traditional tape solutions. Transferring the data is not heavy on the mainframe, over 90% of our CPU consumption is zIIP. Best regards, Adi Adi Shtatfeld VP Product & Customer Success, Model 9 Software m: +972-54-4992774 e:adi.shtatf...@model9.io w:www.model9.io On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:57 PM John Abell < john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> wrote: > Interesting but we have been doing this for CA IDMS database data for a > few years now. Data is synchronized as near to real-time as is possible. > i.e. transaction end or commit. > > John T. Abell > Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 > President > International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 > E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com > Fax:800-295-7609 > > International: 1-416-593-5579 > > > International Software Products > www.ispinfo.com > > This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole > use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution > or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), > please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this > message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, > tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive > emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, > interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Adi Shtatfeld > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:37 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Model9 is now backed by Intel Capital > > > https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/12/model9-gets-9m-series-a-to-move-data-between-mainframes-and-cloud/ > > > Adi Shtatfeld > > VP Product & Customer Success, Model 9 Software > > m: +972-54-4992774 e:adi.shtatf...@model9.io w:www.model9.io > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Model9 is now backed by Intel Capital
Interesting but we have been doing this for CA IDMS database data for a few years now. Data is synchronized as near to real-time as is possible. i.e. transaction end or commit. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Adi Shtatfeld Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Model9 is now backed by Intel Capital https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/12/model9-gets-9m-series-a-to-move-data-between-mainframes-and-cloud/ Adi Shtatfeld VP Product & Customer Success, Model 9 Software m: +972-54-4992774 e:adi.shtatf...@model9.io w:www.model9.io -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
