Re: SMS Data Class attribute Extended
My fault, I forgot about SMF and (mis)understood you want to examine datasets itself. Now I see, you wrote about SMF. To busy... -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 01.07.2020 o 14:19, PINION, RICHARD W. pisze: Are saying that I can't find that kind of information from the SMF Type 14/15 records? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS Data Class attribute Extended [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] W dniu 30.06.2020 o 21:53, PINION, RICHARD W. pisze: We are attempting, on our QA LPAR, to use the SMS DC attributes, Data Set Name Type . . . . . : EXTENDED If Extended . . . . . . . . : PREFERRED Extended Addressability . . : YES for all of our sequential data sets. Of several hundred/thousands of dataset allocations, during the test period, we ran into 4 ABENDS, 3 S213-94 and 1 S213-B8. Which is pretty good, in my opinion. IEC143I 213-94 - An OPEN macro instruction was attempted against an extended-format data set, but the access method is not BSAM or QSAM, or is BDAM load mode. IEC143I 213-B8 - An OPEN was attempted against an extended-format data set with a DCB that specified EXCP. EXCP is not supported for extended-format data sets. I would like to examine our SMF 14/15 records from our production LPAR to identify other potential problem datasets. I have an ancient user written assembler program, 1980's, that reports on SMF 14/15 records. One of the reported columns is MACREF, which has a test for EXCP processing. If it was EXCP processing, the record is reported with an "E" for that column. I'm able to see all 14/15 activity that has activity for EXCP processing. However, I noticed that SORT and ICEGENER use EXCP processing. We didn't have any ABENDS with SORT or ICEGENER. Two questions, 1) In addition to my ancient assembler program, can anyone recommend a free reporting tool, that we could use to identify datasets not eligible for EXT format, and 2) Why does SORT/ICEGENER work against EXT type datasets with EXCP process? 1. I think you ask about programs, not datasets. No tool can recognize how the dataset will be or would be used in the future or was used in the past. 2. As Shmuel said there are nuances here. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMS Data Class attribute Extended
Are saying that I can't find that kind of information from the SMF Type 14/15 records? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS Data Class attribute Extended [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] W dniu 30.06.2020 o 21:53, PINION, RICHARD W. pisze: > We are attempting, on our QA LPAR, to use the SMS DC attributes, > > Data Set Name Type . . . . . : EXTENDED >If Extended . . . . . . . . : PREFERRED >Extended Addressability . . : YES > > for all of our sequential data sets. Of several hundred/thousands of > dataset allocations, during the test period, we ran into 4 ABENDS, 3 S213-94 > and 1 S213-B8. Which is pretty good, in my opinion. > > IEC143I 213-94 - An OPEN macro instruction was attempted against an > extended-format data set, but the access method is not BSAM or QSAM, or is > BDAM load mode. > > IEC143I 213-B8 - An OPEN was attempted against an extended-format data set > with a DCB that specified EXCP. EXCP is not supported for extended-format > data sets. > > I would like to examine our SMF 14/15 records from our production LPAR > to identify other potential problem datasets. I have an ancient user > written assembler program, 1980's, that reports on SMF 14/15 records. > One of the reported columns is MACREF, which has a test for EXCP processing. > If it was EXCP processing, the record is reported with an "E" for that > column. I'm able to see all 14/15 activity that has activity for EXCP > processing. > However, I noticed that SORT and ICEGENER use EXCP processing. We didn't > have any ABENDS with SORT > or ICEGENER. > > Two questions, 1) In addition to my ancient assembler program, can anyone > recommend a free reporting tool, > that we could use to identify datasets not eligible for EXT format, > and 2) Why does SORT/ICEGENER work against EXT type datasets with EXCP > process? 1. I think you ask about programs, not datasets. No tool can recognize how the dataset will be or would be used in the future or was used in the past. 2. As Shmuel said there are nuances here. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this e-mail message from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMS Data Class attribute Extended
W dniu 30.06.2020 o 21:53, PINION, RICHARD W. pisze: We are attempting, on our QA LPAR, to use the SMS DC attributes, Data Set Name Type . . . . . : EXTENDED If Extended . . . . . . . . : PREFERRED Extended Addressability . . : YES for all of our sequential data sets. Of several hundred/thousands of dataset allocations, during the test period, we ran into 4 ABENDS, 3 S213-94 and 1 S213-B8. Which is pretty good, in my opinion. IEC143I 213-94 - An OPEN macro instruction was attempted against an extended-format data set, but the access method is not BSAM or QSAM, or is BDAM load mode. IEC143I 213-B8 - An OPEN was attempted against an extended-format data set with a DCB that specified EXCP. EXCP is not supported for extended-format data sets. I would like to examine our SMF 14/15 records from our production LPAR to identify other potential problem datasets. I have an ancient user written assembler program, 1980's, that reports on SMF 14/15 records. One of the reported columns is MACREF, which has a test for EXCP processing. If it was EXCP processing, the record is reported with an "E" for that column. I'm able to see all 14/15 activity that has activity for EXCP processing. However, I noticed that SORT and ICEGENER use EXCP processing. We didn't have any ABENDS with SORT or ICEGENER. Two questions, 1) In addition to my ancient assembler program, can anyone recommend a free reporting tool, that we could use to identify datasets not eligible for EXT format, and 2) Why does SORT/ICEGENER work against EXT type datasets with EXCP process? 1. I think you ask about programs, not datasets. No tool can recognize how the dataset will be or would be used in the future or was used in the past. 2. As Shmuel said there are nuances here. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMS Data Class attribute Extended
> IEC143I 213-B8 - An OPEN was attempted against an extended-format data set > with a DCB that specified EXCP. EXCP is not supported for extended-format > data sets. That message text is in error. EXCP is supported, but you must have an appropriate DCBE. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of PINION, RICHARD W. [rpin...@firsthorizon.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 3:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMS Data Class attribute Extended We are attempting, on our QA LPAR, to use the SMS DC attributes, Data Set Name Type . . . . . : EXTENDED If Extended . . . . . . . . : PREFERRED Extended Addressability . . : YES for all of our sequential data sets. Of several hundred/thousands of dataset allocations, during the test period, we ran into 4 ABENDS, 3 S213-94 and 1 S213-B8. Which is pretty good, in my opinion. IEC143I 213-94 - An OPEN macro instruction was attempted against an extended-format data set, but the access method is not BSAM or QSAM, or is BDAM load mode. IEC143I 213-B8 - An OPEN was attempted against an extended-format data set with a DCB that specified EXCP. EXCP is not supported for extended-format data sets. I would like to examine our SMF 14/15 records from our production LPAR to identify other potential problem datasets. I have an ancient user written assembler program, 1980's, that reports on SMF 14/15 records. One of the reported columns is MACREF, which has a test for EXCP processing. If it was EXCP processing, the record is reported with an "E" for that column. I'm able to see all 14/15 activity that has activity for EXCP processing. However, I noticed that SORT and ICEGENER use EXCP processing. We didn't have any ABENDS with SORT or ICEGENER. Two questions, 1) In addition to my ancient assembler program, can anyone recommend a free reporting tool, that we could use to identify datasets not eligible for EXT format, and 2) Why does SORT/ICEGENER work against EXT type datasets with EXCP process? Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this e-mail message from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
SMS Data Class attribute Extended
We are attempting, on our QA LPAR, to use the SMS DC attributes, Data Set Name Type . . . . . : EXTENDED If Extended . . . . . . . . : PREFERRED Extended Addressability . . : YES for all of our sequential data sets. Of several hundred/thousands of dataset allocations, during the test period, we ran into 4 ABENDS, 3 S213-94 and 1 S213-B8. Which is pretty good, in my opinion. IEC143I 213-94 - An OPEN macro instruction was attempted against an extended-format data set, but the access method is not BSAM or QSAM, or is BDAM load mode. IEC143I 213-B8 - An OPEN was attempted against an extended-format data set with a DCB that specified EXCP. EXCP is not supported for extended-format data sets. I would like to examine our SMF 14/15 records from our production LPAR to identify other potential problem datasets. I have an ancient user written assembler program, 1980's, that reports on SMF 14/15 records. One of the reported columns is MACREF, which has a test for EXCP processing. If it was EXCP processing, the record is reported with an "E" for that column. I'm able to see all 14/15 activity that has activity for EXCP processing. However, I noticed that SORT and ICEGENER use EXCP processing. We didn't have any ABENDS with SORT or ICEGENER. Two questions, 1) In addition to my ancient assembler program, can anyone recommend a free reporting tool, that we could use to identify datasets not eligible for EXT format, and 2) Why does SORT/ICEGENER work against EXT type datasets with EXCP process? Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this e-mail message from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
