Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:54:24 +, J R wrote: >The PDS gotchas described in this thread have existed since Christ was a >cowboy. Yes, something should have been done about it since the first cha was >got. However, given that that eventuality never came to pass, what amazes me >most is that i

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-19 Thread J R
The PDS gotchas described in this thread have existed since Christ was a cowboy. Yes, something should have been done about it since the first cha was got. However, given that that eventuality never came to pass, what amazes me most is that it's still such a hot topic fifty years later! Doe

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-19 Thread retired mainframer
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 6:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption > > Please answer one burning question. When SYSPRINT went to the PDS, was a member > name specified? > > . > . > . > J.O.Skip Rob

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-19 Thread Rupert Reynolds
I can see an obvious need to avoid corruption of the directory. Yet there is (or was) valid code (using BLKSIZE=256 from memory) to access a PDS directly. And wasn't IEBGENER with a dummy SYSUT1 used to repair the DSORG=PO of a PDS damaged in this way? So I think it would be difficult to make sens

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-19 Thread פנינה קוניגסברג
...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ? ? Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 2:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption Thanks so much

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-19 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ? ? Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 2:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption Thanks so much Lizette and Lionel. In my case, it was

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-19 Thread פנינה קוניגסברג
ist [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption Cool. I will see if I can append to the RFE. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 14:39:24 -0700, retired mainframer wrote: >Won't that break at least one of the CBT utilities that resets or extends >the PDS directory by writing to it directly? > And the world would be better for it. Think of all the resource spent in data centers by programmers recovering

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-17 Thread J R
Doh! That wouldn't work for extending the directory! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2016, at 17:48, J R wrote: > > They should be using DSORG=DA and OPENing for UPDATE. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 17, 2016, at 17:39, retired mainframer >> wrote: >> >> Won't that break at leas

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-17 Thread J R
They should be using DSORG=DA and OPENing for UPDATE. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2016, at 17:39, retired mainframer > wrote: > > Won't that break at least one of the CBT utilities that resets or extends > the PDS directory by writing to it directly?

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-17 Thread retired mainframer
17, 2016 9:02 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption > > I like the idea of the RFE but could I suggest broadening it to all BSAM/QSAM since any > program that writes output could do the same thing. Put the test in the ac

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
ng > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:59 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corrupt

Re: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption

2016-06-17 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
n Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] RFE opened on IEBGENER and PDS Corruption After the discussion this week on recovering a PDS after IEBGENER was used without a member on SYSUT2, I went ahead and opened the followin