We did...  Had several discussions on TRUNC and various other options in the 
compiler/runtime.  Plenty of heartburn.

Rex

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Steve Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 12:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: A question or two on zOS issues

Glad to hear that someone followed all the rules so that, unannounced COBOL 5+ 
didn't cause you packed decimal problems with Truncation and the like. Or same 
thing with binary.

Steve Thompson

On 3/27/2023 10:31 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote:
> The last time we mass-converted and recompiled our COBOL was from OS/VS COBOL 
> to VS COBOL II in 1992. Since then we've migrated our 7 million lines of 
> COBOL code...
>
> - 1998 Language Environment
> - 2000 COBOL for MVS & VM
> - 2003 COBOL for OS/390 & VM
> - 2004 COBOL for z/OS & OS/390 3.2
> - 2005  3.3
> - 2006  3.4
> - 2011  4.2
> - 2020  6.2
>
> By doing... nothing.
>
> The hardest part of going to IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS 6 was the PDSE 
> requirement for load modules.
>
>
> So, in my experience, we don't need to know when our COBOL programs were last 
> used. And we already have tools that give us the compile date and version, 
> both from IBM and home grown.
>
> We still have a large number of programs that haven't been recompiled since 
> the VS COBOL II migration. They coexist just fine.
>
> (You may have to *relink* to pick up the Language Environment 
> bootstrap programs)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 
> Behalf Of Steve Pryor
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 1:39 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: A question or two on zOS issues
>
> There are a couple of pressing issues in z/OS that I'm sure many folks are 
> aware of but about which there doesn't seem to be much being done. I'm 
> curious as to what other IBM-MAINer's thoughts might be. Specifically, I'm 
> talking about:
>
> 1.) migration to IBM's latest COBOL release, and
>
> 2.) the not-really-that-far-off issue of Year 2042
>
> I've been asked several times recently whether we (a z/OS ISV) should 
> consider developing products to address these issues. Frankly, though, I live 
> in an ivory tower and while I sometime *think* I know what installations 
> problems and needs are, I'm usually surprised to find that reality is quite 
> different. So I'd like to throw a couple of questions out to the list for 
> comment:
>
> 1.) Would a reporting utility that determined which COBOL programs were 
> executed (and which ones weren't), and what release and options they were 
> compiled with be significantly helpful in a COBOL migration? What other 
> features would be nice to have? Or is this a low priority for most 
> installations, who are perhaps trying to justify keeping the mainframe alive 
> and/or conducting business as usual, let alone doing a COBOL migration 
> project?
>
> 2.) It's rather shocking that 2042 is so close and not much seems to be 
> happening. We are one of the vendors that have a date-simulation utility, but 
> we don’t know if data centers have any near-term plans for 2042. Would it be 
> worthwhile to have a 2042 date-simulation product now, or is everyone going 
> to cross their fingers and try to use a test LPAR once the operating system 
> fully supports 2042 dates?
>
> Thanks for any comments and insight the IBM-MAIN hive mind might have.
>
> Steve Pryor
> CTO
> DTS Software, LLC
>
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