Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IP printing from JES2?

2018-05-22 Thread Don Poitras
In article <6921821729008793.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu> you wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2018 13:55:50 +, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote:
> >See this
> >https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.aopu000/lpruse.htm
> > 
> Some Windows systems provide an LPR command, ...
> That appears to be a (some) Windows command whereas the OP wanted JES2.
> On Mon, 21 May 2018 19:13:52 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote:
> >Is there any non-cost solutions built within z/OS 1.13 to print from
> >JES2 to basic IP printers?
> Is Infoprint "non-cost" or separately priced?
> On Tue, 22 May 2018 10:28:20 -0400, Don Poitras wrote:
> >
> >I used ISRDDN to see where it lives and found it in a TCP dataset, so
> >I looked in the comm mgr books and found it:
> >
> >https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.halu001/lpr.htm
> >
> That's a heck of a yellow brick road to follow to documentation.
> -- gil

Well, if you just type in "LPR" at the 2.3 search box, it's the 9th
hit. It would be nice if the search results listed the path to the
book. e.g. 

z/OS Communications Server > z/OS Communcations Server: IP Users's Guide and 
Commands > Using remote printing >

and then if you could sort the search results by that path it would
even be more usefull. i.e. knowing the hierarchy would let me pick
a result that's more likely what I'm looking for rather than a bunch
of stuff down in the weeds.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IP printing from JES2?

2018-05-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 22 May 2018 13:55:50 +, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote:

>See this
>https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.aopu000/lpruse.htm
> 
Some Windows systems provide an LPR command, ...

That appears to be a (some) Windows command whereas the OP wanted JES2.

On Mon, 21 May 2018 19:13:52 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote:

>Is there any non-cost solutions built within z/OS 1.13 to print from
>JES2 to basic IP printers?

Is Infoprint "non-cost" or separately priced?

On Tue, 22 May 2018 10:28:20 -0400, Don Poitras wrote:
>
>I used ISRDDN to see where it lives and found it in a TCP dataset, so
>I looked in the comm mgr books and found it:
>
>https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.halu001/lpr.htm
>
That's a heck of a yellow brick road to follow to documentation.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IP printing from JES2?

2018-05-22 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
In case the link gets wrecked by Microsoft protection... I'm referring to the 
product SyzSPOOLz.

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Speaking of JES2 to plaintext... http://www.syzygyinc.com/SyzSPOOLz.htm
Pretty neat pricing too (I think?)

– Vignesh
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IP printing from JES2?

We are going to look at IP NETWORK PRINT FACILITY since it is part of 
Communications Server.

Tony Thigpen

Tony Thigpen wrote on 05/22/2018 08:15 AM:
> Just to move it up a notch.
>
> First, this is for batch reports.
>
> The customer already already has a complex print solution, but over 
> the years has converted most of the advanced functions to a PC server 
> based process. That PC server looks like a simple printer and only 
> needs simple CR/LF type date.
>
> The have slowly been changing all the printers used by their 
> high-priced z/OS software to just a couple of simple LPR printers and 
> not AFP or PCL based. So, now all they really need is a simple JES2 to 
> printer solution so they can eliminate the high cost software.
>
> Although JCL changes will be required, they want to limit it to just 
> the OUTPUT cards.
>
> In fact, if they could have just a simple JES2 to FTP plain text 
> function, that would be even cleaner considering their PC software.
>
> Tony Thigpen
>
> Tom Conley wrote on 05/22/2018 07:27 AM:
>> On 5/21/2018 7:12 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
>>> Is there any non-cost solutions built within z/OS 1.13 to print from
>>> JES2 to basic IP printers?
>>>
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> You can print to IP printers no problem.  The issue comes in when you 
>> have to convert that 3270 printer stream to PCL for the HP LaserJet 
>> on your desk.  That's where the monay comes in.  If you have the 
>> ADCD, you can use the InfoPrint Server.  I did a Bit Bucket a few 
>> SHAREs back showing how to set that up.  Other than that, you have 
>> the usual suspects, VPS, MacKinney, etc.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tom Conley
>>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IP printing from JES2?

2018-05-22 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Speaking of JES2 to plaintext... http://www.syzygyinc.com/SyzSPOOLz.htm
Pretty neat pricing too (I think?)

– Vignesh
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: 22 May 2018 15:08
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IP printing from JES2?

We are going to look at IP NETWORK PRINT FACILITY since it is part of 
Communications Server.

Tony Thigpen

Tony Thigpen wrote on 05/22/2018 08:15 AM:
> Just to move it up a notch.
>
> First, this is for batch reports.
>
> The customer already already has a complex print solution, but over
> the years has converted most of the advanced functions to a PC server
> based process. That PC server looks like a simple printer and only
> needs simple CR/LF type date.
>
> The have slowly been changing all the printers used by their
> high-priced z/OS software to just a couple of simple LPR printers and
> not AFP or PCL based. So, now all they really need is a simple JES2 to
> printer solution so they can eliminate the high cost software.
>
> Although JCL changes will be required, they want to limit it to just
> the OUTPUT cards.
>
> In fact, if they could have just a simple JES2 to FTP plain text
> function, that would be even cleaner considering their PC software.
>
> Tony Thigpen
>
> Tom Conley wrote on 05/22/2018 07:27 AM:
>> On 5/21/2018 7:12 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
>>> Is there any non-cost solutions built within z/OS 1.13 to print from
>>> JES2 to basic IP printers?
>>>
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> You can print to IP printers no problem.  The issue comes in when you
>> have to convert that 3270 printer stream to PCL for the HP LaserJet
>> on your desk.  That's where the monay comes in.  If you have the
>> ADCD, you can use the InfoPrint Server.  I did a Bit Bucket a few
>> SHAREs back showing how to set that up.  Other than that, you have
>> the usual suspects, VPS, MacKinney, etc.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tom Conley
>>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IP printing from JES2?

2018-05-22 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
See this

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.aopu000/lpruse.htm

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IP printing from JES2?

On Tue, 22 May 2018 11:04:11 +, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote:

>Take a look at the TSO LPR command 
> 
I used to know that command, but I don't find it in:
z/OS IBM  TSO/E Command Reference  Version 2 Release 3  SA32-0975-30

>I've an ispf dialog to simplify using it at http://lbdsoftware.com/print.zip

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