Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

2017-11-20 Thread Anthony Thompson
You might look at SMF record 65's (catalogue delete) to find out what process 
is messing with your GDG's.

Ant.

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The MC is set to EXPIRE. And that's the other strange thing, not all GDGs that 
share the MC have the same problem.


Hervey



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GDS=EXPIRED vs GDS=MIGRATE in the SMS management class?

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Well, all files that I've seen are GDG files. This is very puzzling. There are 
a few of these errors that happen every so often but have no idea what is 
causing them.


Hervey



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Non-symetric aliases? i.e. alias A in MCATA, but not in MCATB

See message arc1220I RC=98 for explanation.

Basically get down to one copy of the dataset (whether it is the migrated copy 
or the "real" dataset).
This will resolve the issue.

As to why, there are too many variables to spend a great deal of time 
speculating.

HTH,

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We have several datasets that show up in HSM's miglog file. I know the problem 
is that the file is not cataloged and is the reason for the error. My question 
is: What causes these files to become uncataloged?

I've read a few other posts about the HSM address space being cancelled due to 
errors and causing this sort of error. We only recycle HSM during maintenance 
on the weekends and many of these errors happen during the week which does not 
coincide with the recycling of the HSM task.

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Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

2017-11-20 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
There has always been a general restriction that SMS managed data sets must be 
cataloged. If you try to uncatalog an SMS data set, it will (should?) fail. 

In our shop, tape data sets are not SMS managed, so we can (and do) keep some 
uncataloged data sets indefinitely. CA-1 made that fairly easy. RMM was 
initially quite unhappy with uncataloged data sets but has since negotiated an 
uneasy peace. 

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On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:03:15 -0600, John McKown wrote:
>
>​Oh, I've had that problem. Look at the GDG base in the catalog. Make 
>sure that it says "SCRATCH". Otherwise the GDG data set entry will "roll off"
>the GDG, but the data set will not be scratched from the volume. I had 
>a big problem with this when programmers were allowed to create their 
>own GDGs and they _never_ put the SCRATCH parameter on the DEFINE GDG. 
>Why the bleeding  IBM made the default NOSCRATCH is a mystery 
>know to none at this point.​
> 
It appears that the GDG designers, the SMS designers, and the catalog designers 
don't coordinate very well with each other.  Otherwise, SMS strives mightily to 
avoid orphaned data sets.

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Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

2017-11-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:03:15 -0600, John McKown wrote:
>
>​Oh, I've had that problem. Look at the GDG base in the catalog. Make sure
>that it says "SCRATCH". Otherwise the GDG data set entry will "roll off"
>the GDG, but the data set will not be scratched from the volume. I had a
>big problem with this when programmers were allowed to create their own
>GDGs and they _never_ put the SCRATCH parameter on the DEFINE GDG. Why the
>bleeding  IBM made the default NOSCRATCH is a mystery know to none
>at this point.​
> 
It appears that the GDG designers, the SMS designers, and the catalog designers
don't coordinate very well with each other.  Otherwise, SMS strives mightily
to avoid orphaned data sets.

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Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

2017-11-20 Thread Hervey Martinez
The MC is set to EXPIRE. And that's the other strange thing, not all GDGs that 
share the MC have the same problem.


Hervey



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GDS=EXPIRED vs GDS=MIGRATE in the SMS management class?

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Well, all files that I've seen are GDG files. This is very puzzling. There are 
a few of these errors that happen every so often but have no idea what is 
causing them.


Hervey



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Subject: Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

Non-symetric aliases? i.e. alias A in MCATA, but not in MCATB

See message arc1220I RC=98 for explanation.

Basically get down to one copy of the dataset (whether it is the migrated copy 
or the "real" dataset).
This will resolve the issue.

As to why, there are too many variables to spend a great deal of time 
speculating.

HTH,

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We have several datasets that show up in HSM's miglog file. I know the problem 
is that the file is not cataloged and is the reason for the error. My question 
is: What causes these files to become uncataloged?

I've read a few other posts about the HSM address space being cancelled due to 
errors and causing this sort of error. We only recycle HSM during maintenance 
on the weekends and many of these errors happen during the week which does not 
coincide with the recycling of the HSM task.

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Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

2017-11-20 Thread Hervey Martinez
Yes, that was my initial thought but all GDGs that I've seen have the SCRATCH 
parm.



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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Hervey Martinez <hervey...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Well, all files that I've seen are GDG files. This is very puzzling. There
> are a few of these errors that happen every so often but have no idea what
> is causing them.
>

Oh, I've had that problem. Look at the GDG base in the catalog. Make sure
that it says "SCRATCH". Otherwise the GDG data set entry will "roll off"
the GDG, but the data set will not be scratched from the volume. I had a
big problem with this when programmers were allowed to create their own
GDGs and they _never_ put the SCRATCH parameter on the DEFINE GDG. Why the
bleeding  IBM made the default NOSCRATCH is a mystery know to none
at this point.



>
>
> Hervey
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf
> of Allan Staller <allan.stal...@hcl.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 2:34 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98
>
> Non-symetric aliases? i.e. alias A in MCATA, but not in MCATB
>
> See message arc1220I RC=98 for explanation.
>
> Basically get down to one copy of the dataset (whether it is the migrated
> copy or the "real" dataset).
> This will resolve the issue.
>
> As to why, there are too many variables to spend a great deal of time
> speculating.
>
> HTH,
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Hervey Martinez
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 1:28 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98
>
> We have several datasets that show up in HSM's miglog file. I know the
> problem is that the file is not cataloged and is the reason for the error.
> My question is: What causes these files to become uncataloged?
>
> I've read a few other posts about the HSM address space being cancelled
> due to errors and causing this sort of error. We only recycle HSM during
> maintenance on the weekends and many of these errors happen during the week
> which does not coincide with the recycling of the HSM task.
>
> Any ideas?
>
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Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

2017-11-20 Thread Allan Staller
GDS=EXPIRED vs GDS=MIGRATE in the SMS management class?

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Subject: Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

Well, all files that I've seen are GDG files. This is very puzzling. There are 
a few of these errors that happen every so often but have no idea what is 
causing them.


Hervey



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Subject: Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

Non-symetric aliases? i.e. alias A in MCATA, but not in MCATB

See message arc1220I RC=98 for explanation.

Basically get down to one copy of the dataset (whether it is the migrated copy 
or the "real" dataset).
This will resolve the issue.

As to why, there are too many variables to spend a great deal of time 
speculating.

HTH,

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We have several datasets that show up in HSM's miglog file. I know the problem 
is that the file is not cataloged and is the reason for the error. My question 
is: What causes these files to become uncataloged?

I've read a few other posts about the HSM address space being cancelled due to 
errors and causing this sort of error. We only recycle HSM during maintenance 
on the weekends and many of these errors happen during the week which does not 
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Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

2017-11-20 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Hervey Martinez <hervey...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Well, all files that I've seen are GDG files. This is very puzzling. There
> are a few of these errors that happen every so often but have no idea what
> is causing them.
>

​Oh, I've had that problem. Look at the GDG base in the catalog. Make sure
that it says "SCRATCH". Otherwise the GDG data set entry will "roll off"
the GDG, but the data set will not be scratched from the volume. I had a
big problem with this when programmers were allowed to create their own
GDGs and they _never_ put the SCRATCH parameter on the DEFINE GDG. Why the
bleeding  IBM made the default NOSCRATCH is a mystery know to none
at this point.​



>
>
> Hervey
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf
> of Allan Staller <allan.stal...@hcl.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 2:34 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98
>
> Non-symetric aliases? i.e. alias A in MCATA, but not in MCATB
>
> See message arc1220I RC=98 for explanation.
>
> Basically get down to one copy of the dataset (whether it is the migrated
> copy or the "real" dataset).
> This will resolve the issue.
>
> As to why, there are too many variables to spend a great deal of time
> speculating.
>
> HTH,
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Hervey Martinez
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 1:28 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98
>
> We have several datasets that show up in HSM's miglog file. I know the
> problem is that the file is not cataloged and is the reason for the error.
> My question is: What causes these files to become uncataloged?
>
> I've read a few other posts about the HSM address space being cancelled
> due to errors and causing this sort of error. We only recycle HSM during
> maintenance on the weekends and many of these errors happen during the week
> which does not coincide with the recycling of the HSM task.
>
> Any ideas?
>
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Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

2017-11-20 Thread Hervey Martinez
Well, all files that I've seen are GDG files. This is very puzzling. There are 
a few of these errors that happen every so often but have no idea what is 
causing them.


Hervey



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Non-symetric aliases? i.e. alias A in MCATA, but not in MCATB

See message arc1220I RC=98 for explanation.

Basically get down to one copy of the dataset (whether it is the migrated copy 
or the "real" dataset).
This will resolve the issue.

As to why, there are too many variables to spend a great deal of time 
speculating.

HTH,

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We have several datasets that show up in HSM's miglog file. I know the problem 
is that the file is not cataloged and is the reason for the error. My question 
is: What causes these files to become uncataloged?

I've read a few other posts about the HSM address space being cancelled due to 
errors and causing this sort of error. We only recycle HSM during maintenance 
on the weekends and many of these errors happen during the week which does not 
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Re: ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

2017-11-20 Thread Allan Staller
Non-symetric aliases? i.e. alias A in MCATA, but not in MCATB

See message arc1220I RC=98 for explanation.

Basically get down to one copy of the dataset (whether it is the migrated copy 
or the "real" dataset).
This will resolve the issue.

As to why, there are too many variables to spend a great deal of time 
speculating.

HTH,

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We have several datasets that show up in HSM's miglog file. I know the problem 
is that the file is not cataloged and is the reason for the error. My question 
is: What causes these files to become uncataloged? 

I've read a few other posts about the HSM address space being cancelled due to 
errors and causing this sort of error. We only recycle HSM during maintenance 
on the weekends and many of these errors happen during the week which does not 
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ARC0734i rc=20 reason=98

2017-11-20 Thread Hervey Martinez
We have several datasets that show up in HSM's miglog file. I know the problem 
is that the file is not cataloged and is the reason for the error. My question 
is: What causes these files to become uncataloged? 

I've read a few other posts about the HSM address space being cancelled due to 
errors and causing this sort of error. We only recycle HSM during maintenance 
on the weekends and many of these errors happen during the week which does not 
coincide with the recycling of the HSM task.

Any ideas?

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