Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes
Still relevant for all non-SMS volumes. On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:42 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > It's still relevant if you're not using SMS. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Willy Jensen > Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 4:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD > Volumes > > Seems that the VATLSTxx parmlib member is still relevant. > > From the z/OS 2.5 MVS Initialization and Tuning Reference: > > The VATLSTxx member contains an optional VATDEF statement followed by > entries that define the mount > and use attributes of DASD volumes. > Use the VATDEF statement in VATLSTxx to specify a default use attribute. > If you do not specify VATDEF, > the system assigns a default of PUBLIC to those volumes that are not > specifically assigned a use attribute > in the VATLSTxx member or in a MOUNT command. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes
It's still relevant if you're not using SMS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Willy Jensen Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 4:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes Seems that the VATLSTxx parmlib member is still relevant. From the z/OS 2.5 MVS Initialization and Tuning Reference: The VATLSTxx member contains an optional VATDEF statement followed by entries that define the mount and use attributes of DASD volumes. Use the VATDEF statement in VATLSTxx to specify a default use attribute. If you do not specify VATDEF, the system assigns a default of PUBLIC to those volumes that are not specifically assigned a use attribute in the VATLSTxx member or in a MOUNT command. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes
Seems that the VATLSTxx parmlib member is still relevant. From the z/OS 2.5 MVS Initialization and Tuning Reference: The VATLSTxx member contains an optional VATDEF statement followed by entries that define the mount and use attributes of DASD volumes. Use the VATDEF statement in VATLSTxx to specify a default use attribute. If you do not specify VATDEF, the system assigns a default of PUBLIC to those volumes that are not specifically assigned a use attribute in the VATLSTxx member or in a MOUNT command. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes
I still use MOUNT commands on my zPDT z/OS 3.1 system to bring new volumes online, in flight. It would be similarly used, I think, if new DASD was made available on any system. Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Watkins Sent: 01 February 2024 17:46 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes Wow! I did not realize that this was still part of the system console command documentation. Thanks! Thanks to all that replied. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Mulder Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Texas Comptroller's email system. DO NOT click links or open attachments unless you expect them from the sender and know the content is safe. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=reference-mount-command Jim Mulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Watkins Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 11:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes Before MVS/XA and RAID DASD, offline DASD volumes (e.g. 3330, 3350 & 3380 units) had to be mounted instead of simply being varied online. The mount command used the volser of the offline DASD volume as a parameter. Does anyone remember the format of the mount command? Does anyone have the documentation in .pdf format? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes
Not quite. You could use a unit after the vary, but you needed the MOUNT command to assign volume attributes. SMS largely made that irrelevant. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Michael Watkins <032966e74d0f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 11:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes Before MVS/XA and RAID DASD, offline DASD volumes (e.g. 3330, 3350 & 3380 units) had to be mounted instead of simply being varied online. The mount command used the volser of the offline DASD volume as a parameter. Does anyone remember the format of the mount command? Does anyone have the documentation in .pdf format? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes
Wow! I did not realize that this was still part of the system console command documentation. Thanks! Thanks to all that replied. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Mulder Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Texas Comptroller's email system. DO NOT click links or open attachments unless you expect them from the sender and know the content is safe. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=reference-mount-command Jim Mulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Watkins Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 11:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes Before MVS/XA and RAID DASD, offline DASD volumes (e.g. 3330, 3350 & 3380 units) had to be mounted instead of simply being varied online. The mount command used the volser of the offline DASD volume as a parameter. Does anyone remember the format of the mount command? Does anyone have the documentation in .pdf format? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=reference-mount-command Jim Mulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Watkins Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 11:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes Before MVS/XA and RAID DASD, offline DASD volumes (e.g. 3330, 3350 & 3380 units) had to be mounted instead of simply being varied online. The mount command used the volser of the offline DASD volume as a parameter. Does anyone remember the format of the mount command? Does anyone have the documentation in .pdf format? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes
Hi Michael, M cuu,VOL=(SL,volser),USE=STORAGE (or PUBLIC, PRIVATE) Regards, David On 2024-02-01 11:42, Michael Watkins wrote: Before MVS/XA and RAID DASD, offline DASD volumes (e.g. 3330, 3350 & 3380 units) had to be mounted instead of simply being varied online. The mount command used the volser of the offline DASD volume as a parameter. Does anyone remember the format of the mount command? Does anyone have the documentation in .pdf format? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes
Thanks! Sorry if you took umbrage at 'antiquarian'; no offense intended.
Question: Was 'PRIVATE' the default value for the USE parameter?
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M addr,VOL=(SL,volser),USE={PUBLIC|PRIVATE|STORAGE}
There are those of us who use that command frequently when building not-current
versions of MVS...
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 10:44 AM Michael Watkins <
032966e74d0f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Before MVS/XA and RAID DASD, offline DASD volumes (e.g. 3330, 3350 &
> 3380
> units) had to be mounted instead of simply being varied online. The
> mount command used the volser of the offline DASD volume as a parameter.
>
> Does anyone remember the format of the mount command?
>
> Does anyone have the documentation in .pdf format?
>
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Re: Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes
M addr,VOL=(SL,volser),USE={PUBLIC|PRIVATE|STORAGE}
There are those of us who use that command frequently when building
not-current versions of MVS...
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 10:44 AM Michael Watkins <
032966e74d0f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Before MVS/XA and RAID DASD, offline DASD volumes (e.g. 3330, 3350 & 3380
> units) had to be mounted instead of simply being varied online. The mount
> command used the volser of the offline DASD volume as a parameter.
>
> Does anyone remember the format of the mount command?
>
> Does anyone have the documentation in .pdf format?
>
> --
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> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Antiquarian Curiosity: Pre-MVS/XA Mount Command for DASD Volumes
Before MVS/XA and RAID DASD, offline DASD volumes (e.g. 3330, 3350 & 3380 units) had to be mounted instead of simply being varied online. The mount command used the volser of the offline DASD volume as a parameter. Does anyone remember the format of the mount command? Does anyone have the documentation in .pdf format? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
